I am far superior to any woman
at writing my name with pee.
at writing my name with pee.
Men and Women are aparantly not equal.
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Oh it's on, now!
Do I really want to go there?
Do I really want to go there?
vj288
not actually Fiona Apple
There was a study some time ago about this guy who had his penis cut off (in infancy) during a botched circumcision, and then at the suggestion of a psychologist was had surgery reassigning his gender to have female parts, and was then raised as a girl. It worked ok during his early childhood, but as he grew older he was conflicted and didn't feel like a girl, and was never a "real" girl or felt like one.
Personally when it comes to gender, I do think nature has a much bigger role in the matter than nature and would have been hopeful as the psychologist who conducted this study was that it would work. Of course because it didn't work does not say gender is purely biological or biological at all. He may have been treated, inadvertently, like a male by his parents and others who knew he underwent the surgery influencing how he felt about himself (we tend to act how the world expects us to), or depending on how well the surgery worked he may have still appeared mannish or recognized he was not an authentic female biologically speaking. Based on studies like this though I do have to begrudgingly have to admit that it sounds convincing that biology does have some level influence over gender differences in society and the world.
Of course on the other side of this is anatomically male or female persons who identify as the opposite gender (sex vs. gender). Their accounts usually including feeling like they are trapped in the wrong body, and do not confirm to the gender roles assigned to them based on their sex whatsoever. I lean really strongly toward nurture, but it's likely somewhere in between with each being influencing factors.
Well, they could also just assume, what I like to call, the Sumo-Stance.
And then just skilfully readjust their footing..
..Like on of those machines that cut metal plates or a large scale printer.
Oh God. Mental images.
OceanMist
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I don't see why anyone should have to be okay with someone being president. This guy thinks gender matters in a leadership position such as a president, and has every right to believe that.
President is a very important position in our country. The best person should take that seat. If he believes the best candidate can't be a female, then he has a right to think that.
The president is involved in decisions that could mean this man's life. Is that really a time to call him sexist if he prefers a guy to protect him when his life is at stake?
President is a very important position in our country. The best person should take that seat. If he believes the best candidate can't be a female, then he has a right to think that.
The president is involved in decisions that could mean this man's life. Is that really a time to call him sexist if he prefers a guy to protect him when his life is at stake?
vj288
not actually Fiona Apple
Err, it is the definition of sexist, i.e. having the belief that one gender is superior to another. He does have every right to be a sexist when going to the voting booth of course. It's like not voting for Obama, because you would rather a white person to protect you than black. Extremely racist, but they do have the right to be racist I guess.
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OceanMist
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Saying that only a man can be president isn't saying men are superior to women.
It's just saying they prefer a man to that particular job.
I'd rather have a woman babysitting a kid rather than a man babysitting a kid. Am I saying women are superior to men?
There are plenty of jobs that women can do better than men. There are plenty of jobs that men do better than women.
It just so happens that president is one of the jobs that is more fit for a male.
MikeyC
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Our female Prime Minister would like a very, very stern word with you.
Opaline
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I have to agree here. This is why the whole leftist politically correct movement irks the living crap out of me. On the whole, some jobs are best left to men and some best left to women. Some behaviors are more often seen in men than in women and vice versa. It's one thing to say men and women are both equal in the sense that they are human beings and have a range of emotions and deserve respect, etc. and it's another to say they are completely the same on all levels, meaning a woman can do everything a man can and vice versa. I just can't agree.
People honestly think it's okay for women to be police officers, or fight in combat? I find that crazy.
I know this view makes people angry, but I'm not going to change it just to appease people. I firmly believe it.
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vj288
not actually Fiona Apple
Why do you prefer them to do the job though? I would assume, it would be because you think they would be better at the job, and hence superior at that job, based solely on gender. Using that quality to judge what qualifies them in your mind is sexist reasoning.
vj288
not actually Fiona Apple
It may be the case that some jobs are more suited for a specific gender based on our societies gender roles or whatever creates a divide in norms between men and women, but the problem I find with it is generalizing it. When looking to hire someone each candidate should be looked at individually, and not as a part of a group (e.g. being male or female). There may be a job that, in general, is better completed by males rather than females, but that doesn't mean there isn't a female who could do it way better than most men as well.
Really? That sort of seems crazy to me. If a women was up to the task physically I don;t see why she couldn't do the job well.
MikeyC
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I strongly disagree. I work in a police station and a lot of the women in there have more courage and guts than I do. I could never do their job.
EDIT: Vj = :applause:
Flanscho
Well-known member
Of course it's sexist if you say that president is not a womans job. Do you require a moustache to be president? Or hair on your butt? Do you need to have large hands?
Being a president is about ones knowledge, opinions, experiences and what not. It's a about your cognitive skills. The gender is irrelevant for that job.
Of course you have the right to be sexist. Same as you have the right to be racist. But that's definately nothing to be proud of.
Being a president is about ones knowledge, opinions, experiences and what not. It's a about your cognitive skills. The gender is irrelevant for that job.
Of course you have the right to be sexist. Same as you have the right to be racist. But that's definately nothing to be proud of.
I'm sure that the women in the police force and military are physically more fit and trained than 99% of the civilian population.
Yes, exactly. I don't see why people can't recognize the individual rather then gender.
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The subject of gender is only important because we made it important.
From birth men and women are subjected to segregated things. The boy is dressed in blue and gets a firetruck, while the girl is dressed in pink and gets a princess doll. This is even before we've learned anything. That segregation is the very foundation we build our experiences and personalities on. It's quite messed up if you think about it..
If there's a gap between genders then it's because we forced subcultural rules and standards upon each. Not because either one is superior genetically.
Mental capacity might be decided by genetics, but what people do with that capacity is decided by events that occur in their lifetime. Sure, it may occur that more men like cars then women do, but I honestly believe that's to blame to the birth-segregation I mentioned earlier.
However, when that birth segregation doesn't occur, or less so, you'll see that men and women are very much blank slates capable of many of the same things. A women could be drawn towards building motorcycles, and a man may find solace in fashion design.
And even when this occurs, I've seen it happen countless of times, much of their surrounding environment will try to shove them back into their gender roles. The guys in this thread claiming women wouldn't make good leaders just because their women, is a good example of just this. There's no evidence that they make bad leaders, but yet many seem very convinced. That's comfort and personal preference talking, not facts.
You know how many times I've been called out for liking My Little Pony as a guy? Every time it's mentioned. You know how many times I've been called out for admitting I like the Ferrari Enzo as a guy? NEVER. Not once. Not by anyone. Neither are important to anyone but me, but the attitude towards each is extremely different. Just because I'm a guy. This goes vice versa for the opposite gender.
Whom is to say that the person trying to get in position of power isn't one of these gender unbiased people with unique character traits and strengths? Judge the person and their qualities, not the gender. Breasts and penises tell you very little.
My point is; don't treat people, no matter what gender, as these simple prefabricated husks. The brain is endlessly complicated, as is it's development.
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