And that's what I thought you meant, but I'm not going to bother you any further.
Men and Women are aparantly not equal.
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And that's what I thought you meant, but I'm not going to bother you any further.
Personally, to say my argument is invalid is a bit loony. Did I say women can't murder and rape. Uhmm...no. But the reality is that men are statistically commit a higher percentage of violent crime.
But I don't expect a more logical answer from you, to be honest, judging from your past responses. And I'm just about done with this lousy forum.
See y'all.
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MikeyC
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We have a female Prime Minister at the moment. She's doing okay, but can she do better than a man? I don't think so.
I'm not even refuting that. Men do generally cause the worst crimes, but what we all don't like is casting an umbrella over every man in the world as potential murderers and rapists, even if that was not your intention.
But you can't hear me because you're "done" with this "lousy forum" anyway.
Britain had some powerful female rulers, such as Queen Elizabeth I, Queen Victoria, and Margaret Thatcher. These women are far from "peaceful" and "meek." In fact, Queen Victoria had almost conquered the world and expanded the British Empire to the largest it's ever been. Queen Elizabeth fought off the Spanish Armada and crushed revolts in Ireland. Margaret Thatcher, the "Iron Lady", was a staunch advocate of conservative policies.
Hilary Clinton ran for the presidency in 2008. Since then, she has been very outspoken against the authorities in Libya, Syria, Iran, China, Russia, and other countries. If she had become president instead of Barack Obama, I bet she would have taken more military action.
Opaline
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it just never stops does it?h:
Whoa, that is trippy. I like it.
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Hellhound
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JuiceB
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Equal but different. Yep, I agree.
Opaline
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MikeyC
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Particularly at groin height!
vj288
not actually Fiona Apple
It seems like scissors and rocks have a serious advantage in this format. *votes for rock in next election*
Flanscho
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He's plain crazy.
That being said: most of the different behaviors we see on men and women is not the result of them having different genders, but of them being treated differently by society, pushed into different roles, expectations and whatnot. Expectations created by a society everyone, including you, is part of, and has an impact on.
Opaline
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I disagree. While society does have gender roles, I think they exist anyway, without anyone having to push them. Perhaps not to the extreme we see in our own society, but they exist nonetheless. I think it has to do with hormones like estrogen and testosterone, as well as other biological differences between the sexes. Gender does not simply exist in the crotch and in a society's ideology - it exists in other ways, too. It is hardwired into us from birth. Men and women are different in ways other than what is between their legs, so I think it's silly to say gender roles are predominantly a construct of society.
I don't have a link at the moment (I'll see if I can find it), but there was a study done some years ago where children who were previously not exposed to any type of gender conditioning (girls like pink, boys like blue, girls like Barbies, boys like cars, etc.) were put in a room full of traditional "girls" and "boys" toys. There was one section with dolls and whatever else girls usually play with, and another with trucks and what boys usually play with. Well... you can probably guess the result. The girls all went for the "girly" toys and the boys went for the "boyish" toys.
Edit: Okay, I've done a web search and I see more recent studies showing that girls actually play with boy toys as well, but boys are less likely to play with girl toys. Hmmm, perhaps I have to rethink my position. I can't find the study that was done many years ago, so maybe it was biased? I guess I can't cite it anymore (especially if I can't even find it, haha). The whole gender role thing is still a matter of hot debate, so I'll keep an open mind.
Here's one of them: http://www.parentingscience.com/girl-toys-and-parenting.html
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There's a study to prove or disprove just about whatever you can think of, unfortunately, a byproduct of an insane and corrupt society of bull****ting white color fools, but I'm with you on biology, no matter what the studies say. Different physiologies, different experiences, differing outcomes, nature and nurture, 'equality' is the real social construct, a good and vital one in my opinion, one to strive for in terms of opportunity for all, but not to foolishly impose.
Back in the 60s and 70s, baby boys whose penises were too small were forced to undergo sex change to become a girl. Yes, doctors would truncate their penises to help these boys transition more "easily" to girlhood. However, the boys who had this forced upon them grew up very conflicted, disturbed, developed mental problems, and were very unsure of their gender. They never felt completely "female." Some of them committed suicide. Thank God doctors don't do this anymore.
^You're probably thinking of the phenomenon of 'ambiguous genitalia', which is rather more complex than a matter of small penis.
Ambiguous genitalia: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia
Ambiguous genitalia: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia