Cosmetic surgery

Slytherin88

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I am getting alot of advice and I shoul have been a bit more specific. This is not about getting porn star tits. It's about getting boobs at all. An average cup to suit body shape as mine seem to have got lost somewhere in the last 10 years or all went to my sister. It is not to attract a partner as such but for me to feel comfortable enough to date and have a relationship. Nothing to do with media influence, I know the risks as I am an educated person. Was just wondering if someone had gone through a procedure that had a direct link with their SP and perhaps helped in its decline/disappearence.
 

Zackarydoo

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It would be nice it all women would appreciate what they are given. Nobody needs cosmetic surgery unless they are born with some sort of deformity. I'm male so can't speak for other women, but I get irritated when pretty women feel the need to pay lots of money to have themselves artificially adjusted. I wish I looked good like they do without cosmetic surgery.

I think that it is better to learn to accept what you have rather than try to change yourself. You just need to believe that men will like you far more if you have not had any cosmetic surgery. Once you believe that fact, I hope you'll feel better in yourself.
 

Flanscho

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This is absolute nonsense Flanscho and I'm sure if you think about it, you'll realise that there's no point in even trying to defend this statement.

Oh come oooon. You don't seriously think that increasing the size of a womans cleavage from (. .) to ( . Y . ) will change anything about long lasting relationships? "You know, we have been quarreling a lot and have nothing really in common, but you got big boobs so everything is fine".
 

Flanscho

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Flanscho

:question:

So by your logic

big boobs ->Attract men who only want one night stands
small boobs -> Attract men who only want committed relationships


Flanscho, you're usually one to be Scientific about things. :eek:h:

I'm just saying that if you had problems to get a lasting relationship going when you had small boobs, then suddenly having large boobs won't change anything about that. Whether you have small or large boobs is absolutely irrelevant on how long a relationship is likely to last.

If you let a surgeon turn you into some sort of barbie doll, then you'll most likely attract guys who want a one night stand or trophy wife, because they care mostly about your looks.
If you get a guy who'll love you no matter whether you have small or large boobs, then he will love you not just because of your looks, and won't run away as soon as there are problems or he finds someone who is prettier.

Sure, if you suffer immensely because of your small boobs, and can't live without two huge things dragging you down, then go get a surgery. Who am I to tell you what you like most?
I have a number of female friends. Some of them have average boobs, some of them very tiny ones, and two of them are considering to get a breast size reduction.
 

gazelle

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@OP : if it helps, I've read that Kate Middleton's cup size is estimated at 30A.
And from what some of the paparazzi who've taken private pictures of the couple have said, she and William are still very much in love!
 
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Hellhound

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I'm steadily saving money for breast implants in order to actually be able to have a relationship in the future and not die alone.

A guy who loves you isn't going to care about the size of your breasts. The ones who do, don't deserve you.
 

Flanscho

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The whole point is that bigger bust size is not necessarily 'prettier' neither is a smaller bust size. Different men find different things attractive.

Large boobs are what people are taught is pretty in the societies of western developed nations. Not sure whether it's that way in other societies too, I can only tell of those I've spend a lot of time in. Sure, not all people think that, but the majority does. Because the society tells them that. That's why, for example, ads that are supposed to be sexy and target men have nearly always women with large boobs in them. Or that's why garments that make your boobs look bigger are more popular t han garments that make your boobs look smaller. Because big boobs is what people are told is pretty. And that's what most people believe.

Anyway if you read the post by the op (the second one) she clearly states she's not considering a massive increase, just a small increase to give her more confidence.
If I'd be female and would want a breast that is slightly larger, I'd wear clothing that gives me that feeling, instead of taking the risk that comes along with breast implants (think about the one story last year, where a company selling breast implants got bancrupt because they used super cheap filler material, selling it as high quality stuff, that turned out to be dangerous for the people who got that implanted). Not to mention the money involved. That's of course just me. I just think if someone wants a beauty surgery, then they should have it because they are severely depressed because of their current looks and have no way other way to change that. Instead of getting the surgery in the hopes of it having any serious impact on how long a relationship lasts.

You somehow manage to insult women with big boobs and women with small boobs at the same time
I don't want to insult anyone. If I do, I apologize. I just feel strongly about certain subjects, and like to express my opinion in that matter. I guess that english ain't my native language, and that on the internet we lack mimics, gestures and accentuation, increases the risk of misunderstandings.

I think it's sad that someone says that she doesn't like herself because she got small boobs. Because that's just in the head. It's perfectly normal that some woman got large boobs and some woman got small boobs. The problem is not the body, it's the way a person perceives himself/herself.

That's why I also think it's sad that so many people get so many weird beauty surgeries. Like men getting chin implants to make it look more defined, people getting their legs broken and stretched to be taller, having their ****** butchered up to have it look like the one of certain porn actresses. I also think it sends the wrong signal. Imagine a young daughter asking her father: "where is mommy", and he says "in the hospital". The child asks "why", father says "because she gets larger boobs". The daughter asks "why" and the father replies "because small boobs are ****ing ugly, so she gets her chest sliced open and gel packs slid into her body so that she can't sleep on her belly anymore and has problems doing sports and whatever, but she'll have hugeass tits so that'll be an improvement". What will the child learn of that? How will she perceive herself when she grows up? Of course this is an exaggeration, but toned down that happens more and more often.

But then again: I think that we all live only once, that we all deserve to be happy, and that everybody should be able to do what he/she desires to be happy, as long as this doesn't involve hurting anybody else. Whether that is polygamy, certain fetishes, collecting expensive cars, buying and burning books. I don't care. It's their lifes. But when I'm asked, I share my opinion.

All this "we have to look exactly the same, like the current beauty model" is just... weird. It reminds me on a story by Stanislav Lem, about a society where any sort of individuality has been completely removed from a society.
 
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NathanielWingatePeaslee

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Large boobs are what people are taught is pretty in the societies of western developed nations. Not sure whether it's that way in other societies too, I can only tell of those I've spend a lot of time in. Sure, not all people think that, but the majority does. Because the society tells them that.
I looked into this issue recently because of a conversation in Opaline's journal thread. Evidently, in a society where breasts are normally covered, larger breasts are (generally) considered more attractive. In a society where they are not, more shapely breasts are considered more attractive, and size is not a major factor.
 

Slytherin88

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I looked into this issue recently because of a conversation in Opaline's journal thread. Evidently, in a society where breasts are normally covered, larger breasts are (generally) considered more attractive. In a society where they are not, more shapely breasts are considered more attractive, and size is not a major factor.

That's interesting
 

Remus

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I really could not care less about breasts, I like shapely bottoms. Whose with me?
 

Remus

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me too :thumbup:

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Odo

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Argh, it's not about the guy liking them, it's about me liking myself enough to like a guy enough

After seeing all of these guys going on and on about boobs, are you really sure you want to date one? (JK).

If you're sure it's going to make you feel better about yourself, then I say go for it... but I would definitely listen to the girl in this thread who had an operation and ended up feeling worse.
 

Zackarydoo

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Argh, it's not about the guy liking them, it's about me liking myself enough to like a guy enough

Like I already said, the thing to change is the way you think about yourself rather than changing your body shape. Just try to believe that nobody but you cares about how big your breasts are, so concentrate on some sort of counselling or help to accept your body shape the way it is. Be thankful for what you have and feel lucky you don't have a deformity that you want surgery for.

I have a feeling you don't want to listen to everyone who is basically saying the same thing. We can't tell you what you want to hear - We can only tell you the truth.
 
I figure if I like a girl enough, her breast size or lack of ain't going to be a deal breaker. I hate it that things get to a point where women feel they have to surgically alter their looks to find love.
 

Pacific_Loner

Pirate from the North Pole
I am getting alot of advice and I shoul have been a bit more specific. This is not about getting porn star tits. It's about getting boobs at all. An average cup to suit body shape as mine seem to have got lost somewhere in the last 10 years or all went to my sister. It is not to attract a partner as such but for me to feel comfortable enough to date and have a relationship. Nothing to do with media influence, I know the risks as I am an educated person. Was just wondering if someone had gone through a procedure that had a direct link with their SP and perhaps helped in its decline/disappearence.

To answer your specific question, I am currently trying to fix a problem that has been on my mind since years and that I thought I should finally go with it since it has bothered me since so long, and I really feel like it's going to be worth it so far. It's not fixing SA, but it takes one thing that you were self-conscious about off your mind.
 

Phoenixx

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Re: plastic

If you want to have this surgery, you need to go in with real expectations and know that it is very likely you'll feel just as depressed or bad about yourself as you did before.
^ Excellently put.

I'm sorry I can't help you, as I have never had a cosmetic surgery... Well, involving breasts anyway. (I did have a mole removed from my back earlier this year, but that was purely because my family and I were worried that it was cancerous. Thankfully it was not.) Like psyche said, if you do want to truly have this surgery then it's best to go in with real expectations and not get too caught up in what you might imagine them to be. Personally though I think this self-esteem issue is best worked on from yourself as a person rather than having an alteration. Having small breasts really isn't that bad. I, too, am very small-busted (I'm only an A, and just barely at that.). I know in junior high and high school there were times where I felt pretty self-conscious over the fact of how small I was compared to other girls that actually had something. In fact sometimes I'm still a little self-conscious about it, but honestly I've come to accept it. I actually sometimes joke about my boobs and how small they are. Sure, bra shopping can be a pain in the arse, but at least I don't have to hold my boobs when I run! :bigsmile: I can't exactly use them to hold things, but that's fine with me.

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