Death: Becoming nonexistant?

MikeyC

Well-known member
I still struggle with this from time to time. :p I try not to think of it, it expends a lot of mental energy. But I am always glad to talk about it, makes me feel less crazy.
Sounds like you deal with it less, which is awesome.

I had a friend who would really hate discussing this or anything to do with death. She would go red in the face and practically have a panic attack. I understood why, even though it bothers me little or none.
 

Roman Legion

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I don't care about life or death, life sucks and I'm forced to try and exist in a world seemingly infested by the same mon-tracked, knuckle dragging imbeciles.. I am often reminded of Don Draper quotes or Things from Tyler Durden.. I almost got hit by a speeding car the other day and it honestly didn't phase me.. I am ready to die at any moment, I just don't see a reason to care..

"The reason you haven't felt it is because it doesn't exist. What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons. You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one." - Don Draper
 

RonFrank

Active member
So far it looks like the only sure thing to complete feel alright is by being around my girlfriend. She always calms me down when I'm around her. We don't live together so its still a little hard to deal with this.

Also, this kinda sucks because i don't want to become dependent on someone...
 
If a catalyst exists to begin the chain reaction of questioning the answer will inevitably, given enough time, be reached to the extent that it is knowable. At this current moment we are not, with our combined intelligence as a civilized race, able to fully understand the nature of life and death. The question is being asked. The answer will inevitably come as complete as it can be known to be.
You must be content with the answer that the meaning of life and death at this moment is unknowable by ourselves
Perhaps a few extra strands of DNA could have helped?? lol (i recently read that humans at some point has 14 strands (7 pairs) of DNA, but now of course we just have 2 strands, a single twisted pair. So we are in fact "a broken species" as of now. Perhaps with those additional strands we would have been able to comprehend things that we can't now? And most certainly our level of consciousness would have been way higher)

One more thing to add. You've never existed for billions of years, your short time is here then, you will cease to exist once again. It's not so frightening when you consider that you have been in a state of non existence already since the beginning of time
From a more "spiritual" perspective though, the "true" you could have existed for WHO KNOWS how long, countless generations. And looking at the even bigger picture, if WE are GOD, and God had existed "eternally", then so have we???
 

Marlow

Member
So far it looks like the only sure thing to complete feel alright is by being around my girlfriend. She always calms me down when I'm around her. We don't live together so its still a little hard to deal with this.

Also, this kinda sucks because i don't want to become dependent on someone...

It can be scary to depend on someone or to fully give in to a relationship, but you should count yourself lucky to have her. I wish I had someone like that. I used to, but she married someone else and moved away.


Re: Life and Beyond

I think about this stuff a lot. I bet a lot of people do. I can remember as a kid having this intense feeling when I asked myself, "Why are we here?" Even at that age I didn't see any purpose or logic to our existence.

Suicide concerns me only because I am afraid of botching the job and winding up half alive in a hospital bed somewhere. The thought of nothingness after death or even being punished for committing suicide doesn't really bother me. I'd like a chance to scream at some eternal tormentors in the afterlife, actually. I think the worst punishment they could come up with would be to send you back to do it all over again but in an even worse part of the world with much bigger problems.

As far as the pointless daily grind, it wasn't always like this. We seem to forget that. There's always been a challenge to survive, sure. Our ancestors had tough times, no doubt about it. But the whole concept of going to work and watching the clock and waiting for paychecks to pay bills is relatively new for our species. I don't even think people like the Romans had clocks, did they? Sundials maybe. They certainly didn't have strict appointments.

Heck, the concept of retirement is new. People didn't live long enough to retire back then.

Overall I think my biggest gripe about our modern ways is our insistence on saving everyone. People are living longer, the population is getting out of control, and yet we try to save everyone and prolong their lives. I should have died when I was around 4 years old. Even with modern medicine they told my parents not to expect me to make it. And yet here I am. Still. And I feel like I have fallen through the cracks, as if there is no place for me here.

What if by saving people who were supposed to die, we are unknowingly screwing up everyone's destinies by putting these wild cards out there that would have otherwise been removed from the system? People like me that survived when we shouldn't have are literally the walking dead, taking jobs meant for someone else, eating food meant for someone else, etc. If I ever get married and have kids, that's a wife and kids that might have been meant for someone else but because I was saved from dying I was here to get in the way.
 
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