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Ithior

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It's weird how some people are so casual about detailed rape scenes in Game of Thrones as just a way to establish who the bad guys are, and so confused about why some women find it unnerving. I'm pretty sure all the men who secretly look up to Tyrion a little bit would be unnerved if he was bent over twice a season and violently raped in order to establish who his enemies are and who sympathizes with him, especially if the topic was never touched between scenes.

I think the scene wasn't out of the blue, it made sense. It wasn't meant to show who her enemies were, we already knew that. It's about the whole relationship between the 3 characters in that scene. And I certainly didn't see anyone complaining about Reek getting his sausage cut off.
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
It doesn't matter anymore these days.

Nothing goes right anymore. I will never get what I want. It may seem it will get that way. Maybe just at some point then it all ends. I'll always be a failure and dissappointed, sad, a loser, lonely, depressed, messed up... All there is in the negative world.

No matter how positive I am.

Yep! That's how ah feel as well. :sad:
 
It's weird how some people are so casual about detailed rape scenes in Game of Thrones as just a way to establish who the bad guys are, and so confused about why some women find it unnerving. I'm pretty sure all the men who secretly look up to Tyrion a little bit would be unnerved if he was bent over twice a season and violently raped in order to establish who his enemies are and who sympathizes with him, especially if the topic was never touched between scenes.

People actually think that's the reason it happens? Ugh.

I don't get the impression that it's used to emphasize bad guys at all. The previous time it happened was with a character who was- and is now, on pretty neutral grounds as far as actions go. I feel it's more a case of it depicting the period by which the universe/lore was inspired uninhibitedly. Or at least, as much as television restrictions allow.

My friend and me both found the scene in question incredibly hard to watch.

When I first read Argentum's post I thought, people actually argue that the enormous amount of sexual violence against women in Game of Thrones is simply to show who is villainous? Then I realized what you've said Pug, that it's somewhat historically accurate. But at the same time, GoT is fiction, and doesn't actually depict any sort of actual history - although it's supposed to parallel the Middle Ages... I guess.

And so saying, I think it's kind of bullshit. I think they do it because a lot of people do actually like rape scenes and they get off on it (figuratively, although I don't doubt some literally as well). Or just pure shock value, which always works. But there is a lot of torture of men too, which I noticed doesn't seem to happen as much to women. Women are raped or outright killed, men are systematically tortured or killed, both horrific and degrading, so... maybe it evens out in the end.

:thinking:

Personally I don't get the feeling rape depictions are for the sake of adhering to fantasies of such nature. To my recollection they've always been depicted as vile unforgivable acts. I really do believe those scenes exist to shock as much as any other sort of depicted violence and pain.

Of course, viewers can interpret it as titillation, but that's the case with everything. I'm pretty sure there's a few sick puppies out there that used said torture scenes as titillation as well.
 
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Argentum

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I think the scene wasn't out of the blue, it made sense. It wasn't meant to show who her enemies were, we already knew that. It's about the whole relationship between the 3 characters in that scene. And I certainly didn't see anyone complaining about Reek getting his sausage cut off.

I was referring to one of the other dozen or more scenes of sexual violence.

People actually think that's the reason it happens? Ugh.

I don't get the impression that it's used to emphasize bad guys at all. The previous time it happened was with a character who was- and is now, on pretty neutral grounds as far as actions go. I feel it's more a case of it depicting the period by which the universe/lore was inspired uninhibitedly. Or at least, as much as television restrictions allow.

My friend and me both found the scene in question incredibly hard to watch.

My problem is that Game of Thrones wants to have its cake and eat it, too, and that many seem in the dark about why this could bother anyone who doesn't simply misunderstand the show. It wants women viewers to be drawn in by characterization and like the characters, but it doesn't want to take the time to actually handle visceral and emotional scenes that can disconnect them. So it loses them, either in spirit or completely when they stop tuning in. It's made and defended by men who can't imagine how rape is any different from murder on television and why some viewers would feel cheated if it was casually added for drama and hand-waved away as not something that affects a character's arc, even when there's two minutes of a woman screaming and sobbing hysterically.

Historical accuracy is just an excuse. Most of the boring medieval life, which included more than the rape of adults and women, is left out or embellished because it's not suitable for an audience or a story. Historical accuracy also doesn't require it on a regular basis or in such great detail.
 
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MollyBeGood

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GoT the one guy gets his penis mutated, right, he is turned into a eunuch..that seems pretty violent against men. That scene was really hard to watch for me. Rape has been always used in war to assimilate into the culture that is over thrown. This making the next generation part of the victors bloodline.
 
My problem is that Game of Thrones wants to have its cake and eat it, too, and that many seem in the dark about why this could bother anyone who doesn't simply misunderstand the show. It wants women viewers to be drawn in by characterization and like the characters, but it doesn't want to take the time to actually handle visceral and emotional scenes that can disconnect them. So it loses them, either in spirit or completely when they stop tuning in. It's made and defended by men who can't imagine how rape is any different from murder on television and why some viewers would feel cheated if it was casually added for drama and hand-waved away as not something that affects a character's arc, even when there's two minutes of a woman screaming and sobbing hysterically.

Historical accuracy is just an excuse. Most of the boring medieval life, which included more than the rape of adults and women, is left out or embellished because it's not suitable for an audience or a story. Historical accuracy also doesn't require it on a regular basis or in such great detail.

I think most people understand the difference between scenes involving murder and scenes involving sexual violence on television. And also how even though both acts (in actuality) are horrible, considering what the general audience is accustomed to on TV, one can act as a much stronger trigger or disturbance than the other.

However, I agree that considering the sensitivity of the real world issue there are too many depictions of sexual violence in the show. Especially considering some of the scenes were consensual in the source material. It's unnecessary. However, that said, I also don't think they should have been excluded all together. I'm not saying you implied that they should - but just for the record.

But I don't quite agree with that rape scenes are overly elaborate in visual depiction and psychological implication compared to some of the others we have seen so far. Objectively speaking, they're pretty much on par.
 

Steiner

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Interesting day. Perhaps a new job at the prison, not sure. Have to turn in this load of paperwork they gave.
 

Steiner

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What kind of position would you get at the prison were you to get hired?

Jailer, I did a drug test and have to undergo some training and other tests. Not really sure if that means I'm in or not. Interview went alright I think. Got to take a walk through the prison some. Felt like a school field trip.
 
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squidgee

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Seriously, how do people stand on buses and remain stable? Everytime I find myself standing on a bus, I have to keep shifting my feet and exert so much concentration on holding onto the bars and keeping balance. And then I see others who aren't holding onto anything and calmly reading a book and standing up perfectly fine.

Also why do buses accelerate and decelerate so fast?! I swear I keep thinking they're going to crash into the car in front.
 
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https://xkcd.com/radiation/
 

Phoenixx

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Seriously, how do people stand on buses and remain stable? Everytime I find myself standing on a bus, I have to keep shifting my feet and exert so much concentration on holding onto the bars and keeping balance. And then I see others who aren't holding onto anything and calmly reading a book and standing up perfectly fine.

Also why do buses accelerate and decelerate so fast?! I swear I keep thinking they're going to crash into the car in front.
^ I know exactly what you mean. I moved to the city at the end of last summer and had never rode a public bus before. When I have to stand, I end up gripping the handle bar straps so much my knuckles are white. I constantly have to shift my feet too to keep balance when the bus stops and starts again. Some bus drivers are worse than others, and some are decent enough to not accelerate or stop so quickly so you can actually walk to the front of the bus to get off.
 
Jailer, I did a drug test and have to undergo some training and other tests. Not really sure if that means I'm in or not. Interview went alright I think. Got to take a walk through the prison some. Felt like a school field trip.

That sounds like a pretty interesting job. I hope you get it.
 

MollyBeGood

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I love the fact that when you get older things you used to care about you no longer give a sh$t about. God, that is so freeing!
 
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