Death: Becoming nonexistant?

iamthenra

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When I sleep I dream vividly. Nothingness is like when I was put under for surgery. I remember nothing it was a time skip.

I like the thought of deep space and ocean. Its calming. I like looking at pictures of dust and gas in space.
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I rarely have any dreams that I remember... So in fact my sleep is like you being put under for surgery...
 

Pookah

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Oh noes! No dreams? I'm sorry. :(

Dreams are one of the only pleasant things in my life.
 
i can't wait till consciousness ends and I return to nothingness.

the worse that could happen is that I come back as a newborn baby....

which probably has already happened to me a million times without me realizing it

:(
 

arsenalwa

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I haven't read all the thread yet cause I feel in a hurry to reply to this for some reason.

I always think about that. Everything you said. Lately, I think alot like... why do people live? You know? If most of the people I know think life sucks and such... why do you have to suffer all the problems and trouble life throws at you during you life, and everything you said, work, study, get married, have children... it's like template that everyone is supposed to follow, without thinking. And they all do it like they'll get a reward at the end or something. I don't know...

One thing I know though; not many people's lifes suck as much as mine. And alot of the time I really really want to die. But I don't have the courage to do it for some reason. Or it's cause I'm afraid I'll be back to that "nothingness" after death which scares me and makes me force myself to think that there's still hope and that things may get better and that I shouldn't waste these few years everyone gets the chance to live outside of that nothingness...
 
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lunaticbinge

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Sometimes I feel that if nothingness is what awaits us all, i'd rather just get on with it already. This life is fleeting in contrast to eternity.
 
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. Theres only very few things that make life worthwhile. IMO, a life led by values is more meaningful and fulfilling than a life led by goals/achievements. Unfortunately most people lead a goal-based life.


Find things to make you feel free in life, have fun forget everything else.
 

Pookah

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I still have to force myself to not think about this sometimes or I get an intense feeling of dread that is hard to shake.
 

coyote

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Death is inevitable.

So rather than fight it - embrace it.

Live as though you are already dead.

The earthly bonds of this world no longer have any hold on you.

Wealth, power, achievements, social status, have no meaning for a dead person.

This is very freeing.

You can do anything, be anything you want.

You have your whole life to do with as you want when you're dead to the world.
 
Im amazed that this brain Im using to type and think with will eventually rot and decay into nothing....

that's fascinating yet scary at the same time
 

HereIAm

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I'm failing my college courses because I keep having this "idea". I mean after i finish college, what am i suppose to do? Find a job and start making money... Okay? so making money will make me happy? Okay...NOT! Its all bull really, this is why i'm so confuse.

The thing about raging against society norms is that they'll look down upon you. Most would labeled you as mentally ill or what not. And if to the extreme, you'll be put into a crazy house. Life is basically following rules... or you suffer greatly.

So what if 'they' look down upon you? Try to find what makes you happy and then look for work in that arena. Make enough to pay the bills and use the rest to pursue what makes you happy. We humans spend so much time worrying what others/society thinks of us, instead of 'seizing the day'.

Talk with a school counselor or go to job counseling...tell them you are looking for something outside the box as far as work. Heck during summer/fairs season selling cotton candy can make you 5K a weekend....many options...not fancy, high-titled jobs, but you make money and have tons of free time. Keep looking and as is repeatedly said...Those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter. Just delete the opinions of those who don't matter in your life, things will be far better. Don't worry, I have days I let other's input and opinions get to me, but I rally and remember life is short and do you want to spend it tap dancing to another's tune?:)
 

coyote

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Or maybe nothing exists other than what we perceive to exist.

So if we cease to exist, and therefore, cease to perceive,

Then everything else ceases to exist as well.


From nothing into nothing...
 
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Littlewilly

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I sumtimes think abt wat it woz like b4 we came in2 this world (NOTHING) & 2 think that wen we di we probably go 2 nothing. Itz fritening isn't it 2 try imagining wat itz like being ded (OOHAR MISSIS). U could drive urself ****less trying 2 imagine it.
Wen I woz a kid I'd frite-ten myself thinken abt wen u di u'd go 2 nothing not knowen anything so I would say thank god itz a long,long way off but at nearly 50 (OOPS!).:eek:
 

Jake123

Banned
Death is probably something like the billion of years before you were born. You don't remember it right? It was pretty much nothing? That's like death :p
 

da_illest101

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let's face it, the reality is that we are here for absolutely no freaking reason and that's what's so hard to understand. Everything in this world lives then dies, just because we can think doesn't mean we are more important, different, valuable then anything else. No offense to anyone who is religious, but i just think religion is a way to forget this. Every rule about anything is just man made and no can make me think otherwise. Good or bad is just an opinion no different then taste for food.

ok i'm getting carried away but i completely agree with you pookah
 
Sometimes after a long day of work I lay awake in my bed in the darkness and think about how f'd up and disgustingly ordinary the cycle of life is. I can't believe so many human beings are forced to stifle themselves so completely just so they can maintain a job to "survive." A job that might not pay well and that they might hate.

You go to school, get a job, work until retirement (if you can afford it) and then you start the impending countdown to death. It doesn't seem that fulfilling at all to me.

When I think of this I can't imagine why I'd want to conform to the societal norm of having kids when it is possibly forcing them to live that same life. This with no guarantee of anything afterward.

This stream of consciousness leads to thinking about death. Life is short, and you never can know how short. What happens after? No one has proof. It scares me to think that it is a return to nonexistence. I don't remember anything before I was born (anything from early childhood really) so I am forced to assume that death will be like what was before my birth. Nothing.

It is so hard to grasp this idea. How can my consciousness and being just stop? What a cruel fate to be brought into existence against your will and forced to careen uncontrollably towards the end. (Mind you, whilst dealing with what for some is the horror of being alive at all.)

I find it hard to keep quiet about this. It is like you aren't supposed to bring this sort of thing up. You can't tell your parents you think they are selfish for bringing you into this. You can't rage against society for neatly regulating your life's activities until you die.

I'd like to separate my consciousness from my body so I know that I can really exist outside of it. I don't think I'd ever go back. I feel so limited. It would not matter if I reached the heights of what a human can achieve if it is all for nothing.

What also scares me is that the same thing awaits the people I love. I can't believe the people I have such strong feelings for cannot be protected from this inevitable thing looming over all our heads.

This all makes me so unhappy.

/end rambling

There's times when I wished for non-existence, though I'm sure most people feel that way at one point or another.
 
let's face it, the reality is that we are here for absolutely no freaking reason and that's what's so hard to understand. Everything in this world lives then dies, just because we can think doesn't mean we are more important, different, valuable then anything else. No offense to anyone who is religious, but i just think religion is a way to forget this. Every rule about anything is just man made and no can make me think otherwise. Good or bad is just an opinion no different then taste for food.

ok i'm getting carried away but i completely agree with you pookah

There's a mathematical basis for just about everything... It's not strictly man-made rather than just naturally occurring strategies. Even animals have their own laws. You're entitled to your opinion, but I happen to think that there's something beyond non-existence after death.

No one can make you think otherwise heh? So even if the proof is perfect, completely logical to you, you'll ignore it?
 

da_illest101

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There's a mathematical basis for just about everything... It's not strictly man-made rather than just naturally occurring strategies. Even animals have their own laws. You're entitled to your opinion, but I happen to think that there's something beyond non-existence after death.

No one can make you think otherwise heh? So even if the proof is perfect, completely logical to you, you'll ignore it?

well i was talking about every society's laws, not really all the laws that exists. sorry since I didn't make it clear on my post

ok i'm curious to hear what you think/know or found. Obviously i'm just going with my opinions on what I said and don't have anything to prove it but it's only what I feel.
 
well i was talking about every society's laws, not really all the laws that exists. sorry since I didn't make it clear on my post

ok i'm curious to hear what you think/know or found. Obviously i'm just going with my opinions on what I said and don't have anything to prove it but it's only what I feel.

No, I was just asking, if your mind is THAT made up that you'll just refuse to believe anything else, even if there's good evidence that your current position is wrong.

But since you've clarified what you meant earlier, I think I understand what you mean. Sure you don't have to prove it to anyone. You only have to prove it to yourself that what you believe in is beyond reasonable doubt correct. If you feel that, then it's your life! Very few people are really certain on anything... you may be one of the few with great conviction.

As for myself, hmm.. I'm kind of crippled from saying what I really want to say since it's all in mathematics and I may have forgotten some of it (been almost a decade it feels)... lol... getting old.. Anyway, sorry if my earlier post wasn't clear or if it's insulting.
 
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