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You two speak my mind.I'd die if I couldn't have a beef burger.
Nature is inherently cruel...ever see those videos of foxes eating baby chicks? Ever seen a cat slowly torture a mouse until it bleeds out? Killing an animal for its meat is natural, even if it suffers. The question of "humanely raised" meat is a different question, as I see it. The heavy majority of animals killed for food (I would estimate at well over 90%) are raised in an environment where they are unable to perform their natural behaviors. Gestation crates which dont allow pigs to turn around, battery cages which dont allow hens to flap their wings, grain fed cows that live on feedlots intead of pasture, baby cows that are chained at the neck for veal....all examples of such. The farm animals that live on factory farms are kept in such close quarters that they would die were it not for heavy antibiotics. About 99% of these animals are sick when they are slaughtered. They are fed growth hormones which promote unnatural growth and killed when they are still very young. They are unable to lead normal social lives and exhibit extreme stress and frustration because of it. Baby animals are torn from their mothers....baby pigs have their tails and testicles ripped off without anesthetics, and baby chickens have their beaks burnt off in the same manner. They are stressed, scared, sick, and generally in pain for their entire lives. Disgruntled workers often take out their own frustrations on the animals, routinely beating and mutilating them. For me, it is not the act of killing but the act of not allowing a pig to be a pig, or a cow to be a cow, and so on that is the problem. Local level farmers who raise their animals on pasture and treat their animals with respect are not cruel, in my opinion. Until recently humans and farm animals had a symbiotic relationship, with the animals benefiting from reproduction and protection from predators and humans benefiting from milk, eggs, flesh, and often times companionship. When we stopped treating animals with dignity and respect is where we went wrong, and it is why I chose to stop consuming their products. Its a profit driven industry that has no respect for human health, the environment, or the animals. I'm not saving animals from pain and suffering, but not putting these products into my body gives me some degree of control over something I really can't change. It makes me feel more at peace. I'm a pretty healthy guy, too.
I'm a meat eater and proud of it. I dislike animal cruelty as much as the next guy, but there's no beating evolution. We are meant to it meat. It's a fact. We need protein's to survive, and meat gives us a lot of it. Even hard vegans who despise eating even fish and dairy products have to take substitution pills to make up for the lost nutrition from not eating meat, and a lot of these products are made from ingredients made from animals, making the entire lifestyle hypocritical and pointless.
Nature is inherently cruel...ever see those videos of foxes eating baby chicks? Ever seen a cat slowly torture a mouse until it bleeds out? Killing an animal for its meat is natural, even if it suffers. The question of "humanely raised" meat is a different question, as I see it. The heavy majority of animals killed for food (I would estimate at well over 90%) are raised in an environment where they are unable to perform their natural behaviors. Gestation crates which dont allow pigs to turn around, battery cages which dont allow hens to flap their wings, grain fed cows that live on feedlots intead of pasture, baby cows that are chained at the neck for veal....all examples of such. The farm animals that live on factory farms are kept in such close quarters that they would die were it not for heavy antibiotics. About 99% of these animals are sick when they are slaughtered. They are fed growth hormones which promote unnatural growth and killed when they are still very young. They are unable to lead normal social lives and exhibit extreme stress and frustration because of it. Baby animals are torn from their mothers....baby pigs have their tails and testicles ripped off without anesthetics, and baby chickens have their beaks burnt off in the same manner. They are stressed, scared, sick, and generally in pain for their entire lives. Disgruntled workers often take out their own frustrations on the animals, routinely beating and mutilating them. For me, it is not the act of killing but the act of not allowing a pig to be a pig, or a cow to be a cow, and so on that is the problem. Local level farmers who raise their animals on pasture and treat their animals with respect are not cruel, in my opinion. Until recently humans and farm animals had a symbiotic relationship, with the animals benefiting from reproduction and protection from predators and humans benefiting from milk, eggs, flesh, and often times companionship. When we stopped treating animals with dignity and respect is where we went wrong, and it is why I chose to stop consuming their products. Its a profit driven industry that has no respect for human health, the environment, or the animals. I'm not saving animals from pain and suffering, but not putting these products into my body gives me some degree of control over something I really can't change. It makes me feel more at peace. I'm a pretty healthy guy, too.
Pride is never good, the less for something which doesn´t cost you any effort. And to be proud of KILLING which you don´t even have to do yourself, but others do it while you´re enjoying yourself seems to me rather as ignorance.