RACE REJECTION

[sux2bme]

I think your focusing to much on ur race,for some reason u seem to be making a huge issue out of this, there might be other reasons why ppl stop talking to u on msn etc maybe coz of ur avpd u feel like u need a reason why u feel like u do and blame ur race and if ppl r racist then surely they are not worth bothering with in the 1st place?at the end of the day we are all the same underneath i think u should be concentrating on dealing with ur problem rather than looking 4 a "chick" maybe when u come to terms more with ur avpd u will find it easier to accept urself easier said than done i know im not having a go i just dont think u should want 2 bother with ppl who dont want 2 bother with u just coz ur asian!

i KNOW some reject cos of my looks and race, cos they only stop talking to me once i show them a pic.

 

[testobot]

the other night i was walking back home from work, it was pretty late and dark and i walked past this house where there was a party going on. anyways this young white guy was outside the house and as i got nearer and nearer i realised he was staring straight at my eyes with a mean look. I kept looking at him,and i wasnt going to do anything till I passed and he made this "GRRR" sound at me. All my pent up anger and hate just came out and I went to his face and yelled "WTF IS UR FKN PROBLEM??!!".
I was ready to kill him seriously.

He instantly backed off, and made some lame excuse.

I can't blame you for feeling like exploding. I once had this guy at a gym make a big 'wooof' sound (like a loud dog barking) directly into my ears as I walked past him to get some water. There was nothing that I could do or wanted to do-- he was about 6 feet '5 and looked like he had been pumping himself up on steroids all his life. I wonder why people do such fucked up and mean things sometimes- I think this guy was trying to impress the girl he was standing next to. It had nothing to do with race, because eventhough my father is a non-european US immigrant.. I still appear white for the most part.

 

[missquiet]

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[Harleyq]

I'm Asian too..well, half. I don't really face rejection because of my race anymore, though I used to when I was little. Actually, I've been rejected by other Asian people more often than I have by other races. They find out I don't actually speak their languages and suddenly they don't wanna talk to me anymore, lol. My highschool has a lot of Korean immigrants and all the Korean students had their own little clique that I just didn't fit into. I think it depends on the area you live in. Some places are just more tolerant of certain things than others.

 

[Mikefly]

I don't think it matters what race you are it sounds more like insecurity by SA, not your race. Who cares about little cues from people that's their problem , im white and i don't fit in and i get "go to hell looks" all the time , it just don't bother me anymore after i've experienced it so long but in my opinion it's not a racial issue.

 

[Sinar_Matahari]

My friend used to live in Australia and she told me that a lot of Australians are in fact racist. She's half black and said she used to get a lot of shit while she lived in Melbourne. Actually, my Assyrian friend who used to live in Australia (not sure what part) said the same. I hear that they call Greeks, Italians, Spaniard or any dark featured people "Wogs". I sort of had a strange encounter with a group of Australians myself while I was in Holland. My senior class took a trip to northern Holland some years back. Two of my classmates and I rode our bikes to the beach where we were approached by a group of Australian guys. One of them gave me a dirty look but smiled at my white friends. They had asked us to join them and of my friends decided it was a good idea. I went along because I wasn't trying to get lost on my way back to the hostel.
While my friends chatted with the guys, I was being ignored. Then one of the guys asked me where I was from. I was already uncomfortable and I'm hesitant to say that I'm American since everyone likes to hate Americans, but I say that I'm American (to make a long story short) He says, "Don't worry we don't discrimminate against other people." It sounded like he was being a prick. Needless to say no one spoke to me for the rest of the evening.
Is it possible that people in Australia are just more open to racism? I mean, they don't make a big deal out of it. This is how things are in Germany. There really is no political correctness and if someone says something racist then people either ignore it or laugh. I've been called "damned slit-eyes" by an middle aged German woman. I think she was a bit crazy in the head though. The only person who looked shocked was an African girl. The Germans didn't care but who is going to reprimand and old woman?
Some old man was fined for yelling something racist at a young woman and her children. Apparently, he was mad because her kids were making a fuss about something. He then yelled at her, "You should all be gassed!" There was an off-duty Polizei on the bus. He halted the bus and had the man arressted. The old man got off with a fine.

This is just how things are though. You'll find good people and you will find assholes.

 

[Remus]

Never knew it was like that in Australia :/

pretty much cosmopolitan where I live but I guess the brits have always had immigrants going back to roman times, to me it adds a pleasant variety, I'm a mix of celt, scandanavian and slavic blood myself.

hmmm come to think of this, it is putting me off moving to Australia (which might have been on the cards) as my child is half asain :/

Reassurance please!

 

[AGR]

I am Japanese Brazilian(actually mixed races probably even black/amerindian),it depends on the place,people have this mentality of US vs THEM,some places are really bad from the looks of it
When I am in my home country people see me as Japanese,when I am in Japan I look different than them,I am considered Latino,racism in both places,but its different,in brazil I am always reminded that I have Japanese blood,almost everybody would call me "japa", which means jap,even my family,but they arent being mean its more of joking,friendly way,people in brazil are used to those nicknames,like "blacky","german",they dont realise they are being racist,but I never had a problem with girls of another race rejecting me there because of this.
In Japan the racism its that they see me as a criminal,disturbance,some people keep staring and etc.

 

[Flowers-Of-Bloom]

YouTube - Everyones A Little Bit Racist

My friend used to live in Australia and she told me that a lot of Australians are in fact racist.

Never knew it was like that in Australia :/

pretty much cosmopolitan where I live but I guess the brits have always had immigrants going back to roman times, to me it adds a pleasant variety, I'm a mix of celt, scandanavian and slavic blood myself.

hmmm come to think of this, it is putting me off moving to Australia (which might have been on the cards) as my child is half asain :/

Reassurance please!

There's just as much racism here as there is in the rest of the world. It's a universal problem. Australia is a very multi-cultural society... many of my friends have been from other countries or had an asian/african/european etc background, so there are a lot of different people from a lot of different races. When that happens... well, there's bound to be some sort of racism.

 

[Sinar_Matahari]

YouTube - Everyones A Little Bit Racist





There's just as much racism here as there is in the rest of the world. It's a universal problem. Australia is a very multi-cultural society... many of my friends have been from other countries or had an asian/african/european etc background, so there are a lot of different people from a lot of different races. When that happens... well, there's bound to be some sort of racism.

Everyone is a little racist? That's very revealing of you ::, but I don't think this is the case. I am not a bit racist. I have my prejudices but I do not dislike or hate anyone on account of their race, skin color etc...

 

[Remus]

yeah that sounds like mild racism is acceptable?

not in my book it isn't

 

[Sinar_Matahari]

yeah that sounds like mild racism is acceptable?

not in my book it isn't

That is very admirable of you. It is unfortunate that not all people think like you do. It does seem like some people excuse or justify racism just because it exists. I accept it as part of life even though it is not something I agree with or care for but I know that this doesn't make racism right or okay.

There is nothing that I can say or do to change people's minds. When I hear about or witness racial discrimination it really angers me. The only thing I can do is educate my child properly, but otherwise I have to grow a thicker skin. People are going to believe whatever they choose which should be alright as long as they do not hurt or mistreat others as a result of those beliefs.

Unfortunately, we'll always have mean and violent bastards out there and if they don't use racism as an excuse to be violent, they will use violence for some other "cause".

I don't think that the OP should completely disregard the possibility that some may treat him differently or unfairly because they may not like people of his race. What is important is that he learn to not care about rejection be it racially motivated or otherwise. Rejection is rejection either way.

 

[Scrabbl]

regarding the fact that people usually hang out with those of their own race - I think the reason for that has got very little to do with race itself but more to do with the barrier across cultures.

People generally stay in their own cultural group because they can relate to one another better. People in the same culture would share a lot of things like common backgorund, language, values, beliefs, and ways of doing things etc.

Now obviously certain races are more closely associated with one culture or another, and people make generalizations. For example, east asian people in north america are most likely of the Chinese culture (canto or mandarin). So when it comes to a school or work setting, and people are meeting each other for the first time, and when a white guy sees an east asian guy, he jumps to the conclusion that they are not going to share the same cultural background, which may or may not be true. But once you have this cross-cultural barrier, communication is just potentially very difficult, and it makes friendships so much harder to build. And I believe that is the primary reason people mostly talk to those of their own race.

 

[Scrabbl]

As for myself, i'm Chinese Canadian and I haven't experienced much racism, at least not overt racism here.

I don't see the race as being the significant factor in dividing people at all. It's all based on culture. Unfortunately for me, I don't feel like I fit in any particular culture.

I immigrated to Canada when I was 12. since that time I've pretty much started to assimilate the western culture, mostly from watching TV.

I hadn't forgotten about my Chinese culture but I discovered that in the 7 years I neglected it, it's changed so much. Kids in China nowadays have created so many trendy neologisms that, even as a native speaker, it's difficult for me to understand their speech. This is especially true on the internet, chinese internet communities. Words cannot describe the level of culture shock I experience on those sites. I just feel totally confused. For example, I couldn' tell when a person is being serious or joking or if something is supposed to be funny or cool.

And even though I've been exposed to the American culture for 7 years and I've tried hard to learn it, I still don't feel like I belong in it at all. I guess I still retain a lot of my Chinese background. Also I guess it didn't help that I've been a loner all through high school lol.

So I'm in a fairly unique situation where I don't feel like I belong anywhere. There isn't any culture or community that I can identify with... what am I?? it's like I can't even answer a question as simple as that.

Sure there are other Chinese Canadians / Americans around where I live but we're such a diverse group; everybody is trying to find their own niche; and there's no community, no group solidarity whatsoever. I just feel so out of place. And I bet most Asian Americans feel the same way.

 

[Sinar_Matahari]

regarding the fact that people usually hang out with those of their own race - I think the reason for that has got very little to do with race itself but more to do with the barrier across cultures.

People generally stay in their own cultural group because they can relate to one another better. People in the same culture would share a lot of things like common backgorund, language, values, beliefs, and ways of doing things etc.

Now obviously certain races are more closely associated with one culture or another, and people make generalizations. For example, east asian people in north america are most likely of the Chinese culture (canto or mandarin). So when it comes to a school or work setting, and people are meeting each other for the first time, and when a white guy sees an east asian guy, he jumps to the conclusion that they are not going to share the same cultural background, which may or may not be true. But once you have this cross-cultural barrier, communication is just potentially very difficult, and it makes friendships so much harder to build. And I believe that is the primary reason people mostly talk to those of their own race.

I agree with you all the way. Whether people are racist or not, they are going to keep company with those whom they are most familiar/comfortable with.

 

[FOR REAL]

see those airport places, with planes and stuff, i avoid them like the plague cause ive not got a valid passport, but for an asian person it must be 100 times worse.

theres too much discrimination, floating around.

 

[Kat]

Yeah, people can be very systematic about things they tend to have some subconscious associative order to their life. Even if it might be ignorant familiarity usually wins and because the physical is what we see first people tend to draw to the first thing that’s familiar to them. They may not always intentionally do it but it happens. Sometimes people can tend to hang around with people of the same sex because they think maybe they can relate to them somehow more. I don’t think it’s always meant to be personal, I do however think no matter what background you have you will experience some of the negative things people have experienced in their post from time to time because some people are jerks and that doesn’t discriminate.

 

[limetree]

I believe in reincarnation, I am not my race.

 

[Flowers-Of-Bloom]

Everyone is a little racist? That's very revealing of you ::, but I don't think this is the case. I am not a bit racist. I have my prejudices but I do not dislike or hate anyone on account of their race, skin color etc...

I do not discriminate based on race, gender, orientation etc. That would be exactly what I hate.
The song does not imply that everyone hates/dislikes another race. It implies that everyone has some sort of prejudice against another race.
Example:

YouTube - The Chaser's War on Everything - Terrorist security response

It's a problem... even a security problem. It's not a sort of hateful racism, but most people - I'm not going to say "everyone" - holds stereotypes against racial and cultural backgrounds.
Things like racial stereotypes can seem harmless to a lot of people, but this is where it all starts.

yeah that sounds like mild racism is acceptable?

not in my book it isn't

No, it's not acceptable. I never said that.
I just, to some extent, agree with the words of the song - almost finding it abhorrent, and knowing that we have to do something about a problem so widespread.

 

[Sinar_Matahari]

I do not discriminate based on race, gender, orientation etc. That would be exactly what I hate.
The song does not imply that everyone hates/dislikes another race. It implies that everyone has some sort of prejudice against another race.

It's a problem... even a security problem. It's not a sort of hateful racism, but most people - I'm not going to say "everyone" - holds stereotypes against racial and cultural backgrounds.
Things like racial stereotypes can seem harmless to a lot of people, but this is where it all starts.

Please don't take what I wrote to heart. I thought the smiley face was enough to convey that I was just teasing but I'll specify next time. I wouldn't really care if you were racist. I mean, I don't agree with racism but I wouldn't push my beliefs of right and wrong on others.