I dislike pornography...

shybhoy

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we are born sexualised, we are sexual beings, without sex we would not create, i'm not saying porn is ok, but i'm not saying its wrong either.
 

no1

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we are born sexualised, we are sexual beings, without sex we would not create, i'm not saying porn is ok, but i'm not saying its wrong either.

In other words you're saying it's not wrong either.

I think it's kind of unnatural to be looking at porn, but that's just my opinion.
 
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no1

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Is watching people have sex unnatural or just watching porn?

just watching porn.

However... if you think that just because we used to live in tribes before or less civilized, we wouldn't be any careful, or that it would be just like pornography then I think you are mistaken.
 

Remus

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I think it's kind of unnatural to be looking at porn, but that's just my opinion.

I'm not a fan of porn but I never thought there is anything unatural about it, unless you meant sick porn like kids or animals
 

no1

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I'm not a fan of porn but I never thought there is anything unatural about it, unless you meant sick porn like kids or animals

Sick porn like rape fantasies and men abusing the women or BDSM and shit. Showing women to be like nasty whores submissive to torture, and the men are extremely dominative to the point of being abusive, you know what I mean. Besides that too yea animals or kids. I read somewhere that almost all online p*rn made using captive women and children...

If you aren't that way, it teaches people to be that way if you never were, at least by repeated exposure.
 
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Satine

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There's been a rise in the number of female porn directors in the last few years, and I wonder if that'll make the industry more humane.

Goodness knows, when women got more into running their own businesses, relations between companies became more genial.
 

Rodox

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I recently read about a study, (which I'll have to try to find again and post it here, sorry) in which they analyzed men's brains as the male subjects looked at provocative pictures of women in bikinis, versus when they looked at pictures of tools (e.g., a power drill) or pictures that are meant to evoke compassion. What they found was that these images of women in bikinis lit up the same part of the men's brains that also light up when men view images of tools. Then they would show images that are meant to evoke compassion, like maybe someone helping somebody, and a different part of the brain lit up. But when they would show the provocative pictures, that part of the brain would not light up at all. They came to the conclusion based on their research that when men view pornography, they are basically viewing the women only as tools for sex, which was also shown to spill over into the workplace where access to porn exists.

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I would like to see a study similar to this done the other way around,show girls pictures of attractive men they dont know in provocative poses,I could be wrong,but I doubt it would be much different,I think most people are pretty much the same its just that men are more open about it.
 

Satine

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@ Blue Teardrops: Could the results of that test be unfair? Usually, provocative pictures of a woman are not of her in a position to need compassion. I don't know what these 'compassionate' pictures were, maybe of someone holding a sick kitten or something, but usually, legal pornographic pictures don't show someone needing compassion. A woman in a pornographic image is usually in a confident pose, and almost always looks healthy. What is there to be compassionate about?

The nearest you might get is with BDSM, but that's made on a consenting basis, anyway and has therefore chosen to be in that position.
 
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klytus

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must have been a religious site, sounds like BS to me
Indeed. Like Satine said, given the vast amount of amateur porn, recorded at home by random couples and uploaded online for the world to see - for free - , it is kind of clear that there is no direct need to force anyone into the pornographic industry.
 

no1

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must have been a religous site, sounds like BS to me

Ok yea those were the very words. Said that most online pornography is run by mafia. No it wasn't some religious site. Actually if u look those very words up in google, you will find it.

Maybe it isn't true, but it seems so.
 

no1

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I would like to see a study similar to this done the other way around,show girls pictures of attractive men they dont know in provocative poses,I could be wrong,but I doubt it would be much different,I think most people are pretty much the same its just that men are more open about it.

Like I said they probably never took into a account that these men probably looked at porn as well, so they might have picked up that trait from there.

But seriously... why the need to not look at the women as unhuman?
 

no1

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I could see pornography companies getting extorted my the Mafia..why not? They extort every other operation known to man why not the porn industry?? But no1 trust me these girls you see in tons of these movies are more than willing because they are getting paidpretty good for it so to say they are being held "captive" or "illegally" is simply not true. The porn capitol of the world is out in California and that is where most of it is made in the United States. So i would say they meant that the mafia extorts money from the porn indusrty like it does everyhting else. Are there some mobsters who probably run a few porn companies? Sure!!!!!!

What if everyone could find true love, and know the truth about our own nature? What if nobody would have to have problems with money? I don't think porn would exist in those times.
 

no1

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Thank you! A lot of people bitch and moan about porn being so horrible but they never bother to mention the really sick shit that is out there.

So what does that mean?

I'm not even talking about that, I'm talking about what is most easily accessible. I've never seen child porn, anywhere, nor animal porn. It must be among people who are closely affiliated, but I've never seen that kind of stuff, only heard about it. It's widely illegal. But I'm not talking about illegal porn, I'm talking about legal porn.

I read somewhere that in America it's also in conflict as to what is considered pornographic material or not.

I mean.. there are some loose ends too as regards prostitution. Escort services and all, pornography. Just prostitution yeah.

I think prostitution is bad, at least, sex for money. But if money is what everyone bases their reality on, and whether you have rights to certain things or not, why can't we buy love (ie not just sex)? Why must dollars = credentials?

The way I see it, porn and prostitution only exist because corruption still exists. People see it as "ok" only because there is corruption in this society, and the world is messed up. There is no harmony.
 
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no1

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What does that mean? It means that what people ought to be bitching about (and taking action against) are the disgusting films (snuff and rape films) that are out there that exploit people and animals. You obviously seem to have more of a problem with normal porn than with the abnormal material. I don't care if it's not easily accessible. Just because it's not in your face, doesn't mean that it's not harmful.

You're entitled to your own opinion but perhaps the truth is that you're so against regular porn because it reminds you of what you're not getting. I wouldn't doubt it considering you always have someone to blame for something that you dislike or lack in your own life. If girls don't pay attention to you it's because there's something wrong with women or because there is something wrong with men. There's always something and everyone else gets the blame. I think I am starting to see why you call yourself no1.

Wow... I'm really talking about All types of sick porn not just legal ones. Though I do find it sick for even sick porn to be legal.
 
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no1

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Wow... I'm really talking about All types of sick porn not just legal ones. Though I do find it sick for even sick porn to be legal.

It's also not surprising seeing as how society has been taught to be selfish and overly materialistic, and cruel to each other, even when they don't even know they are being cruel because the paradigm is 'selfish selflessness' these days.
 

Satine

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Who was the last person you worried about other than yourself and what did you do to help, support or comfort them? Let's be honest now. Everyone can be selfish and so can you. You seem to worry about yourself a lot.

You only seem to know people only through your own perceptions of reality and not because you've actually had a lot of experience with people. It's times like these that I really feel for you.

Absolutely! I think that if no.1 started genuinely showing concern for other people he'd be happier for it.
 

thor01

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Wow... I'm really talking about All types of sick porn not just legal ones. Though I do find it sick for even sick porn to be legal.

I do think most major porn companies could be part of the corrupt web if you like, but that's just because the few people behind the major corporations run most things. And other people would make porn if they didn't. I think for porn to be illegal would be too far really, just my feeling, because I think people should have the freedom to view it if they choose. If someone doesn't like it, and doesn't want to see it, they don't need to. I believe in doing what you want as long as you don't harm anyone else or impose it on anyone else. The act porn shows I don't think is sick, although sometimes it seems more acting than real, it is showing a natural act. I mean to me it would be strange for something like cigarettes or alcohol to be legal, but for porn not to be. If it were to be banned on terms of morality, what the government is doing in other countries is far more immoral imo.
 
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