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twiggle

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I dont think it is and not wanting to offend you but I dont think you are an unbiased source,so I would rather stay with the opinion that maturity is subjective,another thing I am seeing in this thread is that men who are older dont cheat, dont like sex as much and are not promiscuous,I disagree also, a lot just grow more experienced at doing those stuff,so again its about the individual.

Your opinion is based on guys that girls at your high-school dated, mine is based on people I know too. Our opinions are equally biased. Like I said, it's all down to personal experiences.

Yes maturity is subjective, but as with most things it is not uncommon to find trends within that. And my personal view is that older men are more mature. Maybe that is bias, but I am simply trying to give a reason or two as to why the women Emre has encountered on the dating websites may want to state a preference for an older man, which is what this is originally about. I am not claiming to state any fact, just saying what many women (but certainly not all) think.

I just really don't understand what's so bad about stating an age preference :confused:
 
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OceanMist

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I will continue my journal that has seemed to make it's way into this thread. This past week has been insane for me. Probably the wildest week of my life considering I had a woman I dated 3 times totally ignore me the entire week and now I'm done with her, went on a date on Saturday with a new woman that I'll talk about in a second, and then today I decided to attempt to make friends again with my friends from the past. All in one week. I'll continue with my post to BSammy, which explains it best, from the beginning:

Yep, that woman is over. I've already pretty much forgotten about her. She didn't respond to any of my calls or texts this week, so she's finished no matter what.

What's funny is that it may have helped that this happened because I already got a date with a woman and I told this woman the story about the woman who screwed me over and we bonded over it. She said that I should call that woman who ignored me and tell her that she's a bi--- and doesn't deserve me. I'm not going to even do that because what's the point? It's not like she's going to respond, you know. I'd have nothing to gain from that except she'd listen to the message and think I'm a jerk.

This woman I found online, she's actually hot. When I met in her person, when she sat down and faced me I was like is this woman seriously talking to me? It's funny because I may be above average looking, but since I'm so shy, I've never dated an attractive woman b4. I even asked her what the heck she was doing on an online dating site and she said she's on there to meet new people and/or date guys. She's 20, and that's fine with me. I'm willing to date women between 19-40 years old, lol. Age doesn't mean that much to me considering most women have bigger social lives than me.

I know it sounds negative, but something tells me this is too good to be true. If I can't hold on to below average or average looking women for more than 3 dates, then an attractive woman should be even harder to hold on to. It's funny because she already promised me that if she breaks up with me, she'll tell me the truth why. She said she won't be like the woman I was just with.

Also, I'm planning on turning my social life around. I'm deciding to make tomorrow judgment day, and I am planning on going to my old friends house, the ones that I complained about. Like I've complained to you so many times, guys need social status and friendships to talk about if they want to get women and hold onto women. I'm going to try to be one of those guys from now on. 4 years it's been since I've been there.

You know I've got to do this if I want a chance at getting respect from women and to have a chance for a relationship. It's not just that, but I also need friends for me. I need friends so I'm not alone all the time and feeling lonely. If I can improve my social status I can actually fit in with society and don't have to be ashamed to talk about my life.

I'm going to go there on a monday morning, that way there is less of a chance of it being packed in there. I want to deal with as less of people as possible. I've just got to get this first meeting over with. Then that fear wall will be broken down and it should be a little easier. Or at least I hope it will.
 
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AGR

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Your opinion is based on guys that girls at your high-school dated, mine is based on people I know too. Our opinions are equally biased. Like I said, it's all down to personal experiences.

yes,but I am not saying who is more mature,so I am not choosing,it depends on the individual and what you think maturity is,not on age or sex,I only said that to show that it was subjective and the girls were not more mature than the boys,they only think they are.
 
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twiggle

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yes,but I am not saying who is more mature,so I am not choosing,it depends on the individual and what you think maturity is,not on age or sex,I only said that to show that it was subjective and the girls were not more mature than the boys.

I didn't say 'girls are more mature than boys' as though it's a fact, I said that it is a popularly held belief that they mature faster. I don't take it as a fact and am wise enough to judge people on an individual basis. Though, in my personal experiences, I have found older men to be more mature than guys my age. I am entitled to this opinion, as you are entitled to yours. I will continue to judge guys on an individual basis - I know that everybody is different.
 

AGR

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I didn't say 'girls are more mature than boys' as though it's a fact, I said that it is a popularly held belief that they mature faster.

Well its a false belief,because maturity is subjective.

About the older guys,I find that a lot of them have all those bad stuff written in this thread down to mastery and still do it like a lot of men haha.
 

twiggle

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Well its a false belief,because maturity is subjective.

About the older guys,I find that a lot of them have all those bad stuff written in this thread down to mastery and still do it like a lot of men haha.

I could easily tell you your personal opinion is wrong just like you have told me mine is, but I'm going to refrain from doing so.

And that my friends, is that.
 
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emre43

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Every individual is different and every one of us wants something different. Some people are more mature than others and others less so. It's the personality that determines ones maturity and how they were brought up, not sex or age. The only thing that changes with age is experience.
 
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AGR

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I could easily tell you your personal opinion is wrong just like you have told me mine is, but I'm going to refrain from doing so.

And that my friends, is that.

then do it,show me whats wrong,my last post is verifiable,because what I said are acts it is not subjective,like cheating,being promiscuous and having sex a lot,getting older doesnt mean someone will stop doing those acts,that is silly, as I said before its about the individual.
 

OceanMist

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Went to my friend's house. I finally did it. I went up there and knocked on the door. Nobody answered, but that's okay because there was only one car in the driveway and I'm pretty sure my friend wasn't there. Normally when people are there there are like 3 or more cars parked around there.

First time in 3 or 4 years I've gone to try to hang out with friends. I'll have to go there during the evening. I don't have the guts to go back tonight. This is so hard. I want to get this over with this week.

I can't find this guy's number because he has no land line and I can't find his cell number.

It sucks because it's not going to be one on one, there will be multiple people there. They had this beer pong table in their garage that I saw. I'm concerned that there will people there that I don't know, which there should be.

I just hope it's not really awkward. I hope I have the courage to go there too. It's the same thing as the dates, walking up to the place where the people is are is like walking to death. I always get that detached feeling like I can't believe I'm there.
 

OceanMist

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I just thought about it and the best way for me to do this is to drink and ride my bike down to their house. It sucks I have to resort to alcohol but that's the best way for me to get the courage to show up there.

Another reason is they'll probably be drinking too, so drinking would just make me fit in more. I won't get as much anxiety doing this and they sure won't lose respect for me if I show up with some beers in me. They are alcoholics practically.

It will probably funny to them too, if i show up that way. It sucks that he lives so far away, though. Long bike ride on a very cheap bike. I better get used to it, though, if I plan on being friends with these guys.

This is what really sucks about being a loner. I have to show up to places by myself a lot. Ugh. It's so much harder rolling up on a party by yourself.
 
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OceanMist

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I backed out of going to the friend's place last night. It is an excuse but I drank quickly and got kind of sick and then my anxiety kicked in too.

I went there today at 12:30 but nobody was there as far as I know because I knocked and got no answer. I am planning on drinking and going back tonight.

4 years it's been. I've just got get this first meeting out of the way but it's so hard to get the courage to go up there and knock on the door. I wish I could just stake out and wait for someone I know to be playing beer pong. As creepy as it is, I saw this place that's far away but I can see their garage from there. I don't know if i have any binocs though, haha.

I wish one of you could go with me so I don't have to go alone. It's definitely the alone thing that makes this 10 times harder.
 

OceanMist

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Well, I passed out again last night. So tonight, I'm not going to drink and try to go over there. I just want to get this over with. It's so difficult to break through that anxiety wall once I get close to his house.

I'm just worried about the people there that I won't know. I don't know how that's going to work out because of my shyness.

I wish I could just leave in the first 10 minutes but that would be ridiculous considering I've been gone from them for 4 years.
 

PhantomPod

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A guy I've been talking to on an online dating site asked me if I want to go to dinner tomorrow night.

ahhhh! What do I do, what do I do, what do I do!?! I'm seriously freaking out... I said yeah, so I'll see what he says about where and what time...
 

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A guy I've been talking to on an online dating site asked me if I want to go to dinner tomorrow night.

ahhhh! What do I do, what do I do, what do I do!?! I'm seriously freaking out... I said yeah, so I'll see what he says about where and what time...

Well, first of all, congratulations!

As for what to do, when you figure out when and where you're meeting, try to not stress about it too much. I found myself feeling nervous just a few hours before the last date I went on, and it didn't go away until I finally met up with the guy. In most cases, the nervousness does seem to fade away once you finally meet in person (it's like a build-up). For when you do finally meet up, I would suggest just try being yourself (I know that sounds cliche) and I'm sure it will go fine. :)
 

PhantomPod

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Thanks for the tips! I'm so nervous and I don't even know the details about it yet. I'm just trying to think that he's probably nervous too, as the guy who has to do the asking out. I don't know if he is very shy, but from his profile he does seem pretty low-key and reserved, cause he mentioned not being into the partying and drinking scene.
 

OceanMist

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Well, I passed out again last night. So tonight, I'm not going to drink and try to go over there. I just want to get this over with. It's so difficult to break through that anxiety wall once I get close to his house.

I'm just worried about the people there that I won't know. I don't know how that's going to work out because of my shyness.

I wish I could just leave in the first 10 minutes but that would be ridiculous considering I've been gone from them for 4 years.

Finally did it. It was easier because I caught one of my friends getting the mail. He was the only one there and we hung out for like an hour and a half.

I may have some problems but I've got to proud of these two break throughs I've made with dating women and now I've seen at least one friend. Those are the two main parts to a social life and I've put myself in both of those situations.

I do feel relieved.
 

SM1010

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Thanks for the tips! I'm so nervous and I don't even know the details about it yet. I'm just trying to think that he's probably nervous too, as the guy who has to do the asking out. I don't know if he is very shy, but from his profile he does seem pretty low-key and reserved, cause he mentioned not being into the partying and drinking scene.

Next time, If I were you, I'd suggest drinks instead of dinner.

Dinner can kind of be long and awkward, where drinks can be quick in case they're an ******* or something.

I always ask women if they want to meet up for a quick drink the first meeting. It's a great quick way to figure out if you're actually interested in hanging out more than once.

But don't worry you'll be fine at dinner. Please don't freak out about your dinner date due to this. Just some friendly tips for next time.
 

PhantomPod

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Well, we went to dinner and it went okay I guess. I mean, I was definitely super weird and awkward lol, but I still feel like I did an okay job talking and he helped keep the conversation going.

He was a nice guy. I mean, I didn't feel "sparks" or anything like they describe in the movies, you know lol. But it went ok. Now I can say that at the age of 24 I have finally been on my first date.
 

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Well, we went to dinner and it went okay I guess. I mean, I was definitely super weird and awkward lol, but I still feel like I did an okay job talking and he helped keep the conversation going.

He was a nice guy. I mean, I didn't feel "sparks" or anything like they describe in the movies, you know lol. But it went ok. Now I can say that at the age of 24 I have finally been on my first date.

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