How are you feeling?

jaim38

Well-known member
I have a morality problem. I just received some Amnesty International emails urging me to take action for people who they said were unjustly imprisoned. I was surprised to see such emails in my inbox because I wasn't active in Amnesty anymore. The last time I did something for them was back in high school, when I was more optimistic and confident. I was going to delete those emails but before I even clicked delete, I told myself, "If I delete these emails, would i be a bad person for not doing anything?" But then I had another voice tell me, "Just delete them! You don't even know these people, why are you helping them anyway? Besides, you won't make a difference just by sending emails, faxes, or tweets. If you don't do anything, there will be many other Amnesty volunteers who would take your place."

In short, I'm conflicted! I think I should help others when I FEEL like it, when I am IN the mood to do so, but obviously this morning I wasn't feeling the holiday spirit. Also, years of harassment by others made me more suspicious of others. Even if I won't make a difference, I still feel bad for deleting those emails because one part of me will tell me, "you suck! You should have done something! That's why you don't have friends, because you don't care about other people". blah blah.
 

Lea

Banned
I have a morality problem. I just received some Amnesty International emails urging me to take action for people who they said were unjustly imprisoned. I was surprised to see such emails in my inbox because I wasn't active in Amnesty anymore. The last time I did something for them was back in high school, when I was more optimistic and confident. I was going to delete those emails but before I even clicked delete, I told myself, "If I delete these emails, would i be a bad person for not doing anything?" But then I had another voice tell me, "Just delete them! You don't even know these people, why are you helping them anyway? Besides, you won't make a difference just by sending emails, faxes, or tweets. If you don't do anything, there will be many other Amnesty volunteers who would take your place."

In short, I'm conflicted! I think I should help others when I FEEL like it, when I am IN the mood to do so, but obviously this morning I wasn't feeling the holiday spirit. Also, years of harassment by others made me more suspicious of others. Even if I won't make a difference, I still feel bad for deleting those emails because one part of me will tell me, "you suck! You should have done something! That's why you don't have friends, because you don't care about other people". blah blah.

What "morality" problem?? A morality problem is if someone is dishonest, lying, stealing etc. - you´re not doing anything of this (or if so i don´t know, but here it´s not relevant). You´re NOT obliged to get yourself exploited by some charities or anything (besides I heard Amnesty International is shit). If someone tells you things like "give or donation or you´re a bad person", then that´s emotional exploitation. If you wanted to do any help of this kind, then it should be your fully voluntary decision. Another thing, with things like giving donations is good to keep check about where the money is going and make sure it´s really received by people in need. Because otherwise it can be grabbed by gangs or used for financing terrorism etc. So the final result is not moral, but immoral. If some people hand out money too easily to whomever, without keeping check if it´s really used for the right thing, that´s not only naive but in its final result immoral too.

As for your case, "people who were unjustly imprisoned". How are you and how is any ordinary citizen competent to evaluate if they were really imprisoned unjustly?? You´re not a judge, you didn´t study their case or anything, you basically know nothing about the whole thing. All that is happening is, you´re receiving the whole story and moral judgment secondhand from Amnesty International.

My opinion: 1) Don´t think if you act on what they say that you´re a moral person
2) Don´t think if you don´t act on it that you´re an imoral person.

Just have your own judgment and don´t listen to others who are telling you what you should do or what you should think.
 

jaim38

Well-known member
What "morality" problem?? A morality problem is if someone is dishonest, lying, stealing etc. - you´re not doing anything of this (or if so i don´t know, but here it´s not relevant). You´re NOT obliged to get yourself exploited by some charities or anything (besides I heard Amnesty International is shit). If someone tells you things like "give or donation or you´re a bad person", then that´s emotional exploitation. If you wanted to do any help of this kind, then it should be your fully voluntary decision. Another thing, with things like giving donations is good to keep check about where the money is going and make sure it´s really received by people in need. Because otherwise it can be grabbed by gangs or used for financing terrorism etc. So the final result is not moral, but immoral. If some people hand out money too easily to whomever, without keeping check if it´s really used for the right thing, that´s not only naive but in its final result immoral too.

As for your case, "people who were unjustly imprisoned". How are you and how is any ordinary citizen competent to evaluate if they were really imprisoned unjustly?? You´re not a judge, you didn´t study their case or anything, you basically know nothing about the whole thing. All that is happening is, you´re receiving the whole story and moral judgment secondhand from Amnesty International.

My opinion: 1) Don´t think if you act on what they say that you´re a moral person
2) Don´t think if you don´t act on it that you´re an imoral person.

Just have your own judgment and don´t listen to others who are telling you what you should do or what you should think.

I completely agree with you. It's not just Amnesty International. Sometimes I get emails from MercyCorps and somebody named "Love" with pictures of starving children and asking me to donate. I used to donate to MercyCorps but I couldn't do it anymore because I don't have a job and have student loans to pay. Everytime I see these emails, it makes me feel bad that I can't donate, but it also feels like emotional manipulation. Like you said, I should use my own judgment and common sense to get through situations like this.

In the future, if I had a job and have money left to spare, I would want to research the charity before donating. Then I would need to keep tabs on how it spends its money.
 

Lea

Banned
I completely agree with you. It's not just Amnesty International. Sometimes I get emails from MercyCorps and somebody named "Love" with pictures of starving children and asking me to donate. I used to donate to MercyCorps but I couldn't do it anymore because I don't have a job and have student loans to pay. Everytime I see these emails, it makes me feel bad that I can't donate, but it also feels like emotional manipulation. Like you said, I should use my own judgment and common sense to get through situations like this.

In the future, if I had a job and have money left to spare, I would want to research the charity before donating. Then I would need to keep tabs on how it spends its money.

     Amnesty International is US State Department Propaganda    :    Information Clearing House: ICH
 
Man... I don't usually have a problem with blushing unless something feels realllllyyyy awkward or nerve-wrackingingly embarrasing to me. Today I felt like I was standing naked onstage or something. It was just so :eek:mg: and :kickingmyself:

I've come to the stark realization that I have some serious interpersonal emotional issues I need to work on :(
 

ukmale

Well-known member
I don't know I'm lost for words

Long story that's been going on for 3+ yrs but for the mistake of passing it off as nothing it might turn out to be humans deadly enemy cancer I have a doctor's appointment Friday can't be *** to go I have made my peace and if it is what it is I will be refusing treatment
 

jaim38

Well-known member
Man... I don't usually have a problem with blushing unless something feels realllllyyyy awkward or nerve-wrackingingly embarrasing to me. Today I felt like I was standing naked onstage or something. It was just so :eek:mg: and :kickingmyself:

I've come to the stark realization that I have some serious interpersonal emotional issues I need to work on :(

Me too! I was videochatting with a guy today but for some reason I just kept blushing and felt a very intense urge to laugh! I forced myself to smile to prevent laughing. Maybe I found his accent funny or something. As soon as I broke eye contact and switched to another screen, I don't feel awkward anymore.
 

MikeyC

Well-known member
Sorry you're feeling down, Mikey. If you need to talk, you know where to find me! It's too bad we don't live closer, I could bring you some chocolate. :p

You and me both, brother. You and me both.

Hope you feel better soon.
Thank you both. I feel a bit better today. Loneliness is still sticking like napalm and probably will for a while, but I'll get over it. :)

Hope you're feeling better, Puma.
 

planemo

Well-known member
By someone I trusted. Thanks planemo, I'm going to be okay. How are you?

That sucks :sad:

i'm doing ok thanks. i have my good and my bad days.


I like the way this video puts it all out there so simple for people who want to say it's b.s.

you're a crazy conspiracy theorist!!! (just like me :giggle:)

i have found it's better not to bother about such stuff. in a weird way if it is true we're actually being exposed to it by trying to avoid it, if you get my drift.
 

Srijita52

Well-known member
^I'm glad you're okay.
I'm scared of facing tomorrow, another day of loneliness and sadness. I just wish this night never ends.
 
I don't know I'm lost for words

Long story that's been going on for 3+ yrs but for the mistake of passing it off as nothing it might turn out to be humans deadly enemy cancer I have a doctor's appointment Friday can't be *** to go I have made my peace and if it is what it is I will be refusing treatment

Wait, what? You are going to the doctor though, right? Please do. :sad: Hopefully it is nothing or relatively easily treatable. Prayers and thoughts your way.
 
I'm feeling good, but a bit on edge. I got a job at a pet store. Yay! But now begins my climb back into society and being an employee. It all makes me very nervous.
 
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