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Lea

Banned
Hmm I think there's a perfectly good explanation as to why that happens to you (and I mean not something as vague as the way you come across, but something like something you wear, some behaviour/habit you have that you don't really notice but makes others uncomfortable,... I don't know).

If I knew you IRL I could probably be able to spot those potential problems, it's always easier to observe others than to observe oneself. Sorry I couldn't be of much help.

I don´t think I stink, I shower twice a day, wear clean clothes, comb my hair. I am just too shy and quiet, and probably look dumb because of it. I am too closed off. I can talk a lot if I get into a talk with someone, was even told I am intelligent. But except of it I think there is some autistic aura around me. Something deadly silent. I am just not the loud cheerful type who likes to socialize and is instantly at home everywhere, who coments on everything, smiles, creates contacts, bonds with other people. Who is mature, has family, kids, job. I always prefer to be in my room when in a sharehouse, instead of the common area. It´s not that I don´t try enough, it´s simply not natural to me. Most importantly I can´t make eye contact properly and smile, although I am always nice and polite. I think it´s the fact that when people are joking and laughing, I am deadly silent, which means I don´t create the bond required with them, and it probably seems rude or aloof to them, although I am not like this in order to be rude. Same with difficulty in smiling back at people when they smile at me, or eye contact difficulty. I am quite sure that what I described above is the reason for my dismissals.
 
Wooooowwwwww, went to a local restaurant to get some fish and chips and I am never going again. It's too bad because the food was good and really cheaply priced - and fish plates can be expensive - but the lady was incredibly rude. Barked at me, gave me attitude. I was so polite to her, too. I didn't have the balls to say anything, although I debated it in my head, but... fear won out. I considered telling her I changed my mind due to her rudeness, but didn't have the guts :(

Maybe she was having a bad day, but I don't expect all smiles. A little courtesy and not overt rudeness - that's just unacceptable. To Yelp I go! :p
 

Ithior

Well-known member
If at any point you think that what I'm suggesting doesn't really help you, just skip to the end, no need to force yourself through my usual walls of text.


First of all, I wasn't implying that you were careless about your appearance, I was talking about other sorts of things. For example, I know that my sister (20 years old) probably doesn't get jobs because she dresses a bit like a hippie/hipster. She showers, her clothes are clean, she doesn't do drugs or anything. It's just her style, it just doesn't look like what you're used to see girls wearing. For example, until not long ago she didn't even wear jeans. I believe her style mis the main thing stopping her from getting a job.

I am too closed off. I can talk a lot if I get into a talk with someone, was even told I am intelligent. But except of it I think there is some autistic aura around me. Something deadly silent. I am just not the loud cheerful type who likes to socialize and is instantly at home everywhere, who coments on everything, smiles, creates contacts, bonds with other people. Who is mature, has family, kids, job. I always prefer to be in my room when in a sharehouse, instead of the common area. It´s not that I don´t try enough, it´s simply not natural to me.

Well I didn't understand if you are saying you're mature, have a family, kids and a job or that you don't, but I relate to everything else (and if you're saying you don't, then I relate to everything).

Most importantly I can´t make eye contact properly and smile, although I am always nice and polite. I think it´s the fact that when people are joking and laughing, I am deadly silent, which means I don´t create the bond required with them, and it probably seems rude or aloof to them, although I am not like this in order to be rude.

I think I have an unusually high amount of them given the standards for people in this forum; they're not that many (maybe 20 altogether?) and I'm not very close to any of them when it comes to sharing my feelings. When I'm around them (or most of them), I'm very quiet. If I'm around my uncles or people I just met, then I'm deadly silent too. Still, when I'm around those people I listen to what they're saying and laugh at their jokes and keep eye contact every now and then. In my experience this has been enough to only come across as shy and not rude.

Same with difficulty in smiling back at people when they smile at me, or eye contact difficulty. I am quite sure that what I described above is the reason for my dismissals.

I have to say that smiling back at people is one of the things that I can do very easily. If someone smiles at me, I feel like that person noticed me and remembers me, so I was at least worthy enough of not being forgotten. I don't know why but it makes me a bit happy (enough to make me smile) that they remember the guy that barely spoke. If it's someone I knew for longer, it makes me happy because they didn't ignore me or avoided me, I'm important enough for them to spend a few seconds or minutes just doing small talk.
Sometimes when people smile at me during conversations I just smile back at them, I don't really know why that happens. Anyway, I think having a positive attitude towards the reason the person might have to be smiling at you can be helpful.

When it comes to eye contact it's a bit different. I have the tendency to look at people's mouth when they're talking. Still, when this happens I tell myself to pay attention to the eyes. I'm guessing this isn't exactly your problem, but a similar approach might work. When you find yourself avoiding eye contact, try to look at the person's eye for a couple of seconds before looking away again. You're not supposed to keep staring at the person through the whole conversation anyway. Just don't make it way too short.



I'm not sure I'm addressing the real issues behind your problems. Could you tell me which disorder(s) you might have? I think that can help me understand you a bit better.
 

Rawz

Well-known member
It seems like every one around me, except maybe my sister, is moving forward in life, while I continue to stay where I am. I feel like I am stuck in my current situation and can't get out. Any progress I am making feels too small and slow. And whenever I have a good week or month and do good--sleep better, have more energy, start taking charge with work, money, etc--I soon crash and am right back to where I was.

I'm 20 years old but am not as smart as most, and not as responsible/competent. I want to be able to handle life, take charge, and start moving forward, but it doesn't seem possible. *sigh*
 

GhastlyCC

Well-known member
It seems like every one around me, except maybe my sister, is moving forward in life, while I continue to stay where I am. I feel like I am stuck in my current situation and can't get out. Any progress I am making feels too small and slow. And whenever I have a good week or month and do good--sleep better, have more energy, start taking charge with work, money, etc--I soon crash and am right back to where I was.

I'm 20 years old but am not as smart as most, and not as responsible/competent. I want to be able to handle life, take charge, and start moving forward, but it doesn't seem possible. *sigh*
I feel exactly the same way.
But don't take anything away from the things you have done.
No matter how small.
Small/steady steps are better than no steps at all.

There's plenty people your age and older who are doing absolutely nothing.
You're doing better than them.
 
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Lamb

Well-known member
Been getting headaches lately on my right temple. I'm prone to getting tension headaches behind my head near my neck. It especially happens if I smile or laugh too long or too intensely.. This is new though. Is this another version of a tension headache? Ugh.
 

Lamb

Well-known member
Wooooowwwwww, went to a local restaurant to get some fish and chips and I am never going again. It's too bad because the food was good and really cheaply priced - and fish plates can be expensive - but the lady was incredibly rude. Barked at me, gave me attitude. I was so polite to her, too. I didn't have the balls to say anything, although I debated it in my head, but... fear won out. I considered telling her I changed my mind due to her rudeness, but didn't have the guts :(

Maybe she was having a bad day, but I don't expect all smiles. A little courtesy and not overt rudeness - that's just unacceptable. To Yelp I go! :p

Opaline, are you sure you want to give up those fish and chips? Decently priced is a hard find.
 

Lea

Banned
Anyway, I think having a positive attitude towards the reason the person might have to be smiling at you can be helpful.

I don´t think so. You say you have no difficulty smiling, so probably you won´t understand why I do. I am on the autism spectrum, but that said I was smiling normally until my teenage.
 

Ithior

Well-known member
I don´t think so. You say you have no difficulty smiling, so probably you won´t understand why I do. I am on the autism spectrum, but that said I was smiling normally until my teenage.

I don't think I can be of much help to you then... I don't know anyone IRL with any sort of mental condition (be it social anxiety, autism, etc) so I can only use myself to understand how people with similar problems behave and how they feel. On this forum I can probably give some help to people with Avoidant Personality Disorder, even though I think I only have some traits of it and not an actual disorder.

That said, I think you could try to ask for an explanation as to why you were fired to a previous employer. If your last job was a long time ago and they don't remember you, then you could try to get a new one. If nothing goes wrong, you'll keep your job. If you end up getting fired again, you have a chance to find out what exactly is making these people fire you.

I'm sorry if I've been bothering you with all these questions and all this conversation, I just thought that maybe I could help. I don't like seeing people saying they're not good for anything, but I feel bad for not being able to help.
 

Lea

Banned
That said, I think you could try to ask for an explanation as to why you were fired to a previous employer. If your last job was a long time ago and they don't remember you, then you could try to get a new one. If nothing goes wrong, you'll keep your job. If you end up getting fired again, you have a chance to find out what exactly is making these people fire you.

I have asked all employers, of course. Do you think I would go apply to the same company after they fired me, and hope that they won´t remember me? :) And do you think I would like to? If I needed to try again, I would just pick some other employer, it´s everywhere the same **** anyway.
And I am not interested in going through experiences just in order to find out why they fire me, because by now I had loads of them and it is more than clear to me.

Thank you for talking to me and trying to help anyway, it´s appreciated :).
 

Hellhound

Super Moderator
There's something I've wanted to say here, but the topic is rather touchy, as it involves the whole "nice guys" thing...

It's just an opinion based on personal experiences, but I don't wish to cause a mass outrage that leads in heated arguments and the thread getting closed, and then be known as the one who caused trouble.

Hmm... what to do, what to do...
 

Hellhound

Super Moderator
Wooooowwwwww, went to a local restaurant to get some fish and chips and I am never going again. It's too bad because the food was good and really cheaply priced - and fish plates can be expensive - but the lady was incredibly rude. Barked at me, gave me attitude. I was so polite to her, too. I didn't have the balls to say anything, although I debated it in my head, but... fear won out. I considered telling her I changed my mind due to her rudeness, but didn't have the guts :(

Maybe she was having a bad day, but I don't expect all smiles. A little courtesy and not overt rudeness - that's just unacceptable. To Yelp I go! :p

Tell the manager?
 

Silatuyok

Well-known member
I lost my phone at work last night. This morning I found it lying out in the muddy dog runs, getting rained on. That was good enough, but the great part is that it still works! Yay for my $15 phone! :)
 

Remus

Moderator
Staff member
There's something I've wanted to say here, but the topic is rather touchy, as it involves the whole "nice guys" thing...

It's just an opinion based on personal experiences, but I don't wish to cause a mass outrage that leads in heated arguments and the thread getting closed, and then be known as the one who caused trouble.

Hmm... what to do, what to do...

Nothing wrong with a thread like that. If it descends into personal attacks, that's another story.
 

Silatuyok

Well-known member
There's something I've wanted to say here, but the topic is rather touchy, as it involves the whole "nice guys" thing...

It's just an opinion based on personal experiences, but I don't wish to cause a mass outrage that leads in heated arguments and the thread getting closed, and then be known as the one who caused trouble.

Hmm... what to do, what to do...

I'd be interested to hear what others have to say about this.
 
There's something I've wanted to say here, but the topic is rather touchy, as it involves the whole "nice guys" thing...

It's just an opinion based on personal experiences, but I don't wish to cause a mass outrage that leads in heated arguments and the thread getting closed, and then be known as the one who caused trouble.

Hmm... what to do, what to do...

I'd be interested in your opinion. My stance on the argument is one that hasn't really been brought up here, so I'm kinda curious.
 

Ithior

Well-known member
I'll start. I think people are attracted to people who are a bit of a challenge. So you can be as nice as you like as long as you've got something that makes it awkward and difficult. Yay for social phobia. We rock!

:thinking: hasn't been working for me so far.
 

Lea

Banned
I don´t know how people can keep posting on fb so much. I am just too depressed to think of anything which would be worth posting. Not that I wanted to post for being interesting, that´s not important to me at all. The problem is that it signifies how depressed and uncreative I am. I also don´t know how some people can manage to post so much **** all the time and it keeps them entertained.
 
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