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Sad.
I was told in a politely indirect way by my family today that I am too boring to be around on Christmas day anymore.
So does that mean that they have only been spending Christmas with me up until now because of an 'obligation'? I guess they no longer wish to follow that 'obligation' to me at Christmas from now on...
Ouch. That hurts. :sad:
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
Sad.
I was told in a politely indirect way by my family today that I am too boring to be around on Christmas day anymore.
So does that mean that they have only been spending Christmas with me up until now because of an 'obligation'? I guess they no longer wish to follow that 'obligation' to me at Christmas from now on...
Ouch. That hurts. :sad:

It definitely sounds that way, Blue. :sad:

I can kind of relate. I got told this 5 years by one of my older sister, whilst actually sitting with ma family eating Christmas dinner. Quite ironic, since my sister's always the one insisting upon the family being together every year. Despite it always being tense.

Though, since being told I'm boring to be around, I've always opted for spending Christmas alone.
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
Just got lectured that I shouldnae spend a small percentage o' ma Christmas money on wine by my own mother. :kickingmyself:
Which is ironic, given that we just drank it with Christmas dinner. :eek:h: Wus it a joke? Hard to tell, really.
Her insistance on discouraging me makes me think she's serious. :eek:mg:
 

MollyBeGood

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Sad.
I was told in a politely indirect way by my family today that I am too boring to be around on Christmas day anymore.
So does that mean that they have only been spending Christmas with me up until now because of an 'obligation'? I guess they no longer wish to follow that 'obligation' to me at Christmas from now on...
Ouch. That hurts. :sad:

Aww BlueDays-What an awful thing for them to do to you!:thumbdown:
A good thing to remember is we cannot choose our families, right?

On a happier note, I was just thinking about you on here earlier :) as you are one of the sweetest and coolest people on this forum. (which is why your post made me so mad and sad!)

I really hope you find some happiness this holiday season, you deserve it!
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
Well, I kinda enjoy Christmas this year. The meal was good and no arguments. Yay! :D Chalk that down to the youngest of my 2 older sister deciding to spending Christmas Day and New Year in Ireland.

Still, it was kinda awkward - since I'm not one for small talk. :eek:mg:
 

GraybeardGhost

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Sad.
I was told in a politely indirect way by my family today that I am too boring to be around on Christmas day anymore.
So does that mean that they have only been spending Christmas with me up until now because of an 'obligation'? I guess they no longer wish to follow that 'obligation' to me at Christmas from now on...
Ouch. That hurts. :sad:
I got told this 5 years by one of my older sister, whilst actually sitting with ma family eating Christmas dinner.

Though, since being told I'm boring to be around, I've always opted for spending Christmas alone.

I'm sorry to hear you both had such an awful thing said to you, and at Christmas of all times. It's never fun to be rejected that way, especially by family. I can sort of relate, I guess, as I've not heard from from any of my relations in a couple of years. I don't know if they think I'm boring or what—maybe they just don't like me or don't care enough to have an opinion either way. Whatever the case, it has made for a very lonely holiday season. Even my real-life friends and acquaintances have turned their backs for the most part—not so much as a kind word or a phone call to see if I'm still alive. I've been extremely depressed, with frequent tears and almost constant thoughts of suicide. Not a very merry time for me.


Aww BlueDays-What an awful thing for them to do to you!:thumbdown:
A good thing to remember is we cannot choose our families, right?

On a happier note, I was just thinking about you on here earlier :) as you are one of the sweetest and coolest people on this forum. (which is why your post made me so mad and sad!)

I really hope you find some happiness this holiday season, you deserve it!

I agree with this whole-heartedly, and I would add, Molly, that much the same applies to you as well. You, Blue, and Graeme are among the kindest and most interesting people I've had the pleasure to meet here. I would consider it a privilege and an honor to spend Christmas with any one of you.
 

S_Spartan

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Sad.
I was told in a politely indirect way by my family today that I am too boring to be around on Christmas day anymore.
So does that mean that they have only been spending Christmas with me up until now because of an 'obligation'? I guess they no longer wish to follow that 'obligation' to me at Christmas from now on...
Ouch. That hurts. :sad:
Sorry to hear that. That is terrible.
Why do people have to be this way?
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
There's only one way to beat them - internally (with your thoughts), as u can't stop them saying what they say, thinking what they think, etc.

In theory, the following could work:
- About an unplesant remark made: 'That aint't necessarily true'
& 'That aint't necessarily bad' & 'I reject those words' (visualize throwing the words in trashcan)
- About an unplesant judgement made: 'I aint't necessarily in the wrong' &
'I aint't necessarily (judgement)' & 'I reject that judgement' (visualize throwing in trashcan)

That's actually a good metaphor for reacting to negative judgements and unkind remarks.

Wish it was easier, though. Since ma family tend to taunt and irritate me when they make snide remarks towards me. :kickingmyself:

I'm sorry to hear you both had such an awful thing said to you, and at Christmas of all times. It's never fun to be rejected that way, especially by family. I can sort of relate, I guess, as I've not heard from from any of my relations in a couple of years. I don't know if they think I'm boring or what—maybe they just don't like me or don't care enough to have an opinion either way. Whatever the case, it has made for a very lonely holiday season. Even my real-life friends and acquaintances have turned their backs for the most part—not so much as a kind word or a phone call to see if I'm still alive. I've been extremely depressed, with frequent tears and almost constant thoughts of suicide. Not a very merry time for me.

Sorry to read that Christmas has been lonely for ya, Graybeard. But then ah kinda go forgotten at this time o' year as well. Or just in general, since ah just go about ma life no complaining too much.

I agree with this whole-heartedly, and I would add, Molly, that much the same applies to you as well. You, Blue, and Graeme are among the kindest and most interesting people I've had the pleasure to meet here. I would consider it a privilege and an honor to spend Christmas with any one of you.

Kind? Aye. Interesting?
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:giggle: Thanks for the compliment. Most people tend to think me as a grumpy, anti-social gobsh**e.
 
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Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
Sorry that I’m so late in responding to yer post, Marc.

I feel self-conscious about my voice and looks.

So do I. Have done for years…

So your mom hoards because she wants to buy everyone stuff to eat and drink?

Well… Funny you should say this, actually. Because my mum had stocked up on whole lotta food and drink for my sister, brother-in-law and niece coming to visit from Ireland. She (my mum) had bought all this - mainly well-known brand-name - food and drink months before they were set to arrive.

My oldest sister even tried to get an explanation for the reasoning behind this, our my mum just shrug her shoulders and laughed. :idontknow:

Anyway, our mum has all this food and drink stored away – behind the couch, in the storage room under the stairs – in the hope neither me or my sister will nag about it. She goes to unpack it all a week before the family visit… And it’s all out of date and had to be thrown out. :eek:mg:

Even when she was out shopping with my older sister, niece and brother-in-law, they – with exception of my niece – were constantly asking why she bought certain things and if she really needed them. But when my oldest sister and I do, we’re nagging and bullying.

But the hoarding is pretty bad, like generally speaking. It’s why I stopped going shopping with my mum because, whenever she’d say she was just going to get what she had on her shopping list, we’d end up coming away with bags and bags of stuff bought purely because the price was cheap. And we’d have spent like £60, and mum would be surprised and shocked by this.

Compare that with me when our mum went to Ireland for a week, and my sister and I were responsible for the shopping. We just went in, got what we need for the week ahead – a few treats (sweets, a couple magazine) – and that was it.

And the thing is, we’re all telling our mum that this hoarding has to stop, but she just won’t listen or see sense on the matter.

I mean so I don't feel self-conscious and feel good about myself.

Oh right, I see.

Are the girls giving you bad or good looks? Maybe you should make eye contact and smile.

As someone who frequently get gawked at, I don’t know. It’s hard to tell if girls are giving me good or bad looks when their gaze darts away the moment I’ve noticed them staring at me. Like that girl a few weeks ago who kept checking me out from behind her smartphone while we wait for our respective appointments in the hospital waiting room.

Don’t get me wrong, I do smile and make eye contact but it’s just awkward for the most part. Them giggling, me not knowing what to say. Plus, me usually being with family just makes the situation weird. Like, they’ll always make a scene if they catch checking out or even saying hello to a girl; or if a girl’s checking me out and embarrass me.

At least that chubby lassie who works in my local supermarket made it blatantly obvious she was checking me out – me being a few inches taller than her. So it was more noticeable that she was eyeing me up n’ down. :giggle:

Yes you should go back into it.

Aye, definitely. Might make it a New Years Resolution? :question: Since I’ve been lazy these past few months or so. Procrastinated on working out more regularly as of late.

Standard is easy, intermediate is medium, and credit is hard difficulty in grades?

Yeah, that’s how my secondary school defined the grades.

What was your reputation?

Well, what d'ye think, man? I went into full rage-mode in the middle of ma primary school playground in front of my peers, and scared the crap outta the lads who were bullying me. Basically, I'd become Francis Begbie from Transpotting

Oh, I probably should mention, the main lad who picked on me - that was the older brother of a girl who was in the same class as me for most of primary school.

What do you mean you were born with a lighter skin tone so it is was harder to fit in? I can relate as I don't know what to call myself black or mixed black.

Just that it was harder to integrate, make friends and feel as though I belonged growing up. I mean my mum would often be asked if she’d adopted me from Africa by strangers, whenever we’d be out in public; as I had curly afro hair when I was a wee lad. And I’d get told to stop trying to “be white” whenever I did try to fit in with my peers.

Also, there’s not the same sense of community in the south of Scotland, compared to the central more cities or the Scottish Highlands. Even when my taste in music changed in my teens, my family started to think of me as weird.

Just clarifying, your youngest of two half-sisters resented you because you got all the gifts you wanted from your older sister?

Yeah. It caused many an argument growing up, but then that’s one of my main memory of my childhood. Hearing my mum and sisters argue about something.

Why was the "talk" off limits?

Don’t know really. I think it was partly because of my disability and because my mum’s staunchly conservative, and a prude when it comes to the topic of sex. Also, I got the whole feminist logic of male sexuality being sinful and wrong whenever I attempted to discuss sex or relationships.
 

theoutsider

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Wish it was easier, though. Since ma family tend to taunt and irritate me when they make snide remarks towards me. :kickingmyself:

Hi Graeme. Your experience with being taunted and irritated by those close to you sounds familiar. I was just wondering if you're in a situation (living with them, for example) where you can't get any separation. What I've found most effective with toxic people like that is to suddenly and completely stop communicating with them. Obviously, this is best for your own state of mind but my experience has been that it's also the best revenge. My guess is your family members know they are in the wrong but you're a convenient source for them to sharpen their claws. But totally cutting those who are mentally abusive exposes them to their own guilt. It forces them to take a good look at why you would do such a thing. In my experience, I've been accused of overreacting whenever I've done this but it's usually the perpetrators who reach out to me to inquire about what's wrong (as if they didn't already know). There's a certain degree of satisfaction that comes with this but I never allow them back into my life to the point where they can begin to do the same damage over again. This may also be difficult for you to do because they are your family so cutting them off completely may not be a viable option. With me, I don't care who it is. If they mean me harm, I'm willing to let them go.
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
Hi Graeme. Your experience with being taunted and irritated by those close to you sounds familiar. I was just wondering if you're in a situation (living with them, for example) where you can't get any separation.

Aye, that is indeed the case. :sad:

What I've found most effective with toxic people like that is to suddenly and completely stop communicating with them.

Tried this. But ma family, either, inquire if I'm upset about something and insist I tell them how I'm feeling. Or accuse me of being an antisocial bawbag. :mad:

If I'm smiling, upbeat and happy for no reason - something wrong. Depressed, cynical and monosyllabic - laugh-out-loud funny. Cannae win! Just can't win at all.

Obviously, this is best for your own state of mind but my experience has been that it's also the best revenge. My guess is your family members know they are in the wrong but you're a convenient source for them to sharpen their claws. But totally cutting those who are mentally abusive exposes them to their own guilt. It forces them to take a good look at why you would do such a thing. In my experience, I've been accused of overreacting whenever I've done this but it's usually the perpetrators who reach out to me to inquire about what's wrong (as if they didn't already know).

Of course they know they're in the wrong. Ah get called an effing b@$%@_¿ everytime I even dare to either question them or quote them whenever they lie. And I'm accused of overreacting whenever my family give me a smart-arse to a genuine question. Then they have the nerve to ask me if they did something to upset me? :kickingmyself:

There's a certain degree of satisfaction that comes with this but I never allow them back into my life to the point where they can begin to do the same damage over again. This may also be difficult for you to do because they are your family so cutting them off completely may not be a viable option. With me, I don't care who it is. If they mean me harm, I'm willing to let them go.

No, cutting off my family isn't a viable option. Not because of my disability means I need constant care, but because they don't want that. Since I'm meant to huv a co-dependent life. Doesnae matter if I'm utterly miserable around them, or that I'm always put their happiness ahead of my own. Being helpful when I can - not in pushy way - just me being nice. Which is, apparently, wrong. Since being nice usually means ya want something.

But they love me and need me, even though they frequently treat me like a feckin' eejit. ::(:
 

PugofCrydee

You want to know how I got these scars?
I'm over it
You see I'm falling in the vast abyss
Clouded by memories of the past
At last, I see

I hear it fading
I can't speak it
Or else you will dig my grave
We fear them finding
Always whining
Take my hand now
Be alive
 
It's probably best i didn't go to this year's boxing day gathering. Such events are not suited to people with SA/SP. I wouldn't have been missed. I'm not personable or likeable or normal. Each year i have less & less to talk about. So what's the point in going??? :question:
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
It's probably best i didn't go to this year's boxing day gathering. Such events are not suited to people with SA/SP. I wouldn't have been missed. I'm not personable or likeable or normal. Each year i have less & less to talk about. So what's the point in going??? :question:

I'm exactly the same. :sad:

Bored to f*cking f*ckery :kickingmyself:

Aye, I'm equally bored. Don't know what to do to distract myself. :idontknow:
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
Ah feel like ma depression is slowly taking away what's left of ma personality. :sad:
No that I've got much personality to begin with, like.
 
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