Do you believe in God?

[coyote]

your assuming that everything that heppens is ment to happen, that there is not accidents, again that is a common mistake. Im not saying its wrong but to just assume it is kind of illogical

your mistake is making the assumption that I'm trying to be logical

or that the nature of the universe is logical

or can be explained with words

 

[Kiwong]

first of all, no, thats not the argument that I was refering to. Also francis creek the person who descovered DNA said that (using his estimation) the chance of life just happening due to random chemecal reactions is one in (the number of atoms in the universe)

Because the chances are high this is not evidence to suggest the existance of intelligent design/or an intelligent designer. That is matter of faith not science.

I've formed my opinion on these issues, many, many years ago. Based on reading the work of Michael Archer.

Archer, Michael. 1988. Squaring off Against Evolution; the Creationist Challenge. Confronting Creationism; Defending Darwin, Selkirk, D. R., and Burrows, F. J., eds. New South Wales University Press, Kensington, New South Wales, Australia, pp. 103-143.

 

[Rembrandt Broam]

you chose to be here, no one forced you. dont try to analyz what I said, it will take a LONG TIME to show you

None of us chose to be here, although it's true to say that we choose whether or not to remain here.

 

[coyote]

we are ment to try to find out. Its human curiosity. part of the human experience is the element of confusion that he have to overcome. It is one of the things we must do

i missed that chapter in the rule book

 

[Beatrice]

you chose to be here, no one forced you. dont try to analyz what I said, it will take a LONG TIME to show you

I chose to be here...... Right. Well if that's the case, I think I'm going to choose not to any more. Oh wait, I really can do that! But for some reason it's so damn hard. And everyone urges me not to! Hmm.

If I had chosen to be here I would have been out of my mind at the time, because I wouldn't have if I knew my life would be like this.

 

[Rembrandt Broam]

i missed that chapter in the rule book

You and your rule book. You're always losing your copy.

I'm buying you the Kindle ebook version.

 

[Kiwong]

But people into science and stuff are all about being "creatures of reason." They go around spouting about belief being inferior and stuff and then go ahead and give into biology.

They're not about suggesting belief is inferior, they are concerned with belief being confused as science.

 

[Rembrandt Broam]

just because you dont remember that doesnt mean you didnt choose, when you chose you didnt have any nurons to store the memory in

If I didn't have any neurons, then it can't have been a very well informed choice. I like to use my neurons in all my decision making processes.

 

[coyote]

and I never said it can be explained with words, but it can be explained to a human being

it can be experienced directly, but not explained to you by someone else

just curious - how else would you explain it to a human without using words?

 

[Rembrandt Broam]

your assuming that all logical and good dicisions are made when you have a physicall brain, you have absolutly no way to say that you cant make a good decision without a physicall brain

If I don't have a physical brain, what exactly is making the decision?

 

[Lea]

If someone asks you this question, ask: "What do you mean by God", because everyone understands by "God" something else, so this discussion seems to me quite pointless..

 

[Pookah]

i think you have me confused with someone else

The question was directed less at you and more at "hardline atheism arguements."

 

[coyote]

If someone asks you this question, ask: "What do you mean by God", because everyone understands by "God" something else, so this discussion seems to me quite pointless..

i totally agree

but then again, pointless discussions are my favorite kind

 

[MrJones]

If someone asks you this question, ask: "What do you mean by God", because everyone understands by "God" something else, so this discussion seems to me quite pointless..

I'm searching for a "Like" button, but I can't find it

 

[Pookah]

Well apart from the fact that making babies is fun isn't it better to be alive even for a brief time before being wiped from existence, rather than never existing in the first place?

I would rather have never been put in the position to lament life. To be made fearful.

you chose to be here, no one forced you. dont try to analyz what I said, it will take a LONG TIME to show you

Sorry I don't believe that at all, its fine if you do, but I do not and hence I am not comforted.

 

[coyote]

I'm searching for a "Like" button, but I can't find it

 

[MrJones]

no, like 90% of people think of intelligent omnipresent and omipitant creature with a plan

and people are killing each other for little differences of the same "God" idea...

 

[MrJones]

It's not working, but thanks XD

 

[Pookah]

just because you dont realize it right now doenst mean youl never believe it

Whatever you say, dude.

However I am forced to act on my current state of mind.

 

[Patrick26]

Nope i don't and i'm sick and tired of people blaming god for why the things happen the way they do.