Do you believe in God?

[kihira]

Re: Do you believe in.....what the heck?

 

[NathanielWingatePeaslee]

you ruin the mystery!

It's not my fault you go posting pics of hairy wolfmen.

Weirdo.

 

[Pookah]

It's not my fault you go posting pics of hairy wolfmen.

Weirdo.

You know it.

 

[Pookah]

Spirituality is interesting. Culturally, etc. Science is also interesting.

Scifi and Fantasy are the best genres EVER!

Life would be boring otherwise, so I'm glad for ppl who believe in god and for those who don't.

Me I'm agnostic and I question everything and incorporate lots of things.

 

[JamieD]

again when you think of god you keep thinking of a singular male entity that looks like Zues the way christians teach it. Thinking its either christians or athiestic scientist only means that you have not been looking everywhere

I know, i was just generalising it. Obviously, i realise that if 'God' did exist, it wouldn't necessarily mean an entity, rather a force/power/matter. But then, where do you draw the line between science and religion? If religion is willing to acknowledge God as a non-entity? (or some kind of god-particle?) Surely that's science?
If science ever answered the big guestion of origin, (or for example, found some kind of atom that could exist without a cause for existing in itself), i'd be happy to at least call it God! lol. I'm leaning towards the illusion theory though, because that way, we don't have to say that anything does/ever has exist/ed. ::

Mind-boggling stuff, really.

 

[JamieD]

Im telling you they have already found that force and harnessed it, it creates complex life where ever there is a suitable environment, its just taboo cause it is excommunicated from the church of science

What, evolution?
I know that religion hates the idea of evolution.
Religion does tend to oppose sensible theories though ::

 

[NathanielWingatePeaslee]

yah they were able to make complex multicell organism in sterile water and sand with a wave

I don't suppose you have a link for that, do you?

 

[NathanielWingatePeaslee]

Ah. Well if you have a link for telepathic pants, then I have no reason to doubt the credibility of your other source. Carry on.

 

[JamieD]

yah they were able to make complex multicell organism in sterile water and sand with a wave

No science has become the new catholic church of the middle ages

Well yea, evolution is a proven thing. As for manufacturing life in a laboratory, that still doesn't answer the question of what created everything.
Because, in a metaphorical sense, what originally created the sand & water used to create that life? :: Brings you right back to a paradox.

 

[JamieD]

all that has been proven in evolution is that the environment shapes the future generation, it does not explain how life works and how it evolves, it just says that environment is ONE of the factors, and people just assume its THE ONLY factor

Well it kind of does explain how life evolves. It's a simple, yet beautiful process- bad genes will not survive to pass themselves on to future generations, and so the bad genes die out, leaving only the successful/useful genes.
For example, bad eyesight, it's hereditary. -5 shortsighted vision wouldn't do ancient man any favours in seeing sabre-tooth tigers coming (or whatever they were in those days). So, the bad gene lets them down, they get eaten, and do not survive to pass that gene on. Simple genetics.

 

[lunarla]

pretty

 

[JamieD]

no im not saying that its not true, Im saying if someone throws a ball down a building, one could say that its the force that the person put on the ball and nothing else, seems intuitive, but no! there is acceleration due to gravity, there is air resistance, there is also gravity getting stronger the closer it gets to earth. its just foolish to say that is the only thing at work here

Well yea, i agree with you there.

I dunno, there's lots of things we don't understand yet.
They're even on the verge of discovering a new particle.
Shows how solid our current understanding of physics is hey?

 

[AGR]

Consciousness is easily isolated. At it's simplest, it can be easily controlled with anesthetic. It can be lost entirely through severe bodily trauma, emotions can be altered with stimulants, personalities changed through surgery, specific functionality observed with brain scanning. There is no doubt that consciousness physically exists in the brain and is supported by the rest of the body. To a very limited extent some of the mechanism is known as well.

That is no conclusion that the origin of consciousness cannot be supernatural, but since you again say it's a matter of complexity I don't understand your point, or why it cannot be an extreme incidence of the complex physical.

I tend to agree with this,just these days I was reading some story about a man who completely changed personality after a surgery,even with an impact one can lose conscience and at that time its like you dont exist at all,at least until now it seems to point to something physical.

 

[mikebird]

I'm a very strong atheist, and I decided that when I was very young, in a Christian school.

In times of severe difficulty - rough life which I can't conrol - eg. at death's door in Intensive Care Unit...

I occasionally wonder if I'd made a bad choice, and if there's a more grand plan for me

 

[Kiwong]

part of justice.

If there is a God, I think it is in need of judging.

What can a punitive God do to torment me, that I haven't already suffered in this mortal life. Anxiety and depression only ten times worse?

If I was an omnipresent being I would create a place where sufferers of anxiety could feel like they belong and finally be at peace.

 

[kihira]

If I was an omnipresent being I would create a place where sufferers of anxiety could feel like they belong and finally be at peace.

If you were our god you'd have us all running triple marathons! :b

 

[NathanielWingatePeaslee]

If I was an omnipresent being I would create a place where sufferers of anxiety could feel like they belong and finally be at peace.

If you were an omnipresent being, you'd also be in my pants. I'm not sure our relationship is ready for that.

 

[Kiwong]

If you were an omnipresent being, you'd also be in my pants. I'm not sure our relationship is ready for that.

Yikes I didn't think of that. Strike the omnipresent.

 

[Kiwong]

If you were our god you'd have us all running triple marathons! :b

You know you want to. Bwahahahaha. The power of being a God is too corrupting.

 

[Pookah]

uhhgg this is why I hate theological arguments, people just dont wana take it seriously and just get distracted

That's because after a while the level of disagreement and actual knowledge comes to a plateau resulting in a wall that is insurmountable and everyone involved just gives up. To take the edge off of any hard feelings or to lessen the suffering of thinking so hard we begin to make light of the whole thing. Its how humans cope.