Unemployable with No Job Prospects :(
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nafadda
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lot's of people can not find jobs at this time.perhaps when the economy picks up they will.
in the mean time try and find something else.
i know someone who does delivery at a eatery and makes about 500 a week..thats not too shabby.he loves working there.
one of my nephews who has a 4 yr degree went back and got his masters another 2 yrs and still can't find work in his field..so now he is at Disney..it's a job and it pays money.
no one now a days should expect a college education to automaticaly be a given when it comes to a job with high pay..those days seem to be long gone for now.
in the mean time try and find something else.
i know someone who does delivery at a eatery and makes about 500 a week..thats not too shabby.he loves working there.
one of my nephews who has a 4 yr degree went back and got his masters another 2 yrs and still can't find work in his field..so now he is at Disney..it's a job and it pays money.
no one now a days should expect a college education to automaticaly be a given when it comes to a job with high pay..those days seem to be long gone for now.
Section_31
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My wife has this exact same problem
She has a degree in behavioural sciences with a minor in biology, and a secondary in anthropology with a concentration in primateology. Shes gone to school for almost 8 yrs and cant find anything. At all. Nada. Most places wont even consider her because they dont think they can afford her, shes overqualified, or she'd jump ship when somthing else came along (which is true, i mean, as coyote said, these lower paying jobs arent forever).
She was raised, having drilled into her that having somthing like a walmart job, or a safeway job, or whatever after uni is an embarrassment and a failure (her dads words). She said shes now beginning to realize its not true at all.
The way i see it, like coyote said, you do what you need to do. Theres no dishonor in any kind of job, your making an honest living.
I have no respect for people living off crime, drugs, ect, they cheat the system while us honest people have a hard time scraping by.
Me, i have my highschool diploma, and some IT courses but no certifications, in fact its just my experience of....jeez, 8+ yrs now of fixing computers at staples and slowly clawing my way up that got me to where i am now. Sure, i dont make alot....37 k a yr. But with her doing a lower wage job, just bringing in even minimum wage here, that would still bring us to the point where we could survive.
Were also saving every penny we can, just in case. Were almost the point where weve got 12 months of expenses saved. Ironically, we got this from a book that compares stocking up to survive a zombie apocalypse with finances, LOL. its pretty fun.
Nobody has it easy, but dont ever give up. 3 strikes, and your not out. theres always one more thing you can do.
She has a degree in behavioural sciences with a minor in biology, and a secondary in anthropology with a concentration in primateology. Shes gone to school for almost 8 yrs and cant find anything. At all. Nada. Most places wont even consider her because they dont think they can afford her, shes overqualified, or she'd jump ship when somthing else came along (which is true, i mean, as coyote said, these lower paying jobs arent forever).
She was raised, having drilled into her that having somthing like a walmart job, or a safeway job, or whatever after uni is an embarrassment and a failure (her dads words). She said shes now beginning to realize its not true at all.
The way i see it, like coyote said, you do what you need to do. Theres no dishonor in any kind of job, your making an honest living.
I have no respect for people living off crime, drugs, ect, they cheat the system while us honest people have a hard time scraping by.
Me, i have my highschool diploma, and some IT courses but no certifications, in fact its just my experience of....jeez, 8+ yrs now of fixing computers at staples and slowly clawing my way up that got me to where i am now. Sure, i dont make alot....37 k a yr. But with her doing a lower wage job, just bringing in even minimum wage here, that would still bring us to the point where we could survive.
Were also saving every penny we can, just in case. Were almost the point where weve got 12 months of expenses saved. Ironically, we got this from a book that compares stocking up to survive a zombie apocalypse with finances, LOL. its pretty fun.
Nobody has it easy, but dont ever give up. 3 strikes, and your not out. theres always one more thing you can do.
MikeyC
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I understand you're in Canada but in what universe is my janitorial job earning more than your computer repair job?????
Section_31
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LOL, that made me both laugh good and go "burn!!!!"
its true though. thing is, most IT companies ive worked for are super cheap. Right now my boss is fighting tooth and nail to try to get me a raise to 42 but it isnt optimistic.
If you get certified, they wont pay you what they think your going to ask for or just plain wont hire you. If your not certified but have experience, they milk you for all your worth.
But given the choice between survival and not, id take the second option.
Still, Mikey that made me laugh. your awsome
its true though. thing is, most IT companies ive worked for are super cheap. Right now my boss is fighting tooth and nail to try to get me a raise to 42 but it isnt optimistic.
If you get certified, they wont pay you what they think your going to ask for or just plain wont hire you. If your not certified but have experience, they milk you for all your worth.
But given the choice between survival and not, id take the second option.
Still, Mikey that made me laugh. your awsome
MikeyC
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Oh, I didn't mean, "you're in Canada, har har har," at all, just that dollar values and the economy in general are very different. That's all I meant, sorry. :
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I hope you get a raise to 42, but that's still not even pulling a grand a week, something you're probably entitled to. Still, a $5,000 a year raise is nothing to sneeze at. I hope you get that, mate.
:I hope you get a raise to 42, but that's still not even pulling a grand a week, something you're probably entitled to. Still, a $5,000 a year raise is nothing to sneeze at. I hope you get that, mate.
Section_31
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LOL oh no Mike no worries, all good , i never interpreted it that way all.
your gold sir!
, i never interpreted it that way all. your gold sir!
MikeyC
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Well thank you. :LOL oh no Mike no worries, all good
your gold sir!
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she1slander
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Ok, I'm sure this is supposed to be a serious matter but I just can't help but LOL at your comment here! Times are changing and now it seems like we're living in another universe. I can only infer that dirty jobs would pay more since not many people would go for it unless they know it really pays big. Same with working in a nursing home where you get to feed and clean elderly folks--that kind of job demands more than working as in a fast-food restaurant. It's no surprise though. Times are changing after all. People are getting old and old people are getting older. As far as I know, some people will just grab any job that'll earn them income and only work for a short period of time until they have enough savings to move to a place where their education background will find them the right job.
MikeyC
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As I explained earlier, I didn't mean it that way. Sorry if I offended anyone. :
: I guess I should re-read posts before salivating over the submit button.I agree with the rest of your post, too.
she1slander
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And now I blame humans for creating technology where technology was supposed to be used for good, or whatever its original purpose, because nowadays technology is abused and overused to the point where humans become too dependent. :
: Instead of making our lives a little easier, it's making our lives difficult and complicated. (and now as we speak, the system could fail without any warning...) Gunman, that's exactly why I didn't go for higher degrees - they can be more of a hinderance unless you're working where your employer actually wants you to take the course or might be even paying for it...
Do any zoos over there have any openings? Maybe she could start at a different position and 'progress from there'? It sounds very interesting what she's done, maybe she could start a blog or write articles about this too? Or you guys could move to Africa (where it's cheaper?)
People have gotten jobs by just omitting higher education from CVs though, just sayin'...
OP and others, you can get experience by volunteering etc, also put everything on CV you've been doing (even talking here on forums can count as 'social networking' or 'international communication', no?) Lots of tips about interviews and such online too...
There are tips about career 'gaps' too, some people have had even bigger gaps and still found jobs!!
(It's just about presenting the skills and history, and finding someone who 'clicks' and needs your exact skills & potential!)
There's a blog online that says, 'You don't need a job, you need guts' - And Barbara Sher would probably say, 'You don't need guts, you need backup' (a support team)
Some people have found success in self-employment or starting a biz or such... It's not easy, it has been done though...
Where I live there are quite some private micro businesses/family firms that offer accounting servises etc.
I've sometimes felt unemployable too - haven't found a job worth keeping yet!!
So I thought about 'creating my own' too... to start a biz/NGO or both... it's not so easy though lol... still, if others have done it hmm...?
It's possible to minimize costs of living A LOT - I've done that, LOTS of tips online or in books... lol about the zombie apocalypse...
In the old days, very few people had 'real jobs' and they survived anyway... Things like gardening/growing own food can come helpful... you can't EAT money, right?
So, while you're at home, you can learn new helpful skills, experiment with what you might like to do, or start 'side businesses' or such...?
It used to be a LUXURY to have this much free time!!
It's sad the older generation can be 'unsupportive', they've just grown up in very different times from ours!! (Though Granny said in her time sometimes it hadn't been so easy to find a job either!)
Maybe they just need a 'pep' talk about life & environmental/economical crisis and such? (Or to minimize contact/switch to other subjects? Gunman, does her Dad NEEd to know where she works, or could it be kept vague? She could also be doing 'anthropological studies' of people/2-legged primates in shops, hm? And maybe even write a book about it? A famous author worked in the US different jobs for minimal wage undercover and wrote a book about it!! It got quite known, the book!)
Do any zoos over there have any openings? Maybe she could start at a different position and 'progress from there'? It sounds very interesting what she's done, maybe she could start a blog or write articles about this too? Or you guys could move to Africa (where it's cheaper?
) People have gotten jobs by just omitting higher education from CVs though, just sayin'...
OP and others, you can get experience by volunteering etc, also put everything on CV you've been doing (even talking here on forums can count as 'social networking' or 'international communication', no?) Lots of tips about interviews and such online too...
There are tips about career 'gaps' too, some people have had even bigger gaps and still found jobs!!
(It's just about presenting the skills and history, and finding someone who 'clicks' and needs your exact skills & potential!)
There's a blog online that says, 'You don't need a job, you need guts' - And Barbara Sher would probably say, 'You don't need guts, you need backup' (a support team)
Some people have found success in self-employment or starting a biz or such... It's not easy, it has been done though...
Where I live there are quite some private micro businesses/family firms that offer accounting servises etc.
I've sometimes felt unemployable too - haven't found a job worth keeping yet!!
So I thought about 'creating my own' too... to start a biz/NGO or both... it's not so easy though lol... still, if others have done it hmm...?
It's possible to minimize costs of living A LOT - I've done that, LOTS of tips online or in books... lol about the zombie apocalypse...
In the old days, very few people had 'real jobs' and they survived anyway... Things like gardening/growing own food can come helpful... you can't EAT money, right?
So, while you're at home, you can learn new helpful skills, experiment with what you might like to do, or start 'side businesses' or such...?
It used to be a LUXURY to have this much free time!!
It's sad the older generation can be 'unsupportive', they've just grown up in very different times from ours!! (Though Granny said in her time sometimes it hadn't been so easy to find a job either!)
Maybe they just need a 'pep' talk about life & environmental/economical crisis and such? (Or to minimize contact/switch to other subjects? Gunman, does her Dad NEEd to know where she works, or could it be kept vague? She could also be doing 'anthropological studies' of people/2-legged primates in shops, hm? And maybe even write a book about it? A famous author worked in the US different jobs for minimal wage undercover and wrote a book about it!! It got quite known, the book!)
awkwardamanda
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It's fine to work that kind of a job for a little while until you can make use of your degree, especially if you're already working there during school. But I've been out of school for two and a half years and I'm still working a shatty department store job and it does make me feel like an embarrassment and a failure. I keep putting off even looking for a new job because I have no motivation and I dread it that much. If I was looking and just not having any luck, then maybe I wouldn't feel so bad. But I'm totally ashamed of myself since I'm not even trying. Retail is still better than not having a job, but I dread any time someone asks me what I'm up to and I have to admit I'm still there.:
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LazyHermitCrab
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You are very qualified. You just need to get a handle on your depression and anxiety.... maybe do an internship? Most are paid and sometimes they will hire right after. Try meditation and exercising, whatever.... experiment with things. You can make it, don't give up especially after how far you come. Making the interview a success just takes one confident day, fake it if you have to.
she1slander
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True, true, true. There are some things that money can't replace and that is the skills you've learned and knowledge you've obtained through work experience and school. It's true that back in the old days they didn't really have 'real jobs' unlike nowadays where resources have been so abundant, and education so varied and accessible to most people (at least to those living in developed countries), that job policies are much stricter. When much is given, much is required.
But I totally agree that having free time while unemployed can be a good time to learn new skills.
nafadda
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NYC
The national mean, or average, annual wage for janitors was $24,560 as of May 2010, reports the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. Janitors in the 10th to 25th percentile earned about $16,340 to $18,250 per year. The median annual salary for these workers was $22,210. Top average pay, the 75th to 90th percentiles, ranged from about $28,990 to $37,190.
New York City Salaries
The mean annual salary for a New York City janitor in 2010 was $30,290, which is more than $5,700 above the national mean for janitors. City janitors in the 10th and 25th percentiles averaged $17,030 and $20,590, respectively. Their median salary was $29,390. The top end of the salary range was $38,890 to $45,710. The average janitor salary in the city was higher than the state average, which the bureau reported as $28,880. The bureau reports New York City salary data as part of its New York-White Plains-Wayne, New York-New Jersey Metropolitan Division designation
add the benifits to the deal,paid holidays,overtime,medical dental and vacation.401k..
NOT too shabby!
nafadda
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as far as older people being un supportive because of the times..well I guess the old people that lived during the depresion (I wasn't around back then but just saying),,could really tell people just how BAD things can be ,so I can't buy into the whole unsupportive thing because of the times goes,,all times have seen their fare share of problems,some just more so then others.
I got a young man a job recently at an eatery where I know the owners.He washes dishes,He's 20 and was glad to get the job.He makes me proud to know him and does a great job and very reliable.he is not college material at this time,nor can he or his family afford it right now. and he knows it.He has future plans to maybe one day to the CCCollege thing and become a police officer.In the mean time he is glad just to be working.IMO he will become good at whatever his dreams may be because of his attitude!
I got a young man a job recently at an eatery where I know the owners.He washes dishes,He's 20 and was glad to get the job.He makes me proud to know him and does a great job and very reliable.he is not college material at this time,nor can he or his family afford it right now. and he knows it.He has future plans to maybe one day to the CCCollege thing and become a police officer.In the mean time he is glad just to be working.IMO he will become good at whatever his dreams may be because of his attitude!
MikeyC
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Not too shabby at all...if you're in NYC.