Do you believe in God?

I think many people have wished this. I would say most never get the results they're waiting for. I wished the same thing. Then I sort of just said, "Whatever, this isn't making any sense. Why would it have to be such a mind game?" and proceeded to let it go for the most part.

Life is a mystery.

I'm not sure about evolution, to be honest - I'm not saying I deny it, but I'm not saying I buy every bit of it, either. I think we may have gotten a lot right in that department, but I also have the suspicion that we're wrong on some accounts, and that the truth is something far more complex, or at least different.

But, just my thoughts on the matter. Really, who knows. I can't help but laugh at people who swear by anything at all - whether it be God or evolution or something else - because I just don't think we know enough. Even about evolution. I don't think it can be said with certainty that our current scientific narrative is completely accurate. I suspect a lot of it is misinterpretation......

Ah, life.

Nicely put. I have my beliefs, as does everyone else. And they are just that: beliefs. They cannot be proven or disproven. I wish that everyone could believe what they wanted to believe without being ridiculed, persecuted, etc. etc. I may not agree with others' beliefs, but I respect your right to have them. Just don't shove them down my throat or tell me that I'm going to burn in hell because I don't share your beliefs. I don't know how many people (family included) who have told me I am going to hell for not believing in god. To be fair, I have played my part in it, too; I have been known to egg people on.

I guess my one wish for society is that everyone could believe what they want and we can all accept those differences and move on. Do we all have to agree and get along? Really? 'Cause that's hard. (That's what she said!)

As with everything else in my life, this reminds me of a 30 Rock quote between Liz and her date Steven. Emphasis is mine.

Liz: I truly don't like you as a person. [inspirational music starts playing] Can't one human being not like another human being? Can't we all just not get along?
Steven: Liz, I wish it could be like that... and maybe someday our children or our children's children will hate each other like that, but it just doesn't work that way today.
Liz: So what you're saying is that any woman that doesn't like you is a racist.
Steven: No, no, no, no, no. [music stops] Some women are gay.

Ah, this post went nowhere fast. Just ignore me. I'm having a hard time forming coherent thoughts today.
 

N0D

Banned
lately not only do i not believe in anything of the sort, but it even...i guess i'm basically bothered that so many other people believe in this sort of thing. i'm not sure why this is but it is really problematic because since i have little to no interaction with people it's not like i can do anything about it, and even if i could i'm not sure i would because although i don't want them to believe in such things i'm not sure i have any right to try and convince them not to. also whenever i do end up interacting with a person who believes in something of this sort and the subject comes up i unintentionally end up offending them or being quite rude, mostly unintentionally.

basically can everyone do me a favor and not believe in anything of this sort? i would sleep much better.
 

Hellhound

Super Moderator
I believe in God, and I believe he's trolling us all.

No, I don't believe he will cure me, because there's a high chance that he might be unexistant. Therapy and support will probably make things a bit less painful. Daring to face my fears will help a lot as well. If you want to get better, you have to actually do something to get better. No one, not even God will do things for you.
 

NathanielWingatePeaslee

Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!
Staff member
A cartoon ridiculing the fat, hairy, crazy atheists? Lovely. Now we just need an atheist to post a cartoon ridiculing the fat, hairy, crazy Christians and this will be a real grown-up thread. :rolleyes:
 

nilledepp

New member
No, I don't believe in God... but I'm facinated by Norse mythology. I'm not a forn sidr either. But I believe in theosophy, reincarnation and stuff like that:)

A cartoon ridiculing the fat, hairy, crazy atheists? Lovely. Now we just need an atheist to post a cartoon ridiculing the fat, hairy, crazy Christians and this will be a real grown-up thread. :rolleyes:

haha, sooooo true..
 

N0D

Banned
i wasn't trolling, and i'm not fat and hairy. and that cartoon is hypocritical, if you were interested in intelligent debate you would respond with words not offensive cartoons. Also, why do people think that religion is the cause for lots of charity and for people being good people? Can't people just be decent people and help others? Do you really need an imaginary friend to remind you to be a good person?
 

Mickery

Well-known member
Stephen Roberts said:
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

I thought that was particularly neatly worded. Is there a principle difference between disbelief in all gods and disbelief in all except one?
 

Shant

Well-known member
I think I'm about to more or less take a Deist stance on this - that there is a higher power, a creator, but has no influence in this world at this moment. Maybe a "Christian Deist", maybe.

I can't shake off the feeling that there is a higher power, and that this higher power by definition could be the only thing to create the universe. However, the fact that bad things continue to go on and how none of my prayers ever help anything, would leave me considering that [this hypothetical] God doesn't do anything.

They do call it "free will" for a reason, anyways.
 
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