Impossible to get employment!

Mack_Berserk

Well-known member
Let's face it no one wants to employ a quiet, shy person do they?! Every job description asks for a confident, outgoing person.

I applied for a job online a few days ago and the questions asked whether the person can talk to people, be friendly, confident, outgoing and so on.

I'm screwed aren't i?

You and everyone else here, I'd imagine. I used to do email and Live Chat customer support before I was laid off. I didn't realize how very lucky I was to have that job until after a month of being unemployed.

After 3 months of applying for customers service jobs (mostly call center positions that required great verbal commmuncation skills - which I just don't have), I had to settle for a job that required much less skill, paid much less, and treated its employees like crap - A restraurant position.

It was also 10 times more stressful than anything I've ever been exposed to... And for all those ppl that think exposure is the answer for everyone - It's not. It's several hours a week being forced to meet your worst fear head-on, and then going home depressed that your social skills haven't improved at all (and feel like they never will).

I was fired from that job... I couldn't handle it. I got an interview at T-mobile soon after... That went horribly. Needless to say, I didn't get the job. I'm fairly tech-savvy, but if I can't clearly and professionally communicate a solution to a customer over the phone, I guess it wouldn't make much sense to hire me.

Hang in there, though. There's hope out there. Somewhere.
 

mitchellb999

Well-known member
You and everyone else here, I'd imagine. I used to do email and Live Chat customer support before I was laid off. I didn't realize how very lucky I was to have that job until after a month of being unemployed.

After 3 months of applying for customers service jobs (mostly call center positions that required great verbal commmuncation skills - which I just don't have), I had to settle for a job that required much less skill, paid much less, and treated its employees like crap - A restraurant position.

It was also 10 times more stressful than anything I've ever been exposed to... And for all those ppl that think exposure is the answer for everyone - It's not. It's several hours a week being forced to meet your worst fear head-on, and then going home depressed that your social skills haven't improved at all (and feel like they never will).

I was fired from that job... I couldn't handle it. I got an interview at T-mobile soon after... That went horribly. Needless to say, I didn't get the job. I'm fairly tech-savvy, but if I can't clearly and professionally communicate a solution to a customer over the phone, I guess it wouldn't make much sense to hire me.

Hang in there, though. There's hope out there. Somewhere.

I can never do call center work again. I got to the point that I was hiding beer in a thermos at my desk to deal with that job for 2 years. I'd prefer industrial/manufacturing jobs over customer service, but those jobs are disappearing.
 

Mack_Berserk

Well-known member
I can never do call center work again. I got to the point that I was hiding beer in a thermos at my desk to deal with that job for 2 years. I'd prefer industrial/manufacturing jobs over customer service, but those jobs are disappearing.

Yes, well, I'm 21 and I don't exactly have the best skill-set for my age. I dropped out of graphic design after a year of having straight A's because I couldn't handle the stress. Worst decision I've ever made... but then I've made alot of those in my short life.

I'm going back to college, though. To be a firefighter. It should be interesting.

I sincerely hope you find a job that will alleviate stress and make you happy.
 

Cynic

Well-known member
i've been looking everywhere lately, and i'm like oh cool i can do this job... *Must be, out going with good communication skills* ARGHHH thats on like every single job.. you need good communication skills I HAVE NONE! makes me so mad. But then i think about it and, when i did work i know i was shy but i was good at my job, i did my job i just didn't chat to people i worked with so what, other people were shit and couldn't even do their job, but they did talk so that made them look good, but i'd rather have a shy/good worker working for me then a loud/crap worker. But i'm not hiring people so.. suck to be me. so annoying
The trouble with this world is that image is everything, and substance takes a very poor second place.

For guys, the best type of jobs would be at warehouses, data entry, cooking or even bookstores.
Warehouses tend to be full of rowdy loudmouth types too.

Most jobs are about WHO you know not about what you know.
'tis so true.

Of course, if you have SA then you don't know anyone and are stuck with begging for the most undesirable jobs.
Vicious circle. ::(:
 

Mikefly

Well-known member
Getting a job is like chunking rocks at a can 50yds aways keep throwing the rocks and you'll hit the can.
 

Noca

Banned
one of my worst jobs ever involved kitchen work and i totally understand what you mean richey by pressuring environment. I quit mine after just two weeks though it was full time not just a few days and was absolute hell.

I found that in my job the staff that had been in the job for years got away with all sorts of shite and could stand around chatting but as soon as i did anything the boss would start shouting at me and get on my case and everytime i would try to strike up conversations i was ordered to sweep the floor or do some cleaning.

I was getting paid a load of shite and decided the lack of money wasnt worth all the hassle. theres plenty of better jobs out there and im sure you will find something else.
Ah those kind of jobs, where you're never really done your job until you clean the entire floor and building with a toothbrush. Been there done that.
 
Last interview I thought went fine, but they didn't hired me because I wasnt talkative enough, my friend works there and later after interview he asked why they didn't hired me... It's very hard to find a job these days if you don't have a lot of friends.
 

dpr

Well-known member
Let's face it no one wants to employ a quiet, shy person do they?! Every job description asks for a confident, outgoing person.

I applied for a job online a few days ago and the questions asked whether the person can talk to people, be friendly, confident, outgoing and so on.

I'm screwed aren't i?

I know what you mean, but honestly I think that a lot of the employers ask for a confident, outgoing person because they just want to make sure you're not a drug addict or something.

In reality, there are a lot of companies out there who don't care whether you can interact with your co-workers or not, they just like you if you show up and get your work done. As long as your supervisor likes you, who cares about what anyone else thinks? I have worked in office environments mostly, and there are all kinds of personalities there, including some shy people. In my experience, they are respected as long as they do their work and don't slack off.

The way I look at it, as long as you can get through the interview, and make a somewhat good impression, then it's all good. The interview is like a game, where each question they ask you has a specific answer that they want to hear. And so many of the interview questions are exactly the same from job to job! So even if you answer timidly or quietly, if you give them the answers they want to hear, they will likely be impressed.

It's really ridiculous to play this game, but a lot of people (including confident, outgoing people!) really do not know what answers to give. Examples:

Q. Why did you apply for this job? (Usually the first question asked)

A. Some people would say "I like customer service," or "I need the money," but the company doesn't care what YOU want. You have to say something like, "I feel that my past experience would greatly benefit your company, and based on the details in your ad I believe I could offer a lot to this position." That shows that YOU care about THEM (and that you have read their ad carefully!)

You can also prompt them as you answer this question. Prompting means directing the line of questioning so that you get to elaborate on your skills. So in addition to the above, you could say, "Also I believe that my past experience at ABC Corporation has given me skills needed to handle customers on the phone." This leads the interviewer to ask, "What kind of skills?" Then you list them. This way you take the interview where you want it to go instead of just answering questions like you're talking to a cop or something.

Another big one they always ask is "Do you work better in a team environment or independently?"

It's kind of a trick question. Of course the answer they want to hear is that you can do both! So the answer is simple... "I feel I function well both independently and in a team environment, but if I had to choose one, I would choose working independently since I would be free of distraction blablabla"

Also, another popular one is "Tell me about a time when you had a problem with a co-worker. What did you do to resolve it?"

A lot of people will answer that they've never had a problem with a co-worker which the interviewer will no is BS because everyone has, so you have to say something like, "I once had a problem with a co-worker who was way too bossy. I confronted her politely about it and we worked it out, and eventually we became good friends." Who cares if it's a complete lie? It tells the interviewer that you are able to work out problems on your own, you're not a psycho and that you won't bother your boss with any problems.

There's also two that they pair together. They first ask "Where do you see yourself 5 years from now?" Most people will say, "I want to be in upper management" or they'll talk about their personal life, "I want to have a car and a house and 2 kids" and then the interviewer will follow up with "What about 10 years from now" and the person will reply, "Ummmmmmm..."

So for those, you want to answer directly without going into specifics. Like, "I would like to be working for a company where my skills are being utilized and I feel like I am working to my fullest potential." Then with the 10-year question, "Again, I would like to be working for a company that I feel is the right fit for me, and where I feel that my various strengths and skills are being utilized, etc. etc."

There's actually a bunch of websites with answers for interview questions. It's so stupid that they play this game with potential employees but they want to make sure you the type of person who gives them what they want, ya know?

So if you memorize the answers to typical interview questions, you will get better and better at the interview. And once you've got the job, you can just act how you want to act. Like I said, your employer isn't going to fire you for being shy, unless you work in sales or something that truly requires an outgoing personality. But for most office work, data entry, customer service, call center, warehouse work, i don't think they care as much about your personality as you might think they do.
 

Sinar_Matahari

Well-known member
I wish that the only thing holding me back from getting a job was shyness. It's really difficult to find jobs where I live and it's really ****ing depressing. I don't mind having to be social with people even though I would rather work quiety and for myself.
 

Sinar_Matahari

Well-known member
Why don't you work for yourself, online? I've been doing it for years. You have to be a little proactive with these things - think about the way you are, and realize ahead of time that you're not cut out for a regular job setup.

What exactly have you been doing for years? Does it pay well? I really need some ****ing work.
 

PennyLane

Well-known member
I think it would make sense if someone didn't want to hire me...I have always worked in corporate environments so my SA problems have quite an impact.

I don't communicate as well as others because Im shy
I don't like to use the phone - which is almost impossible to avoid in an office
I don't ask for help as often as I should - for obvious SA reasons
I don't speak up or give ideas at meetings.
I'm not the best at dealing with clients/board members etc
I probably wouldn't progress in the company as they'd hope because I wouldn't want to lead people.

It makes sense to me that they would hire someone outgoing and confident who can do all these things without a fuss.
 

doesit

Well-known member
Update- I recieved another rejection letter this morning.
So what,apply for another job :) call your relatives,speak to parents,put an add in a newspaper that you are looking for job and write down what you would be able to work,like a night security guard or smth,if you dont have experience apply for free courses over the internet or for the weekends,that way at least youll be doing something usefull.
 

Mack_Berserk

Well-known member
I say just keep trying until you get one. The process may be difficult (i.e. filling out all the applications, creating cover letters, stressful interviewing), but the rejection isn't like getting turned down by a girl or anything. Meaning that you can apply at several places at once.

And if you're doing it all online then you can apply for several, several jobs at once.

dpr had some good tips for interviewing as well, though I think an employer for a more profressional customer service position will be looking for more than just the right answers. My interview with T-Mobile involved many more direct questions where two note takers were present. They wanted to know exactly how I would be speaking to their customers, and how quickly and confidently I could deliver the correct information/solution. That was ****ing scary.
 

Qoo

Active member
The interview and job are not the bigger a problem for me than a people and socialize in workplace.
it's alway made me feel embarrass,fear to work,work performance drops,and finally make me want to resign from that place ::(:
 

Pookah

Well-known member
Update- I recieved another rejection letter this morning.

Do you have a program where you are with unemployment getting you additional education towards job opportunities? If I got laid off that's the first thing I'd want to do. Milk the system. :)
 

Emily_G

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Let's face it no one wants to employ a quiet, shy person do they?! Every job description asks for a confident, outgoing person.

I applied for a job online a few days ago and the questions asked whether the person can talk to people, be friendly, confident, outgoing and so on.

I'm screwed aren't i?

I stutter, which in turn makes me shy and anxious sometimes about talking to people. Yeah..it really sucks trying to find a job, esp in today's market.
 

emofree

Member
hmmm for me my problem is getting a job at the call centers or becoming a call center agent I have no confidence or no skills on selling things like that. I've tried applying through it but I have no luck. I think the best job for us would be in the web development or web design or an SEO but I guess there are hardly who knew these kind of jobs thou.
 
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