Scared...

Peur

Member
I truly hope this is the right forum to be posting this in, if not, I sincerely apologise.

Onto the situation.. (will try to keep it condensed)

Two Sundays ago at a family party, my cousin brought her schoolmate that I haven't seen in a few years. She's twelve, will be thirteen this year, and was *quite* clingy to me throughout the party; She'd say some very provocative things to me when we were in the pool, and when some of us were in my room, she wouldn't let me sit anywhere else but beside her on my oversized chair (lest I get punched somewhere), etc. . Two days later, my cousin was back over because my mother babysits her, and her friend was with her for the week, so she came back too. I slept til 2:30 PM out of utter fear and anxiety from Sunday, heh.. So then, the next day is the big one... I got up around 9 AM, had my food and stuff, and went about my normal online activities, until my cousin and her friend knocked at my door, and I let them in of course (I won't be dishonourable). My mother had to take my cousin's little sister to the doctor, leaving me to watch my cousin and her friend while she was gone, so obviously I was a bit anxious again. Well, they came in, my cousin wanted to use my computer, so I let her, and her friend plopped down in my chair, on the right side, and I went over and sat on the left side, next to her, as had become usual by this time. My mother was gone about 2 hours or a little more, and we all three spent that time talking and laughing, me getting (affectionately) kicked, punched, wet fingers stuck in my ear (lol), and not to mention my right arm getting sucked as to leave three love-bites, haha! (I had, and have, no complaints, she obviously wanted to show her liking for me, as my cousin told me later when just us two were alone for a few minutes). I ended up getting two cheek kisses, as well as her phone number entered into my phone, so she could message me. All of this I obliged to without a qualm, because by now, I had become comfortable with her, and I like her very, very much, and highly respect her.

But now, the problem is that she called me her "boy toy", and we had a picture taken together by my cousin, with her friend pressed up against me, around around my shoulders, and her in a bikini bathing-suit (ever so provocative), and she said if her other "boy toys" saw it, they would be "SO jealous!" - and she seemed very amused at that thought. Keeping to the point here, she also called me her friend on that 3rd day she was over, and I later confirmed this by asking her in a text message the day later. I am now feeling scared because what if she ever talks about her other "boy toys" around me, and I get jealous?... What if she gets bored with me and loses interest? But that would not happen, right, she said I'm her friend. My cousin goes on and on about how very much her friend likes me. I just want to know there is a person I know in real, offline-life that would call me out as a friend...

This dear, lovely girl.. She makes me feel like a person of the world... I've always felt like I'm in my own solitary existence, watching the world go by through a window. But this fair girl, she makes me feel as if she has broken the window, taken me by the hand, and pulled me into the mainstream world, where people have friends, get hugs, feel loved, and are accepted by peers. I'm just scared that she might be so enthralled by me one day, and I'll be forgotten about by her.

P.S. I will be 19 soon, and I know there is a six year age difference and I don't care at *all*! I won't be having sexual encounters with her, so I don't care if she is 12, I don't care a single iota.

Feels good to get that out...
 
I think you will need to be careful with this. Although you enjoy the company etc. You do need to keep in mind that she (at 12) is still a child and you are an adult.
 

Peur

Member
You're certainly right, I must never at all forget that, and I'm fairly confident I can always remember. But it's the company, as you say, that's what I so enjoy from her. To be liked and accepted so much by her, it all amazes me.
 

panicsurvivor

Well-known member
Whoa, huge red flag!!!!!!!
A twelve year old calling you her boy toy?
If you insist on staying friends with her, you need to be VERY CLEAR with her right away, that you are NOT her boy toy!!! You are not her boyfriend, nor are you going to be. This can get you into all kinds of trouble.:eek::eek: You can get into legal trouble, you can hurt her feelings, you can seriously piss off her parents. If she starts to get a crush on you or already has, I strongly suggest that you stop messing around with this at all. Despite you feeling happy that someone is paying attention to you, a twelve year old girls feelings are not something to be played with. A girl that age is plagued with feelings and desires that are simply to big for her. This is such a volatile time for girls. To many times, girls that age have their lives complicated by guys that are older. Whether their intentions are good or bad, the girls lives never benefit from these guys. You say you have no intention of sleeping with her. That is good. Right now you are in a confused space with this girl, your intentions aren't bad, but your on a fence between right and wrong. Cross that fence, and there will no longer be any confusion about it, if you know what I mean. Honestly....... if I were you I would not only walk away from this situation, I would run!!!!
 

Section_31

Well-known member
I have to agree with PS...

Its one thing if your say, 29 and shes 17 about to turn 18, somthing like that....that at least would have a chance of working. but honestly i cant see this having any kind of good ending for you. Your feelings may be there, but they cloud the logic of this situation. It becomes difficult to do the right thing.

You need to think of the scenerios. You say you have no intention of a sexual relationship. Lets be real, your a man, shes a girl whos about to start developing if she hasnt already, and things happen. We never mean for them to happen, but they do, and if you guys had sex some night, oh man, her parents could ruin your life.

I dont mean to come as an @$$, or someone who pretends to know it all, but Peur, in this case, you really need to step back, and tell her your flattered, but she needs to find someone her own age. Your not closing doors by doing so, who knows, maybe you guys will meet again when shes 18 or older...but for now this really is NOT a good idea!
 

Lowlight

Well-known member
Correct me if I am wrong but are you saying that other people your age in you life aren't as affectionate as this girl. If so it sounds like you are starved for emotional interaction to the point that you are having to get it from this child. As panicsurvivor said a girl really isn't in her right mind at that age, and you could be warping her sense of what relationships are about. I would completely back away from this man.
 

coyote

Well-known member
or....

keep fooling around with her, get caught, go to prison

and have a very nice social life there
 

WantToHide

Well-known member
it sounds like you are starved for emotional interaction to the point that you are having to get it from this child. As panicsurvivor said a girl really isn't in her right mind at that age, and you could be warping her sense of what relationships are about. I would completely back away from this man.

Well summed up. I absolutely understand that if you feel like the world has shut you out, and you see a door into 'normality', you badly want it. But that child can't be your door. You need to find someone else.

Perhaps it was easier for you to get feelings for her because she did all the work and you passively accepted her attention. There was no chance of rejection as you were getting all the attention without having to be vulnerable and put yourself out there. Maybe its time to go and seek the 'normal' world through adults who you choose, rather than just accepting the first person (however inappropriate) who shows you affection.
 

Lccska

Well-known member
Yep, all these guys are absolutely correct. As a Mother, I would not only come after you, but I'd send the Dad too. You're looking a jail time! (actually, my ex-husband would do some serious bodily damage to you, and I'm serious!). Delete her from your phone and don't EVER consider returning to her "affections". This is absolute TROUBLE.
 

Peur

Member
Lotta replies here, haha, guess I shouldn't be surprised though! I don't see any of anyone's comments on here coming off as hostile, or anything, so don't worry about that, I understand you're just giving your advice, and that's what I posted this thread in hopes of. Her parents never had a problem with me before, and she and myself both know there are of course lines not to be crossed because of the age difference, and I personally don't ever, ever see that being a problem. It's just so very nice to know I'm a friend to her, and the other way around. To feel liked so warmly by her, the affection is so heartwarming, it is amazing. I can understand backing off, and why you all say I should, but then, what am I backing off from? My mother has no problem with us as long as I don't like her in.. that way; which, of course, I do *not*, and could/would not. Should I really back off from a friendship, simply because that friend is a few years younger than me? I'm not trying to be offensive, just genuinely asking :)
 

WantToHide

Well-known member
You're pretty new to the forum, and I don't want you to feel that you come here and everyone sits in judgement telling you that you're bad and wrong. It must be pretty crushing when you have feelings for someone and everyone's telling you to stay away from her otherwise you face a prison sentence. It might feel like we're not being very supportive!

So firstly, I'd like to say welcome, and that people are pretty caring here and they generally want the best for each other. It's just that this is a difficult topic and on this occasion there is clearly a black or white answer. I think people are posting 'stay away' type comments because that really is the only solution and not because we don't like you or because we are sitting in judgement of you.
 

Peur

Member
Thanks for the welcome, WantToHide. I don't feel you all are sitting in judgment on me, not at all :) You are here to post your feelings and advice, and I'm not averse to any of the comments made.
 

panicsurvivor

Well-known member
Legal problems aside. Parents aside. This girl must not think that you are her boyfriend. Period. Like I said in my first post, you have to be clear with her right away. She can NOT think that something is happening or is going to happen. I am speaking for her. Not her parents or the law. Do not mess around with her!!!!!! If you are going to be friends, don't let there be any misconceptions. I still think you should abandon this entirely, just because it seems pretty likely she will get hurt no matter what you do. But at least if you are clear and honest, it won't be quite as bad.
 

Mickery

Well-known member
she and myself both know there are of course lines not to be crossed because of the age difference, and I personally don't ever, ever see that being a problem.

Lines are already being crossed and neither of you know it. That is a big problem and you cannot address it. This absolutely must go nowhere, even with innocent intentions.
 

Lccska

Well-known member
After my initial Knee jerk reaction,which was "stay away from my daughter or I'll kill you", you have to realize that this is a girl and you're a man. Even if you have no sexual intentions toward her at this time, you will have some soon. THAT is going to get you in trouble. If she calls boys/men her "boy toys", she is at least a little too sexually advanced. The best you can hope for is a bad reputation for stalking little girls. Your not emotionally a 19 year old, but you are so in age. As a parent, I can't say this enough, stay away. She is absolute trouble for you. I'm not in any way trying to be mean to you. I'm very concerned for you. This can ruin your life.
 

coyote

Well-known member
Lotta replies here, haha, guess I shouldn't be surprised though! I don't see any of anyone's comments on here coming off as hostile, or anything, so don't worry about that, I understand you're just giving your advice, and that's what I posted this thread in hopes of. Her parents never had a problem with me before, and she and myself both know there are of course lines not to be crossed because of the age difference, and I personally don't ever, ever see that being a problem. It's just so very nice to know I'm a friend to her, and the other way around. To feel liked so warmly by her, the affection is so heartwarming, it is amazing. I can understand backing off, and why you all say I should, but then, what am I backing off from? My mother has no problem with us as long as I don't like her in.. that way; which, of course, I do *not*, and could/would not. Should I really back off from a friendship, simply because that friend is a few years younger than me? I'm not trying to be offensive, just genuinely asking :)

don't fool yourself

everything you described in your first post clearly indicates that there is sexual interest - on both sides

the touching, flirting, kissing, etc.

would you be ok with a 12 year old BOY wanting to do those things with you?
 

Steppen-Wolf

Well-known member
Oh man, that's a difficult situation.

I'm sure you just like the affection and attention even if it comes from a child, but it's too risky even if you don't have anything but good and decent intentions.

It must be hard for someone with SA to voluntarily get away from any form of affection, but in this case that's just by far the best thing you can do.
 

Rembrandt Broam

Well-known member
Lotta replies here, haha, guess I shouldn't be surprised though! I don't see any of anyone's comments on here coming off as hostile, or anything, so don't worry about that, I understand you're just giving your advice, and that's what I posted this thread in hopes of. Her parents never had a problem with me before, and she and myself both know there are of course lines not to be crossed because of the age difference, and I personally don't ever, ever see that being a problem.

Actually it's quite clear from your original post that she doesn't know there are lines not to be crossed. But that's because she's a child. You're not, but the fact that you're encouraging this relationship suggests that you don't know it either.

As others have said, this is a clearly inappropriate relationship which can only ever have a bad ending for both of you. You really need to end it, and end it now.
 
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