would you rather date a girl who..

lunarla

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Probably average looking with low self esteem isn't going to be anyone's first choice, ha. I should work on that.
 

Deus_Ex_Lemur

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Probably average looking with low self esteem isn't going to be anyone's first choice, ha. I should work on that.

Yeah work on your self-esteem, the other you don't need any work on ::p:

:/ Ah yes, didn't think of that one. Hmm.

Ditto. =)

Really tho I can see for "most" guys confidence IS less, plus just culturally confident woman may threaten a guy's manhood. Silly thing imo but yeah I know my Dad feels that way and it's annoying, pretty sexist.
 

coyote

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which one of them is most interested in me?

that's probably the one I'd want to go out with
 
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Beatrice

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Really tho I can see for "most" guys confidence IS less, plus just culturally confident woman may threaten a guy's manhood. Silly thing imo but yeah I know my Dad feels that way and it's annoying, pretty sexist.

Yeah I just mentioned this to someone when I was talking about it just now. That overconfident women may come across as threatening, or, at the very least, annoying.
 
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I would think this would be the case as well.

But I have seen guys who have said one of the top things they look for in a girl is confidence. It was in one of those stupid girly magazines though, like Cosmo or something. Probably written by an ugly overly-confident woman :p

Well there might be a lot of guys that do feel that way honestly. Probably because a big problem you might run into with a girl with confidence issues is unnecessary drama. For example, she always think you're going to leave her for someone else and bothers you about it every minute. I know a guy that has a GF like that and she hounds him constantly, they were just out eating one time and the waitress was being too "friendly" to him and she blew up when they got home haha.
 
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I agree with Nate and Vamp and I think the question is very wide and relative... To me the image reflected by the statement "very attractive with self esteem issues" evoke someone mysterious, withdrawn but interesting, with a lot to discover from. The average one with loads of confidence sounds uninteresting to me. On the other hand, the average one with self-esteem issues still sounds more interesting to me than the attractive one with loads of confidence. So I think this question is kind of irrelevant and badly formulated. It's all a matter of personnality in the end, and the personnality doesn't stop with the look and confidence level....

I also have to agree with this statement the most.
 

Shant

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This isn't even a competition. looks-wise is already established and thus isn't worth getting into, and as for personality? The one with low self-esteem needs someone to convince them they have value - and more often than not, I think I would get along with them much better than the other snob. I've had it with narcissistic-amazing-confidence people after dealing with my father. Although possibly I'm interpreting this differently than intended.

I guess looks are actually more or less irrelevant to me. And as far as the personality goes, it's not like I would seek out the low self-esteem one just to be the one in control or anything like that - I'm disgusted with that motive.

Come to think of it, dating and love is beyond me, I never really cared for the topic anyways and I don't intend to fall in love with anyone anytime soon, so why am I even posting? Hehe.
 
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mozart87

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I would date both of them to see with which one I can build some chemiestry with:p
The average girl can also become hot with some confidence and work;)
 

MsBuzzkillington

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I am kind of shocked to hear that so many people would go after the really attractive girls with no self esteem. I guess that makes sense that even though lots of girls have a ton of issues, as long as they are beautiful it doesn't matter. I have always felt like if I was beautiful I could get away with anything; I could be as depressed or mean as I wanted and I would still get attention. I guess I am right about that.

I mean taking into consideration all the attention the beautiful girls on here get despite there complete lack of self confidence, I should have known.

To me, low self confidence is a huge turn off. Do you like me? Am I doing something wrong? Do I look okay? Are you sure? Are you having fun? are you sure? Are you sure I am not bothering you? Blah blah blah.

Confidence is a HUGE turn on. When someone can be really happy with themselves and not afraid to express it and be who they are in front of anyone... that's so awesome. It can make an average looking person become extremely sexy.

It's not... fair. I guess gaining a lot of confidence isn't going to help me. According to the majority here, the ugly girls are doomed. To be honest, I am a little disappointed.

Also, I think the "I want to help someone I like become more confident with themselves" isn't going to work. The 100s of guys who came before you and told them they were beautiful didn't change anything, you won't either.
 
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Honk

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Confidence is a HUGE turn on. When someone can be really happy with themselves and not afraid to express it and be who they are in front of anyone... that's so awesome. It can make an average looking person become extremely sexy.

I totally agree.
 

Deus_Ex_Lemur

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It's too black and white ppl are viewing this question too rigidly. Physical attraction GROWS or LESSENS with the personality which includes confidence and low-self esteem. This is chemically proven not just an opinion =D Nor is each case of confidence or low-self esteem the same. Not all self-esteem issues = clingy.

But anyways... again tho Buzz most girls imo feel that way, confidence is huge, culturally for guys still narrowed to looks for a lot. We have wee wee's that think for us many times. But really it does go beyond that.
 
Confidence is a HUGE turn on. When someone can be really happy with themselves and not afraid to express it and be who they are in front of anyone... that's so awesome. It can make an average looking person become extremely sexy.

It's not... fair. I guess gaining a lot of confidence isn't going to help me. According to the majority here, the ugly girls are doomed. To be honest, I am a little disappointed.

You're being just as judgmental by saying confidence turns you on.
I guess all guys who are not confident are just as doomed as girls who aren't attractive.
According to you.
 

Mickery

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I can look at a person's picture on the forum and make a judgement in seconds about how attractive they look. If I want to know how attractive their personality is, I gotta keep reading their posts through the good and bad until I get a decent idea. That people latch on quickly to appearances is nothing to do with shallowness or laziness, it's just the practicality of it.

By the way, am I right in thinking these aren't quite equal? HIGH looks versus LOW self esteem versus MIDDLE looks and HIGH confidence. if you're playing the stats, average girl evens out better. I'm not able to answer the question. I reckon it's possible to make some pretty good generalizations... not this time.
 
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coyote

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looks are totally subjective anyway

what someone else may find as "average looking," I may find as highly attractive

besides, in real life, the person you end up approaching is completely relative to the situation

it's not like there's two girls standing side-by-side in a store window, and you point to the one you want

although, i did go to a place in thailand like that
 
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