Did moving (school/cities) cause your SA?

Just curious because now that i think about back when i had terrible SA it started when i moved schools back in 6th grade. before that i was just a somewhat normal kid. and once i moved the SA started to REALLY kicked in.

and after reading a some stories it seems like a lot of people have similar experiences.

anyone here think that moving is what caused (or caused a "downhill" effect) on their social anxiety?
 

WeirdyMcGee

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Maybe it was a factor...?
I've never thought of it as one, though. I was used to moving as a child.
We moved several times a year into different apartments/ low income facilities/ shelters but I was never shy because of it - I actually looked forward to getting to go to a different school because I had a chance to reinvent myself and hope to be able to make a friend; which wasn't something I ever had until highschool.

It's a good point to bring up, though.
An unstable living situation can certainly be hard on anyone and end up causing problems.
 

hoddesdon

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Not in my case. I changed schools before it kicked in without any trouble at all. Overall though, you are right to say that many people have found that a change in environment has been the trigger. They include moving to another country and from a rural area to the city as well as changing schools.
 

Silatuyok

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I'm pretty sure I've had SA since I was a wee toddler. However, I did notice that it kicked into high gear when I left public schools and opted to be homeschooled during seventh grade. When I went back to a (different) real school in eighth grade, I had mysteriously lost any and all ability to socialize in a normal fashion. And I've never regained it, it seems.
 

brainfog

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considering i recently moved to a new city last year around this time, i would say yes. in my old place of residence i'd have friends i could meetup with, here on the other hand, it's just a big lame strip mall with restaurants on either side, students don't seem to be much interested in being friends, and at my age (22) it's kind of hard since most people have already made cliches, kinda like i had back home.

so yes i'd say that not knowing anyone in the area made me stay home a little too much, i have gotten to know a few people from classes and whatnot, keep in touch through texting but nothing significant. just miss my old pals alot, can't wait to get out of here tbh

/rant
 

Flowers-Of-Bloom

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I don't think it caused it, but it was definately a big contributor to SA/AvPD. When I started high school none of friends from primary school went to the same campus as I did, so I was all alone. I was so nervous and barely made any 'friends'. Their were a lot of nasty girls in my grade and my 'friends' weren't very nice either. If I had've gone to highschool with one of my real friends I probably would've been able to make it through. But that didn't happen, so eventually I dropped out.
 

razzle dazzle rose

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I actually would have liked to have moved. We stayed in the same house all the time...still in the same house. I would have liked a change of scenery and a chance to "start all over again". Of course, I am only assuming things here.
 

OceanMist

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I've lived a couple different places. I was always my same shy self. I'd have problems everywhere. It's me that is the issue, not my location. I've learned this about myself over the years.
 

EscapeArtist

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I've posted 2 threads in the past about this because I'm positive that's what contributed mostly to my SA and depression. Had a great life in Oregon, great friends and family and people were so friendly, move to Canada after 4th grade, lost a bunch of friends, friend's mom who felt like my second mom, and I lost the elementary school, best place in the world in my books. I felt a deep connection to the teachers, the studies, the students and friends. The only atmosphere I can call a 'home' even now. Children here in canada are cold with exclusion (in the elementary I went to at least). It was a total 180, the kids were so different here it was a real shock to my system. They were trying to grow up too fast, judgmental and the teacher told my mom I was "nothing special". Before this, teachers were like parents to me. The move broke up the whole family. Sad to say I'm still not over the loss of Oregon and how my family was there.
Also moved about 13 times from the time I was born to the age of 5. I don't know if that installed some kind of perma-unsafe abandonment-outsider feeling or not. I also remember a really bad move was from Winnipeg to Oregon, where I lost a friend that I was really close to. But Oregon was the worst, still feels like my home somehow.

Would love to hear your story

Also if you look up moving and social anxiety, I remember some studies came up with the two being connected


"Post Traumatic Stress Disorder in children can also be triggered by a traumatic move. A key component involved may indeed be a feeling of powerlessness, and an absence of a sense of safety. (Steele and Raider 2002). When families must move because of a traumatic situation, the adults often are ill equipped to respond to the child’s emotional needs. Oftentimes, parents underestimate their children’s feelings (Bruce, 2003). Leonard Jason, psychology professor at De Paul University, states, “Most parents are pretty insensitive. They don’t understand the child’s point of view.” Because the parents may be undergoing their own stress related to the move, many issues evolve; the child may feel powerless, alone, fearful, angry and afraid to ask for help, or share their feelings, for fear of worrying the adults in their lives even more. If they see their parents crying, arguing, or simply stressing over the basic inconveniences associated with moving, they may interpret their parent’s behavior as being their fault. This is especially true with younger children.

Facts for Families (1999) indicate that studies show that, “children who move frequently are more likely to have problems at school.” The Orlando Sentinel, reports that “Students who change schools often are more likely to fall behind in reading, because they miss lessons in the march from school to school.” They further indicate that, “As many as one in three students in Central Florida switches schools during the year,” according to the most recent data available. (January 8, 2003). Florida is not alone in statistics such as these. Greg Lindberg, who compiled the data involving schools states, “What does seem to be quite clear is that moving really negatively affects the attendance, which profoundly affects the test scores.”

Sometimes children who kill are children who had to move to a new school, or to a new state or neighborhood, resented it and lacked the social and coping skills to adapt and “fit in.” Children can experience, “fear, the pain of separation, and other anxieties like adults” (Fullton, 2002). The “new kid” syndrome can lead to bullying, ridicule, outcasting as well as physical abuse from other kids. For example, on March 5, 2001, Charles Andrew Williams, a 15 year old, shot and killed two students at his suburban high school in San Diego, California. Williams was said to have tried to “fit in” at the 1,900 pupils Santana High School after moving to California the previous year from Maryland. (Gun Violence in America, Guardian Newspapers Limited, 2002)"


"There is great concern that the negative effects of moving on children are due to a loss of
social capital after moving (Coleman 1988). Social capital, according to Coleman (1988, 1990),
refers to those relations between persons or within communities, which, like economic or human
capital, may be used to foster skills and capabilities of children. Residential mobility, Coleman
and others have argued, disrupts social capital by breaking ties between parents, children, and
other members of a community. ."

Haven't really read this but just found it and the title is interesting : http://crcw.princeton.edu/workingpapers/WP98-04-Pettit.pdf

I also remember reading that moving is very stressful on introverts specifically
 
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Ravens

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My Dad was in the army so I got used to moving, but I spent most of my childhood in Germany in British service run schools. Was never a lot of fun moving, but it wasn't until my Dad was close to leaving the army after his 22 years and we moved back to the UK where I had my first taste of a public school (would have been about 12 at the time). That was a bit of a culture shock, no doubt about it. Discipline was practically non-existant there and the idiot teachers put me with a guy I had nothing in common with and was constantly getting into trouble. Me being a bit of a teachers pet in the past... well it wasn't a good fit and it didn't take long for him and his buddies to cotton on and try to ditch me whenever they could. Fortunately I never really got bullied exactly but for the 6 months I was in that high school I never really developed any friendships, just kept my head down. I was shy before but I think I became properly introverted from then on. The curriculum was completely different too, so I fell behind and eventually with everything going on, didn't care that I wasn't learning well any more.
Couple that with my parents very nearly splitting up, I don't doubt that had a big effect on me. Probably pushed me from merely being shy and quiet to phobia territory... definitely made me miserable and I haven't seemed to recover all that well since.

I moved again and it was better in the new school although I repeated the, 'in with the wrong crowd who try to ditch me group' again. But at least there I made some actual friends later on.

Does make me wonder sometimes how things might have turned out differently...
 
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razzle dazzle rose

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I've lived a couple different places. I was always my same shy self. I'd have problems everywhere. It's me that is the issue, not my location. I've learned this about myself over the years.

I have read that you can't escape your problems or yourself. I agree with that. It just would have been nice to have experienced other places. I should add that I hate this house and this neighborhood. Since I was a little girl it was my dream to move away from here...and I am still here! Joke is on me.
 

Deus_Ex_Lemur

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It exasperated my SA yes, changing schools. Being forced to live at home again did too. Definitely didn't cause. Problems will follow indeed changing locales won't fix! But I do believe you can better equip yourself to quash and slay and deal with them in different environments depending what/where/what situation is.
 
Didn't cause my SA, but definitely I can mark an important turning point in my personality that occurred the year that I moved to a new neighborhood, and into a "house" for the first time when I was 10. While I was very excitedly anticipating moving from our 2 bedroom complex to a big place where I'd have my own bedroom, I would also be changing schools and moving away from numerous neighborhood friends that I had. I was shy as a child, which usually was noted by people, but I was still able to accumulate many friends when I was 6-9 and pretty much be a functional kid who got out. Didn't realize how much of that would be changed by our big move.

I changed schools to one that was closer to the street, then changed again one year late due to graduating up to middle school. That may have been where it really started to get hard. I lost contact with all my old friends and wasn't really making new ones, and the changes that came with being in middle school (where I was also taking the bus for the first time, since middle schools weren't as close by as elementarys) were unexpectedly overwhelming. I think I found a lot of sanctuary from this flood of changes in my new bedroom. It was the only new thing in my life that I was comfortable with. I enjoyed it so much, that it gradually took me away from other parts of the house, to the point where "outside of my room" was rarely an option where it wasn't forced (school). I never really recovered or got away from this for the rest of my time growing up.

Our family even moved one more time when I was 16. We were back into apartment living, and closer to our old environment and schools didn't need to be changed. A tiny part of me did wonder if that could be a chance to reboot and "start fresh", but the rest of me knew it wasn't happening. At only 16, it already becomes harder to start up seeking friends.
 
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