3lefts
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As I read the first sentence of this, it was all in a very familiar and dramatic voice.....
took me a while to remember where I've heard it.
Death: Becoming nonexistant?
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As I read the first sentence of this, it was all in a very familiar and dramatic voice.....
took me a while to remember where I've heard it.
It think in all our advancement, comforts and luxury we forgot to live like evolution intended us to. We're changing our environment too fast for us to adjust to it. Look at people whom live in semi-modern forest tribes, they live with nature and do so relatively carefree because they're not pushed beyond their nature (too much), nor past their culture. They've got a balance between desire and necessity.
I've mentioned this somewhere else, not sure where it was again, but we're treated- and expected to act, like machine parts, the larger machine in question being society. Think about it, from birth we follow our natural course (walking, communication and defense) and then we're dropped off in various schools throughout our entire childhood and large part of our puberty to get our ''education'' or ''firmware update'' as I like to call it. And even after that, we're expected to further update our knowledge.
Then it's time to fulfill our part as.. well.. parts, until we become too worn to fulfill our duties. Then we're replaced by newer parts. And the thing is; We're not machines. The mentality we deem normal isn't the one we got naturally, it's been put there by a globally condoned form of brainwashing. Because it's only when you are forced to think about it, that you start seeing the flaws and abnormalities of mainstream society. From a natural perspective, it is abnormal to live like 60- or 70% of the world does. We just don't see it because that way of life is passed on from generation to generation.
Now, I'm not saying it is a bad thing perse. For many it seem to work just fine, and if they're happy with it, I'll be happy for them as well. But, for those that it doesn't work for it is a huge inconvenience as they're forced between two extreme choices; Adjust to society and local culture/Return to the wild and risk death.
I've gone a bit off topic here. And I'm not really going anywhere conclusive with this, so I'll wrap it up and sum it up. :B
Long story short; there's just a lack of choice due to semi-global generalization.
I've mentioned this somewhere else, not sure where it was again, but we're treated- and expected to act, like machine parts, the larger machine in question being society. Think about it, from birth we follow our natural course (walking, communication and defense) and then we're dropped off in various schools throughout our entire childhood and large part of our puberty to get our ''education'' or ''firmware update'' as I like to call it. And even after that, we're expected to further update our knowledge.
Then it's time to fulfill our part as.. well.. parts, until we become too worn to fulfill our duties. Then we're replaced by newer parts. And the thing is; We're not machines. The mentality we deem normal isn't the one we got naturally, it's been put there by a globally condoned form of brainwashing. Because it's only when you are forced to think about it, that you start seeing the flaws and abnormalities of mainstream society. From a natural perspective, it is abnormal to live like 60- or 70% of the world does. We just don't see it because that way of life is passed on from generation to generation.
Now, I'm not saying it is a bad thing perse. For many it seem to work just fine, and if they're happy with it, I'll be happy for them as well. But, for those that it doesn't work for it is a huge inconvenience as they're forced between two extreme choices; Adjust to society and local culture/Return to the wild and risk death.
I've gone a bit off topic here. And I'm not really going anywhere conclusive with this, so I'll wrap it up and sum it up. :B
Long story short; there's just a lack of choice due to semi-global generalization.
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Pookah
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Wish I could add to your rep but it went poof.
Fictional rep is just as nice. ;D
DespairSoul
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Hello Pookah,
Well considered truly thread u post. Why we do everything this if is anyway for nothing. We do it only because we are forced to do it or we do it for hapiness. Its scary but someone will death set free. Im not free here i will be free after death. I was before believing there must be something. Now i dont believe anymore that something is there only from logic add. Is like u go sleep u know u go sleep and morning u wake up with out knowing what was if u was sleeping. Sometimes we have dreams yes but we have them because we are alive. If u are death u are just death. As u say u was on surgery and u dont remember nothing. There is no heaven no hell. For someone is hell here. Live is wonderfull if u can live normal with out depression, with out anxiety and freaking out,being hypersensitive. Heaven and hell is already created on the earth. People are creatures wich time after time get worse. I know is dare being a human(not for me).. Here i dont have peace. People hunting for better career,better houses,cars...for what is it exactly!? Pookah u put very good interresting point. Many times i was thinking if there is really something. I feel just death is death. If i will give me hope there is something will be just hope because i wish that there is something not because really is. People make up stories with heaven and hell because theirs hopes die last. Always i was hearing this sentence somewhere (if u will be good/bad boy/girl u will go to the heaven/hell). Speculated Illusion make u feel worse or good about your self nothing more or less. Thank u for posting this thread!
Well considered truly thread u post. Why we do everything this if is anyway for nothing. We do it only because we are forced to do it or we do it for hapiness. Its scary but someone will death set free. Im not free here i will be free after death. I was before believing there must be something. Now i dont believe anymore that something is there only from logic add. Is like u go sleep u know u go sleep and morning u wake up with out knowing what was if u was sleeping. Sometimes we have dreams yes but we have them because we are alive. If u are death u are just death. As u say u was on surgery and u dont remember nothing. There is no heaven no hell. For someone is hell here. Live is wonderfull if u can live normal with out depression, with out anxiety and freaking out,being hypersensitive. Heaven and hell is already created on the earth. People are creatures wich time after time get worse. I know is dare being a human(not for me).. Here i dont have peace. People hunting for better career,better houses,cars...for what is it exactly!? Pookah u put very good interresting point. Many times i was thinking if there is really something. I feel just death is death. If i will give me hope there is something will be just hope because i wish that there is something not because really is. People make up stories with heaven and hell because theirs hopes die last. Always i was hearing this sentence somewhere (if u will be good/bad boy/girl u will go to the heaven/hell). Speculated Illusion make u feel worse or good about your self nothing more or less. Thank u for posting this thread!
Untamed88
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This amazing and eye-opening.
Its very motivational too. I dont want to stay in my ****-hole job, I want to live my life how I want to.
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Yeah hence the reason why belief in an afterlife is so appealing. Suddenly not existing is pretty damn scary. Like you said mortality is indeed unfair. Especially if you're taken out of this world as a child before you get the chance to actually live. So I kinda do hope there is an afterlife, one without flames preferably.
JamesSmith
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Yep, life sucks, then you die. I'm a Christian so I believe I'm going to heaven and I believe God will free me from anxiety. That's the main thing i want, to just get rid of this tension i've had my whole life.
I'd be lying if i said i didn't question why God has made my life so difficult compared to many other people. What am I to do though, it's not like i'm going to kill myself. I know He doesn't want that. He wouldn't have put me on earth just so I can put a bullet in my head at 26 years old.
I'd be lying if i said i didn't question why God has made my life so difficult compared to many other people. What am I to do though, it's not like i'm going to kill myself. I know He doesn't want that. He wouldn't have put me on earth just so I can put a bullet in my head at 26 years old.
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^In all honesty being put in the world with just anxiety isn't the worst card you can be dealt. I met this dude at school today that used to play football and baseball until he got hit by a car, now he's in a wheelchair. I couldn't help but to feel bad for him since sports was his passion in life and now he cant even type on a keyboard right. So he has to settle for watching the others play. Not really sure what keeps him going now in life but I guess he holds on to something. ::
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Dr. Doom
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I hope my mind becomes some sort of cesstial being, or becomes part of a cesstial group of like minds. I like the Idea of reincarnation, doubt it though. I don't think I'm going to a heaven or hell, I'd want to go to purgatory anyways. I'd like to go to a void. A place where is nothing, kind of like the place where morphius first sholwed neo the matrix
forksandspoons
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YouTube - Life sucks, and then you die
When I die Im going to my grave, not to heaven or hell, or anything in between. I tried to believe in God and an afterlife, but I just don't. I had that belief back when my life was great, before SA, so it is not biased.
When I die Im going to my grave, not to heaven or hell, or anything in between. I tried to believe in God and an afterlife, but I just don't. I had that belief back when my life was great, before SA, so it is not biased.
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planemo
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I'm getting to the point in life when I just wish i could be cured, of all my insecurities and if not, then just wish everything could end. Why battle something that is indestructible? Doesn't the man who is dangling over a cliff, and hangs on for dear life, end up the same way as the man who let go without trying? I don't know... I feel like giving in and finally admitting that this test of mine, that of being so anxious is just too much, and I just want out. Life is so pointless if you have to fix everything before you can enjoy it.
DespairSoul
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Falkor
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Life is beautiful, because Now is the time you can enjoy it, and you should.
That is what gets me through this hard time, of course it is a hard fact of life. Everyone has 1 thing they can be sure of. It will end.
But that's why we should make the best of it, and u know this is why I started thinking differently. I want to make the best out of my life, I don't want to hide from the world, I want to show myself, I can show who I am, I'm unique like everybody else is, and so do YOU. Believe in yourself, and if you don't believe in YOU, believe in FAITH. Or see the beauty of life. Face your fears, or replace your fears by thinking, I want to do it, because the people I see , will be not thinking about me after they've seen me, they will be just going further with their life like I do, so i can stand wherever i want. I can prove myself, that I'm worth to life a socially loving life. Follow your dreams, now is the time to follow the path of your wishes, Make them true... and the most importance.. for me.. is.. Is stay positive.. And show care for the people around you.. Helping people Is making me happy too. Seeing other people smile..
Or even the little things make me happy.. I've been negative enough. Today the day. I will pray. For beautiful times.. let's enjoy life like we've never done before. even though we have sa, we are unique. People with sa aren't judging, they are careful in this world, they are timid and they don't hurt people, they help people. I see this all back in you guys, you are all so supportive, believe in true faith. Let's make our life shine. and have a great time.
Greetz flowerly
That is what gets me through this hard time, of course it is a hard fact of life. Everyone has 1 thing they can be sure of. It will end.
But that's why we should make the best of it, and u know this is why I started thinking differently. I want to make the best out of my life, I don't want to hide from the world, I want to show myself, I can show who I am, I'm unique like everybody else is, and so do YOU. Believe in yourself, and if you don't believe in YOU, believe in FAITH. Or see the beauty of life. Face your fears, or replace your fears by thinking, I want to do it, because the people I see , will be not thinking about me after they've seen me, they will be just going further with their life like I do, so i can stand wherever i want. I can prove myself, that I'm worth to life a socially loving life. Follow your dreams, now is the time to follow the path of your wishes, Make them true... and the most importance.. for me.. is.. Is stay positive.. And show care for the people around you.. Helping people Is making me happy too. Seeing other people smile..
Or even the little things make me happy.. I've been negative enough. Today the day. I will pray. For beautiful times.. let's enjoy life like we've never done before. even though we have sa, we are unique. People with sa aren't judging, they are careful in this world, they are timid and they don't hurt people, they help people. I see this all back in you guys, you are all so supportive, believe in true faith. Let's make our life shine. and have a great time.
Greetz flowerly
Aussie_Lad
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There seems to be two aspects to this post, firstly life and society and secondly death. I could go on about both for ages. I think firstly we need to deal with life becuase that is more important to us at this stage than death is. I will link a discussion to another board here, becuase it has some fascinating stuff about the way we live our lives. Pay particular attention the to posts by "Guy Faux" (which start on page 2) becuase he has a lot of interesting viewpoints that is well worth the reads:
2012 Forum • Is the 9 to 5 Insane??
Here is the first part of one of Guy Faux's posts as a teaser:
2012 Forum • Is the 9 to 5 Insane??
Here is the first part of one of Guy Faux's posts as a teaser:
coyote
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I found this article interesting....
Dead Teen Had Pretty Terrible Life Ahead Of Him, Parents Report | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
Dead Teen Had Pretty Terrible Life Ahead Of Him, Parents Report | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
Pookah
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Coyote sent you the wrong link. This is the right one.
Dead Teen Had Pretty Terrible Life Ahead Of Him, Parents Report | totallyseriousandrealstories.com - only genuine news, really
Dead Teen Had Pretty Terrible Life Ahead Of Him, Parents Report | totallyseriousandrealstories.com - only genuine news, really
doubleM
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i think about this every single day. its one thing that i enjoy about being not "normal". most people are sheep/zombies. they get married, have a buttload of idiot kids, they work these awful mundane jobs they hate from 9-5, then come home and do the same old routine, get old/out of shape, waste away, then die.
im just not that type of person. i have to feel like ive accomplished something. i am definitely not a sheep. i can just waste my life and die like others.
im just not that type of person. i have to feel like ive accomplished something. i am definitely not a sheep. i can just waste my life and die like others.
johannes
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I thought about this and here's my opinion: I think it has to do with the invention of progress, ever present in a more and more occidentalized world.
The notion that there will always be a "better tomorrow" is chaotic and contradicting to our nature. When humans left tradition, and a life of contemplation and admiration to their surroundings, they felt they were gods and could shape the world to their liking, but it all ends tragically when death comes and so we pose this questions about something we can't grasp, and this leads us to fear and disappointment and being pissed off about how bad life is cause it leads to nothingness.
Perhaps we don't have to have a point in life other than just living.
I'm thinking more along the lines of this:
"It is something to be able to paint a particular picture, or to carve a statue, and so to make a few objects beautiful; but it is far more glorious to carve and paint the very atmosphere and medium through which we look, which morally we can do. To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts. Every man is tasked to make his life, even in its details, worthy of the contemplation of his most elevated and critical hour." - H.D. Thoreau
My 2¢
The notion that there will always be a "better tomorrow" is chaotic and contradicting to our nature. When humans left tradition, and a life of contemplation and admiration to their surroundings, they felt they were gods and could shape the world to their liking, but it all ends tragically when death comes and so we pose this questions about something we can't grasp, and this leads us to fear and disappointment and being pissed off about how bad life is cause it leads to nothingness.
Perhaps we don't have to have a point in life other than just living.
I'm thinking more along the lines of this:
"It is something to be able to paint a particular picture, or to carve a statue, and so to make a few objects beautiful; but it is far more glorious to carve and paint the very atmosphere and medium through which we look, which morally we can do. To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts. Every man is tasked to make his life, even in its details, worthy of the contemplation of his most elevated and critical hour." - H.D. Thoreau
My 2¢