kihira
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Yes. God, if he/she/it exists, would be the same to us as we are to an ant.
Do you believe in God?
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Yes. God, if he/she/it exists, would be the same to us as we are to an ant.
lunarla
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Well, no. See, the quote is specific, not general...... It's not denouncing every law of physics. A god and gravity aren't one in the same.
You know what else is a word? Boobies. Argue with that. I dare ya. I double dare ya!
Is that a quote by Einstein? It is, isn't it? :B
KnuffleBunny
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Mmm, boobies. <licks lips>
I absolutely do not believe in God. Don't get me started. I appreciate that people feel a need to believe and feel loved by some all-powerful presence, but in reality, the idea of God defies logic, common sense & science.
Let me ask you this.
1) It's common sense that something cannot exist unless it's existence was directly caused by something else. So if there is nothing higher/more superior than 'God' then God cannot exist because there was no before, thus no direct cause for his existence.
2) If, on the other hand, something preceded God, then he is nothing special, as he is not the top/first. Then you might say, then the thing that created God is actually the God.. well what created him? We're back to scenario 1. See? The idea of God, is a logical impossibility, full-stop.
Also, if you're going to believe in something that is unproven, never been seen, heard, touched, etc.. then it's only fair to apply the same logic and assume that- flying pigs, flying spaghetti monsters, fire breathing cats, (and any number of stupid non-existant things), also exist. And we know that they don't exist right? See?
*EDIT: For anyone who says 'Well.. God created science & logic, etc..', well, science is the study of reality, proven & tested things.
Religion doesn't even operate in logic and reality, so that statement has no ground to stand on.
Let me ask you this.
1) It's common sense that something cannot exist unless it's existence was directly caused by something else. So if there is nothing higher/more superior than 'God' then God cannot exist because there was no before, thus no direct cause for his existence.
2) If, on the other hand, something preceded God, then he is nothing special, as he is not the top/first. Then you might say, then the thing that created God is actually the God.. well what created him? We're back to scenario 1. See? The idea of God, is a logical impossibility, full-stop.
Also, if you're going to believe in something that is unproven, never been seen, heard, touched, etc.. then it's only fair to apply the same logic and assume that- flying pigs, flying spaghetti monsters, fire breathing cats, (and any number of stupid non-existant things), also exist. And we know that they don't exist right? See?
*EDIT: For anyone who says 'Well.. God created science & logic, etc..', well, science is the study of reality, proven & tested things.
Religion doesn't even operate in logic and reality, so that statement has no ground to stand on.
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kihira
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Pookah
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So supposing there is no god, in fact ignoring anything like that altogether really....how do we explain anythings existence? What came before space, time, etc? If there has to be a beginning and end how is that even possible? I'm pretty sure its something along the lines of "we have yet to possess the knowledge to answer these questions." Are we in a loop? Or do we really even exist?
Pookah
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Boobies really exist. There's even photographic evidence! ^^
Check my *EDIT in the last post.
But yea, it's pretty interesting, there's the possibility that all this could be an illusion. But something must have caused the illusion. We're back to the same 'square 1' question. I believe it's truly unanswerable. And through the years, religion has just come about as a theory to try and answer it, with no real proof. But it's probably impossible to even obtain proof on any theory of 'what came first'.
But yea, it's pretty interesting, there's the possibility that all this could be an illusion. But something must have caused the illusion. We're back to the same 'square 1' question. I believe it's truly unanswerable. And through the years, religion has just come about as a theory to try and answer it, with no real proof. But it's probably impossible to even obtain proof on any theory of 'what came first'.
Pookah
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Ah but does the photograph really exist? PHOTOSHOPPED!
Well yes, we do have yet to answer that question. And science probably will get near in time. But it certainly wasn't created by a man with a beard sitting on a cloud. ( Clouds weren't even invented at that time :
: )
Pookah
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Well yes, we do have yet to answer that question. And science probably will get near in time. But it certainly wasn't created by a man with a beard sitting on a cloud. ( Clouds weren't even invented at that time :
Pretty clouds in space.
lunarla
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Pookah
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I'd live in space, if I could bring my kindle....and breathe.
To me it looks like a hairy wolfman spreading his arms and flying over something, looking down.
Pookah
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you ruin the mystery!