Men and Women are aparantly not equal.

[JackOfSpades]

Well, yes I concede correlation, but not that the tenancies are caused solely by their anatomic state, or possibly at all. I do agree with some of what Opaline has said, and is making valid and acceptable points. I just don't think gender(or the more accurate term I should be using is "sex") alone is an important distinction between two people. Aggressiveness, or that "killer instinct" may be an important quality to some come election time. When looking at the two candidates, deciding whether or not they have a killer instinct could take into consideration their genders tenancies, but when it comes down to it, it looking at whether or not they have the quality. Lot's of women do have it, and lot's of men don't (I don't). Saying because she's a women she doesn't have the quality, that's a bad generalization in my opinion. That's all I was trying to say, that being a man or women is not the cause of having the quality.

Yes, but youre assuming youre going to be able to "know" or "see" this quality or others. And I'm not just talking about a very public hiring like an election, but private ones too, as is the case with babysitters, animal care workers, whatever the case may be. There's a lot one has to assume and take on good faith, and there is a lot you simply cannot and will not know. And gender breaks some of those ties, in a lot of real world applications.

And you refer to anatomy, and used the term "between their legs". It's not my opinion that those have anything to do with what were talking about. Were talking about thoughts and decisions and inclinations. And that has everything to do with brains, neurology and those things. Which I believe to be different, again, generally speaking.

 

[vj288]

Yes, but youre assuming youre going to be able to "know" or "see" this quality or others. And I'm not just talking about a very public hiring like an election, but private ones to as is the case with babysitters, animal care workers, whatever the case may be. There's a lot one has to assume and take on good faith, and there are a lot you simply cannot and will not know. And gender breaks some of those ties, in a lot of real world applications.

Well, people are free to do that if they wish. It's fair to consider patterns of behavior when all else is tied. Not considering males for a baby-sitting job at all is something completely different though. I think we can get some sort of feel for some of these things upon meeting, maybe through an interview. References, past jobs. You would want to know as much about someone handling your child you could.

And you refer to anatomy, and used the term "between their legs". It's not my opinion that those have anything to do with what were talking about. Were talking about thoughts and decisions and inclinations. And that has everything to do with brains, nuerology and those things. Which I believe to be different, again, generally speaking.

In saying those things I mean being male or female biologically. That being a male is somehow inherently different than being a female. I'm not saying it has nothing to do with the brain, this whole discussion is about how people think. I'm not saying a penis makes one aggressive, that just seems silly and I obviously know that's not what people are arguing. "I have no vagina? PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE" Or, actually, Frued would argue the other way around, girls and their penis envy

 

[Hellhound]

You know how many times I've been called out for liking My Little Pony as a guy? Every time it's mentioned. You know how many times I've been called out for admitting I like the Ferrari Enzo as a guy? NEVER. Not once. Not by anyone. Neither are important to anyone but me, but the attitude towards each is extremely different. Just because I'm a guy. This goes vice versa for the opposite gender.

My mate told me that some classmates have asked him if he's gay because he likes My little pony.

Some dudes (even girls) have given me weird looks because I like video games and I don't act or dress feminine.

 

[BlackPuma]

My mate told me that some classmates have asked him if he's gay because he likes My little pony.

Which is really quite odd considering the cast is about 80% female. It's funny how people consider a pin-up calendar manly, but a show that features, frankly, interesting female characters as being gay or weird.

Some dudes (even girls) have given me weird looks because I like video games and I don't act or dress feminine.

This behaviour bothers me for several reasons. The first one being that people/women are being guilt tripped and made feel uncomfortable in participating in one of the most immersive ways of entering a world of fantasy. Some even denying themselves the pleasure of doing so.

The second is gamers ruining their own industry. I for would love to see a stronger influence from females in games. Particularly in making female characters realistic and interesting (which would undoubtedly happen if girls and women were undeniably socially accepted in the gamers demographic). Most female main characters seem to merely be there to be sexy. Which annoys me to no end because it hurts the game as a art form. It becomes softcore with a story.

With a few exceptions to the rule, of course. Chell from Portal, Alyx Vance from Half-Life, Princess Zelda from The Legend of Zelda and Heather from Silent Hill 3. To name a few.

And the last one being people not being allowed to act/dress in a manner that makes them comfortable. And I totally get what you mean by that. Before I shave my head, I was constantly berated for having long hair. I can't stand it when people expect others to sacrifice comfort to meet their bigot social standards.

 

[Hellhound]

Before I shave my head, I was constantly berated for having long hair. I can't stand it when people expect others to sacrifice comfort to meet their bigot social standards.

I find long hair to be extremely epic.

 

[coyote]

i don't know why anyone would question the sexuality of an adult male who was a fan of My Little Pony...

 

[Opaline]

i don't know why anyone would question the sexuality of an adult male who was a fan of My Little Pony...

Because society has conditioned us to believe My Little Pony is only for girls. I mean, if it wasn't for this conditioning, you wouldn't see anything overtly feminine about it. Right?

...I am obviously being sarcastic. I wonder if you showed it to a culture that didn't have this supposed conditioning... if they wouldn't find it neutral, or feminine as well? I doubt they'd find it particularly masculine though, haha.

 

[AGR]

Cant belive no one posted this yet:
Kindergarten Cop "Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina" - YouTube

 

[Hellhound]

^ Lmao. I love that movie.

 

[Hellhound]

This should be relevant.

Funny condom advert - YouTube

 

[MikeyC]

^ Lmao. I love that movie.

It's naht a toomah.

This should be relevant.

I don't even know what the hell that was. :lol:

 

[BlackPuma]

Because society has conditioned us to believe My Little Pony is only for girls. I mean, if it wasn't for this conditioning, you wouldn't see anything overtly feminine about it. Right?

I don't think it is. The toyline and first few incarnations of the show maybe, but not the latest show. It was designed to be enjoyed by kids- and their parents, after all. It's not much more ''feminine'' then any other cartoon in my opinion.

(If feminine meant ''obnoxiously cutesy filled with princesses, unbalanced vivid colours, characters that cronically smile in a scary fashion all the while singing songs that are so corny that they're a crime to music itself.)