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S_Spartan

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Some days everything seems like it's just the product of the sickness running rampant in people


I think that sickness is called narcissism and it is epidemic now.

It's the thing that makes it hard to form friendships/relationships with people. It's really impossible to have a healthy relationship with a narcissist.

And considering that most people now have at least some of the disorder and it's considered normal and sometimes even healthy...
 

Hoppy

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Ithior

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Good to see that so many young people like me have no f*cking idea how the economy works. They think having a left-wing government is going to be great, much better than what we have right now. Keep in mind that the goverment we have right now would be considered left-wing in the USA, so this actual left-wing government youngsters seem to love is so******t (much further to the left of USA's left-wing party).

I can see this country being economically destroyed in the next years because the measures they have announced are completely terrible. It's like they don't even understand basic maths, let alone economics.

But the youngsters are very happy. Yay, a party that cares a lot about feminism and gays and whatever! I'm sure that in a country where everyone is poor the most important thing to consider when planning the next 4 years is whether or not they will really care about the issues that don't seriously affect anyone. Yeah sure gender equality and no sexual discrimination are important, but that's a change that happens in the society as a whole, it is not imposed by the government. And being an outsider to those movements I can tell that things have been improving for those groups, slowly but steadily (as one would expect, these things don't change overnight, but these people have trouble understanding that).

I'm glad I'm going to have a career in a field where there's shortage of people and good pay. I can't say the same for the rest of the population. Economics and political science should be mandatory in school, maybe then we could avoid disasters like this and have better politicians in the future as well.
 
The worst part of temporarily being very clear headed is that you can see just how much of your life is consumed by a perpetual cloudy mind. What the Hell happened to me..
 

vj288

not actually Fiona Apple
The worst part of temporarily being very clear headed is that you can see just how much of your life is consumed by a perpetual cloudy mind. What the Hell happened to me..

When you figure it out, let me know. :kickingmyself:
 
Being a person that isn't too social while also having a very unique personality, it's really hard for me to express to people who I am. I guarantee that you can ask all the people who have only seen bits and pieces of me and they'll explain to you a different person than the very few people who are close to me.

Also, I have a hard time dealing with bullshit and the types of people who manufacture it. The more extreme side of me comes out when I get caught in the middle of this stuff.

It really saddens me that I can't make this connection with people as easily as others can. Feel like I'm missing out on some really great people.
 

ZenRain

Member
escaping reality??

Many of the social anxiety sufferers whom I have met, or otherwise talked to, are avid fans of media such as video games, anime, books, and television. I myself love all these. Are we escaping reality through these outlets? Do we want to run away to these worlds to escape our real lives? Are we forming misplaced personal bonds to fictional characters? Is it just me?
 

squidgee

Well-known member
Re: escaping reality??

Many of the social anxiety sufferers whom I have met, or otherwise talked to, are avid fans of media such as video games, anime, books, and television. I myself love all these. Are we escaping reality through these outlets? Do we want to run away to these worlds to escape our real lives? Are we forming misplaced personal bonds to fictional characters? Is it just me?

Maybe so, but it's not exclusive to just social anxiety sufferers. Ordinary people can become just as emotionally invested in a TV show character as much as any one of us. As for me, I don't really see gaming and such as escapism, just a hobby I really like. I fully acknowledge my real life situation and know what I need to do to improve it.

Also, I kinda chuckled when I saw your profile pic immediately after reading this a couple posts above.

PugofCrydee said:
I like fish.

eating them I mean.
 

Odo

Banned
Good to see that so many young people like me have no f*cking idea how the economy works.

Usually when people say this, they actually mean 'anyone who doesn't agree with me is stupid'.

If understanding how the economy works was seriously a matter of taking a few first-year economics and poli sci courses, then it wouldn't be an issue.

Alternatively, if these people really are as stupid as you think they are, then chances are the politicians they're voting for are going to break their promises anyways-- politicians who destroy the economy tend not to be re-elected and nobody is going to shoot themselves in the foot.

Social issues are a common strategy used by parties who want to get elected... I would agree that if someone only cares about social issues they're probably a little immature, but characterizing them as such simply because you don't agree with their politics is a classic right-wing straw man.
 

Ithior

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Usually when people say this, they actually mean 'anyone who doesn't agree with me is stupid'.

If understanding how the economy works was seriously a matter of taking a few first-year economics and poli sci courses, then it wouldn't be an issue.

Alternatively, if these people really are as stupid as you think they are, then chances are the politicians they're voting for are going to break their promises anyways-- politicians who destroy the economy tend not to be re-elected and nobody is going to shoot themselves in the foot.

Social issues are a common strategy used by parties who want to get elected... I would agree that if someone only cares about social issues they're probably a little immature, but characterizing them as such simply because you don't agree with their politics is a classic right-wing straw man.


All politicians break their promises, ever since we got a democracy we've had the same two parties rotating in power since there are no better alternatives. The problem this time is that one of these two parties didn't have a lot of votes (because the leader clearly only wants to be prime-minister, regardless of what he has to do to get there, and as such made a fool of himself quite a few times) and it is now going to join forces with the socialist and communist parties.

The reason why I think there should be intro classes to economics and political science is because I had those and I know they significantly changed how I viewed things. It would let people understand basic cause and effect, and if there was time to go deeper we could even teach people public economics (I had this one in college, it explained really well all the schemes politicians do to get votes; I understand that it might be too much to explain in schools though). And basic economics is needed so that people understand stuff like raising the minimum wage means more taxes and that if companies really can't afford higher wages, there'll be more unemployment (which is already pretty high right now).

These classes would make most people realise that communism and socialism don't really work, not in a country with our culture and corruption. Communism doesn't work anywhere and socialism only sort of works in some places with a certain culture and not much corruption.

Political science would be important so people wouldn't be fooled by the media and politicians. Do you know what is the most common insult politicians and commentators use? Liberal. "This government is liberal", "this measure is super-liberal!", "that proposal is ultra-liberal!". Most of the times it is not liberal at all, they simply don't agree with it. Then if the government tries to cut spending, they're labelled as fascists.


Now I call these people stupid because they don't really want to learn. My sister is one of these people. She studied political science, but she knows nothing about economics. That's a dangerous combination because it will often lead a person to defend utopian ideologies, which is the case with my sister. I have tried to explain to her the consequences of certain economic decisions like raising the minimum wage, but she ignores them because they go against her beliefs.

And that's also why I think it is important to teach both subjects at school. If they're not mandatory, most people will just skip them because they're boring. Later in life their knowledge will be based on the crap TV commentators and politicians spew out of their mouths.
I think having those classes could lead to better politicians who actually understand how things work and people would also vote more consciously.

Bear in mind that I don't have anything against people who have different ideologies, as long as they have a good understanding of how that ideology works or might work in practice. I have friends who are very much libertarian, and though I don't agree with them in some points, I respect their opinion and enjoy listening (or reading) their opinions because they are very well founded.
On the other hand, I can't really respect my sister's opinion because she only cares about what sounds good to her.
 

Ithior

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I think that this can be said for all ideologies, that is that there is a perfect idea of it that they are striving for. I think you're right though that some things that people want are misguided due to lack of understanding. Like you can't get upset about minimum wage being too low and then demand taxes be lowered. They raise and fall together, or that's how I understand them (although I've never been great at economics).

I also get the impression that no real system will work correctly if corruption is playing a role, far to the left or to the right. How the corruption manifests just changes. In a more left leaning system, it's the people who take advantage. Grab things they are given when they don't need them. On the right it's the businessmen, who take advantage of their freedoms and lack of checks to keep all the wealth to themselves. I don't think it's the ideologies that are the problem as much as the people within them. Again I'm not very knowledgeable of economics though, I might have the wrong idea.

Taxes and minimum wage don't have to go hand in hand: depends on how many people the public system employs, if there are subsidies dependant on the minimum wage, or if the government has other ways of financing this. In Portugal's case they end up going hand in hand.

Of course no system will be perfect in practice, but I think people should understand the problems that come with the system they defend. I personally don't have any specific system I believe in (I usually like to play the devil's advocate), but I tend to prefer ideologies that defend the State should be small. I understand the downsides of those preferences of mine and I try to find ways to fix or minimise those downsides, a way to balance the advantages and disadvantages.

A thing with ideologies is that they usually start by assuming a certain nature of the humanity. Some assume we are altruist, some assume we are selfish. I personally believe that any ideology that assumes humans are naturally altruists is flawed from the very root. A good system that accounts for the selfish nature of man should take into account the fact that bending the law can be in one's best interests, that is to say a good system would consider corruption. How the corruption manifests would probably depend more on the law itself, how it is enforced and how the justice system works.

Obviously it would be very hard to reach a perfect system both in theory and in practice, but I'd like to see us try to improve our system instead of going in circles every 4 years, which is highly unlikely when only a few thousand people are minimally educated about this.
 
Nintendo is putting out a Wolf Link and Midna Amiibo. I've been waiting for such a thing since they announced the Amiibos. It's great. <3

Kinda wish it was just Midna, though. Because that be perfect to tie my Zelda fanboy-shelf together.
 
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