An answer from the so-called 'good looking'

Deane

Member
I'm new here, and I'm shocked by reading my first article in the forum. Rather than finding support, I see judgment coming from people with the same problem, supposedly! I am deeply offended.

In responding to 'A question for the good-looking' -
the rest of the world doesn't understand social phobia, but I don't understand how YOU don't understand how one's appearance has NOTHING at ALL to do with their phobia. That makes no sense.

Maybe you just have issues with your appearance, popularity, or some such problem rather than this serious mental condition we are talking about.
What exactly is the physical profile of someone with social anxiety according to those confused about this? Are they all clones?

Do you think people who come from wealth 'shouldn't' have this because their life is easier? Do you think educated people 'shouldn't' have this? If only it were that simple.
I will try to explain my point of view.

Being attractive actually makes my social anxiety, which is very severe by the testing I've had, much worse. I do not like being the center of anything. Anything. I do not like being approached when I finally get up the courage to leave my house. I want to blend into the background. I don't glam up, dress outlandish, or anything like that.

If I weren't crippled by this I might have a good chance of finding a
companion, etc. I've tried in the distant past but it just makes me worse.

People judge me and say thoughtless things all the time, like 'Well, it doesn't look like anything's wrong with you'. What am I supposed to look like? Should I change my eye color, not bathe, gain weight, should I shave my head? Wear a sign on my forehead?

I also have a physical back condition, and get told the same thing. Should I be bleeding? Have bones sticking out? The judgment is so ridiculous.
Most disabilities are NOT visible.


For a period early in my life I had gained weight, had braces, and was quite average. I've experienced first hand the difference in the way people are treated when considered attractive or not. I was treated very mean at times, and later, like a queen. That is a sad fact of human life.
I often wonder when a male stranger does something really nice for me how he would've treated me a long time ago.

As I aged I sort of blossomed out of the quirky, goofy look. I am very modest, but sincerely trying to make a point here, so please keep that in perspective? Please don't add more pain to those like you.

For a woman considered 'very attractive' with this condition, it is horrifying when I'm around authority figures, prominent men, or even the grocer. I cringe because they usually will come and talk to me. I may not know who they are but it's a familiar scenario. I hide, I leave, I do anything to avoid the trauma I know I'll feel. Often I don't even remember being there.
So these days, I just don't leave the house much.

I have had relationships far in the past, and have a grown son. I didn't understand my condition then. I fought it; I forced myself to interact somewhat though it made me physical ill. I gave in to friends and family pressure. I'd try and fail, over and over, and feel like such a loser.

Each phase in life brings changes, and with age my social anxiety has gotten worse, so I isolate more. I don't even try anymore.

I constantly hear, even from my supposed therapist, 'Oh, but you're such a pretty girl, you need to get out there'. How condescending. Is my pain less than someone elses? I felt she too judged a book by it's cover, and if she doesn't get it, who is there to help me?

Maybe you should feel MORE sympathy for those considered attractive who have social anxiety. What a cruel ironic hand fate has dealt them.


I don't want to die, but I can't imagine living here in my bedroom, just existing, for so many years to come. It's the only place I truly feel somewhat comfortable, though still anxious. I've been trying, but I can't pick up the phone and join any groups so I'm looking..a little..online.


Just have a heart, and don't judge others so harshly. A lot of these illness' overlap also, and are not so clearcut. Some are in early stages or late. People are reaching out and looking for answers.
 

Azahara

Well-known member
Deane said:
Being attractive actually makes my social anxiety, which is very severe by the testing I've had, much worse. I do not like being the center of anything. Anything. I do not like being approached when I finally get up the courage to leave my house. I want to blend into the background. I don't glam up, dress outlandish, or anything like that.

Exactly! People with social phobia never want to be the centre of attention. Pretty woman (that´s not my case) or good-looking men can also have social disabilities and disorders. Nothing to do with beauty. And, then, it´s worse when people say to you: But if you´re pretty, you´re intelligent....you have everything. They don´t undertsand. Many anorexic people are relly goodlooking but they don´t see themselves as this.
:D
 

ameo

Member
I find your situation difficult to understood because you admitted that you get positive responses, since you look good. Then what are you anxious about? Because I can exactly say what is the cause of my anxiety: the reaction of others.

I guess then you have other sources of anxiety. Maybe you have a phobia about being in the spotlight.
 
I agree with you totally! I wouldn't consider myself sexy or anything but I've been called sexy, hot, good looking, whatever before. The thing is I have SA not because I think 'm ugly or anything, it's because all through elementary school everybody called me annoying and stuff so I eventually stopped talking entirely...On top of being called annoying I got picked on and bullied for being really short and skinny which raped and maimed any self esteem I had. For me it has nothing to do with how good or bad I look...
 

Kamen

Well-known member
Yes, SA is all about being the center of attention and how others perceive the person with SP. First of all, I'd like to say beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. People with SP who (think they) are ugly worry because they think they attract attention by their 'ugliness'. And those who (think they) are pretty are afraid they attract attention by their beauty.
The key is that people with SP simply make up reasons and think others look at them even if this is not true. So, physical appearance may affect the degree of the disorder, but really, it isn't the core.
 
Azahara said:
People with social phobia never want to be the centre of attention.

Best not to generalize, since I can think of at least one social phobic on this forum who says she always wants to be the center of attention.

ameo said:
I find your situation difficult to understood because you admitted that you get positive responses, since you look good. Then what are you anxious about? Because I can exactly say what is the cause of my anxiety: the reaction of others.

I'm average-looking at best, but I can't think of many genuinely bad reactions to me by others. People have as a whole been nice and tried to help me. Anxiety doesn't have to follow rational rules. For some of us, at least, it's not a decision taken. It's an involuntary irrational state of mind.
 

Akira2O

Member
Most girl with SAD are hot ass hell, and also the girls that like silent hill o and the girls that go to porn chat rooms. WTF! I love god.
 
People have different reasons for having social anxiety, whether attractive or not, you can't tell anything about their mental state by the way they look. I can't judge people on that. A big part of my problem is that I believe I am really unattractive, but to tell you the truth, if I wasn't I would still have no idea what the hell to do either way.

However when you say that maybe we should feel more sympathy for the good looking, that is beyond ridiculous. I can't stand it when people think "unfortunately I'm attractive", it makes me so mad. It is A LOT WORSE being ugly. I know I would for sure rather see myself as attractive, but I don't know if it would help or not, my mind would probably still be the same. It would all mean nothing. That's why I can't judge peoples levels of social phobia based on the way that they look. I just feel like better looking people probably have more opportunities.
 
I am sorry that your SA is so bad, but I refuse to feel bad for you because you are attractive. I mean there is no way that being attractive is a bad thing. You even said yourself that people are nicer to you now that you are pretty. Also I think you knowing that you are attractive must give you some sort of confidence out in public. One of my biggest problems is that I can't be out in public because I know people can see how ugly I am. So I definitely wouldn't say that it's worse to have SA and be pretty.
 

littl3misstrange

Well-known member
Do you have any idea how it feels to walk around everyday & feel like a disgusting freak? there is no way that having SA & being attractive is worse than being an unattractive SA-sufferer.

i agree with Psychdelicious...i HATE people who want you to feel sorry for them because they're so attractive. it just makes people like me feel worse about themselves.
 

Livingwithoutlivin

Well-known member
Those people just have anxiety in a different context. Me, I'm not that ugly, in fact I've been told I'm kind of cute. My ex was a pretty ugly guy, but he was hardworking and intelligent and I fell in love for him real hard. I was the one who was not outgoing, who was almost a mute and covered her face in her hairs at the social gatherings. I remember one time one of his friends was saying something that was like a compliment, about how the fact that I date this ugly guy, gives guys like him hope that maybe all girls are like me and would be willing to give an ugly guy a chance. But shortly after that my anxiety go so bad I gave my ex and his friend some ackward experiences. I think that screwed it up for me. I could have been the best looking thing on the planet, but the awful self conciousness that I had was just to the point where I did not want to be looked at. I would probably kill myself if I was so attractive that people would keep starting at me, but then again, if I was so attractive, I would have attracted many superficial friends with big egos who would have been chasing my tail, and never letting go of me for socialization. So there is some truth that they've got it better sometimes.
 

littl3misstrange

Well-known member
people stare at me wherever i go, but i can tell it's not in a positive way, like because i'm attrcative or anything. it's just like, "look at that freak over there!"
 

Reholla

Well-known member
Ahhh, a kindred soul. I am glad you posted, well-put my friend!


ameo said:
I find your situation difficult to understood because you admitted that you get positive responses, since you look good. Then what are you anxious about? Because I can exactly say what is the cause of my anxiety: the reaction of others.

I guess then you have other sources of anxiety. Maybe you have a phobia about being in the spotlight.

Ohhh you think people who are good looking automatically have it easy?? I don't doubt that people "below average" may have self esteem issues due to this-- but people also feel approchable around regular, everyday people.

Try having your own family member say to you, "you cant go off good looks forever.."
thats an insult in two ways. first, he thinks i am shallow and all i care about is looks. second, he thinks i am lacking any kind of personality.

alright, FAMILY is saying that, how do you think people i interact with on a regular basis treat me? I'm like a personal punching bag. Theyre all, oh she can take it, im sure she has this ideal life and people treat her so great just cause of how she looks/she that type. Well, no. Imagine if every one had that mindset.

I am not saying this to say, Oh POOR good looking people, what a rough life! No, not at all. But why do people insecure about their looks pity themselves? Both "spectrums" have people judge them no matter what you look like. THATS WHY .. you treat people as PEOPLE.. not how they look.

Thank you for posting this, you sound like a logical person, im glad to see another one (or two :p) on here.
 
Well why don't you tell me which you would prefer? Being judged for being ugly, or being judged for being pretty. Most certainly the answer isn't going to be for being ugly right? Seriously, it makes me mad. People are going to judge you either which way. It would be GREAT if people treated people as people, but that isn't the truth. You have no idea what feeling ugly every day of your life does to you. I would much much much much much much rather be judged for being beautiful, any day.
 

littl3misstrange

Well-known member
Psychedelicious said:
You have no idea what feeling ugly every day of your life does to you. I would much much much much much much rather be judged for being beautiful, any day.

i completely agree. if any of you so-called "good looking" people suddenly woke up, looked in the mirror & felt horrible about the way you looked, you'd see things a little differently. feeling like a monster every day makes SA SO much worse. you just feel like hiding under a paper bag. if you think you're self conscious already with SA, try having SA & being (or feeling) unattractive. there is no comparison.
 

Generical

Well-known member
This disorder isn't a freaking competition, sa obviously causes a lot of jealousy though. The blindness of thinking that your own situation is a million times worse. We all feel shit about something so we're all on the same level!
 

JonnyD

Well-known member
seriosly, i think most of you are making a big deal of nothing
the guy clearly stated: "I don't mean to be judging people here, I was just wondering why you decided to come and post here, because I honestly don't understand."

so he was looking for an ansewer , for a doubt he has , it's human he doenst know everything.

he just don't understand, maybe because the root of his phobias are being "not that good looking" , as much is mine - and i'm well below the average .

i would be a hipocrat to tell "i do understand why pretty people feel this way" , i can think and logically accept why, but i would never feel like it because i'm not good looking and i won't ever be. Is like i would tell that i know how it feels to be excluded because of my race, i don't know how it feels, althought i respect and think it's wrong.

what i can't be is narrow minded, i can't understand why you feel this way , but i can accept and i understand the feeling itself .
 
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