grapevine
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That is pretty much the whole thing in a nutshell lol. literally perhaps even lol.
It just goes against my values to push someone away. And there is an underlining codependency there but more on his side. But more and more I just have to break that mindset of caring about him and his own ill-fated mind. He has improved alot since last year and the year before and so have I. He eventually apologised to people last night and removed all his jargon on his page. But it makes me so frustrated everything all the time. But hes a person and he bes quite nice to me, and regards me like friend for life and there is something to say now about his loyalty and sincerity towards me. But its without recognising his illness.
I like to auto write my frustrations because they are consuming esp with my anxiety. He has to learn that Im going to say no more often. He respects me when I do and even asks if i want my own time. But at the same time hs inability to not be able to plan combined with his desperate need to come over to my place so that he insant in his dark mental world at home gets pretty dependent and he needs to keep realising he cannot be dependent on people like that. Use me becaue he is scared to be alone and likes where i live. Well not that he uses me really, but im not his babysitter out of his issues.
I know i need to take responsibilty here and i have been having more time to myself. Which helps. I dont mind having a casual friendship with him, but i dont like getting too close because him and his sister have some of the most immature and dysfunctional values and lifestyles and mindsets .. as you can see it irritates me.
His sister stays at home all day- shes in her 30s. She has the same issues like rugs but a little different. Shes not well atm and cant drive, or finish her driving course because she gets issues of some kind. She talks to me like she is a victim like I have all the answers for her and yet is a very rude and aggressive woman. Shell be in her room all day, put this matte huge amount of makeup on and get rugs to take a photo of her for Instagram. Then her and rugs will be delusional about how great they are and they will both go on (but esp her) about people in the community that are bad and this and that and she will esp go on about some people she had a falling out with over something minor but turned into a psychotic trauma for her, despite being many years ago. She talks like it just happened. And it gets me a bit annoyed because I just want to send her to the CBT ward haha. There is no cognition.
Both of them were spoilt as kids and act the same today. They have no low feelings about themselves despite the situations they are in. And their poor widow mother that has to give in to their child-like illness. They just both cannot concentrate, plan has goals and things like that. Most importantly they lack integrity within themselves. They will both get into buying from opp shops and collecting things and that will be their life really and selfies and makeup or hair- and social media. They wont actually be putting demands on themselve to iprove thier lives . Although they help their mum, they cannot help themselves and that is what is not fair for the mother. I learnt big time that hanging around them for long periods meant I would get depressed about myself because I internally felt guilty for wasting my time. That I wasnt working on any goals because I was meeting thier social demands to just not really do anything but have to be present. And I hated that. But its turned around quite a bit despite being ill myself with fatigue. I feel I have to fight my way back to independence and limit my time with rugs more and more and Ive been doing that. I hardly ever go to his house and when Im present with him, this year its really only been when going for a walk. As going for a walk is being proactive and within my values so I enjoy it. But Im still learning how to phase myself out mentally when he talks crazy and delusional. I need to have other sane people in my life to counteract that and also I need to become my values. Live for what I like and who I think i am. Because hanging out with someone the opposite to who you are can be alot of energy to counteract it.
But you know I was thinking the other day about how I would if rugs weren't around, I wouldn't have that persistent person to get me out of my old ways I can fall trap in. So there is benefits and Ive talked with my therapist about.
Its just that I feel I can really only be around him when my im able to practice living my values and he isnt in the way of that. When he is against my beliefs and gets me frustrated, I need to stop and recognise that and acknowledge its always going to happen sometime or another, and looking at him with patience and compassion and just put myself first and have many days to myself so im not too close, so Im building my independent life away from him- that way Im able to tolerate and even enjoy the times with him.
I just simply cannot throw people away. And perhaps there is some fear in that. But having more time to myself and not seeing him every single day is something Ive been working on.
I guess too, I just like to indulge on here my expression of frustration because i dont do it else where. When maybe I should speak up to him- but that I have done before and its a no win for me and even for him. Trying to argue sense into someone who hasnt much at all gets you no where.
But its just that schizophrenia that strong, it can be deceiving in that the person can seem normal esp if you spend much time with them. You begin to accept things as quirks and just turn blind eyes to. Otherwise its a spidersweb. But then every now and then, they get into a big splash of irrational behaviour that makes no sense, and it can shock you. And that is what happened last night. No matter how many times it happens, it always blows you away because your seeing in written form in front of you, the scope of the illness and mindframe he has. And you feel a bit shocked and almost decieved that all that stuff has been in that person's mind and you didnt really know it was there, youd thought it was gone.
I guess knowing him for quite sometime now, he knows me quite well and yet he is crazy. But its nice to have someone around that is now respectful and close enough tov that they know you well. There is something really humble about that. But he is really like he has 2 personalities sometimes and really its just perception of his normal behaviour vs perception of his crazy stuff. Sometimes its just hidden ( the dramatic stuff).
Im really going to have to make a goal with myself to overcome a feeling of lonliness because Im so used to him being around, in order to push my independence and grow that part of me again. Make my goals, do my dream board and act on what I want in my life. Im lacking so many values from not practicing them.
I find it hard to concentrate on things now and get a little anxious. I feel like I always never have the time to practice things - like i have impatience. And I think its just a throw over from rugs energy and mentality. So limiting time again is what I need to do. Because I want to have patience and diligence in my own goals and I want to achieve things. I want my own intergrity. I want to walk my talk so to speak. I dont want to be a person that didnt personally achieve anything important to her just because the wrong person in her life wouldnt leave her alone so she fell into depression lol. Thats what its felt like. Ive let him walk over me because of his inabilities and desperation of his own illness. I care for him, but Im not him. He needs to find his own responsibility for himself. I look at my life and the things I have gone through and the amount of responsibility I had to forgo in order to find my way out of depression and bad circumstances in the past. You have to listen to yourself and be kind to yourself and then take action. Ive also done the opposite and so I know what its like to live in fear and close your life away too. You need to push yourself somewhere down the line, and there is a whole psychology on why people act on making thier lives better- sometimes you need to be right at the bottom to get the motivation.. things like that.
With rugs, I think he can be fun and nice and loyal and I admire him for those things. But his confusion with his mind and how to be with people is s sensitive and like an autistic child that its not worth my energy to indulge in frustrations from it- but I do cause I get a shock and usually during pms Ill get super frustrated.
My goal is to have 3 days straight to myself each week. That was what I agreed with my therapist. We thought that was a starting point where have that complete stretch of days give me incklings to grow away from rugs stuff and set seeds of growth of my own independence and goals.
And I have started that, but its mainly 2 days a week atm. Mainly because he works those 2 days lol. But Im getting there.
It just goes against my values to push someone away. And there is an underlining codependency there but more on his side. But more and more I just have to break that mindset of caring about him and his own ill-fated mind. He has improved alot since last year and the year before and so have I. He eventually apologised to people last night and removed all his jargon on his page. But it makes me so frustrated everything all the time. But hes a person and he bes quite nice to me, and regards me like friend for life and there is something to say now about his loyalty and sincerity towards me. But its without recognising his illness.
I like to auto write my frustrations because they are consuming esp with my anxiety. He has to learn that Im going to say no more often. He respects me when I do and even asks if i want my own time. But at the same time hs inability to not be able to plan combined with his desperate need to come over to my place so that he insant in his dark mental world at home gets pretty dependent and he needs to keep realising he cannot be dependent on people like that. Use me becaue he is scared to be alone and likes where i live. Well not that he uses me really, but im not his babysitter out of his issues.
I know i need to take responsibilty here and i have been having more time to myself. Which helps. I dont mind having a casual friendship with him, but i dont like getting too close because him and his sister have some of the most immature and dysfunctional values and lifestyles and mindsets .. as you can see it irritates me.
His sister stays at home all day- shes in her 30s. She has the same issues like rugs but a little different. Shes not well atm and cant drive, or finish her driving course because she gets issues of some kind. She talks to me like she is a victim like I have all the answers for her and yet is a very rude and aggressive woman. Shell be in her room all day, put this matte huge amount of makeup on and get rugs to take a photo of her for Instagram. Then her and rugs will be delusional about how great they are and they will both go on (but esp her) about people in the community that are bad and this and that and she will esp go on about some people she had a falling out with over something minor but turned into a psychotic trauma for her, despite being many years ago. She talks like it just happened. And it gets me a bit annoyed because I just want to send her to the CBT ward haha. There is no cognition.
Both of them were spoilt as kids and act the same today. They have no low feelings about themselves despite the situations they are in. And their poor widow mother that has to give in to their child-like illness. They just both cannot concentrate, plan has goals and things like that. Most importantly they lack integrity within themselves. They will both get into buying from opp shops and collecting things and that will be their life really and selfies and makeup or hair- and social media. They wont actually be putting demands on themselve to iprove thier lives . Although they help their mum, they cannot help themselves and that is what is not fair for the mother. I learnt big time that hanging around them for long periods meant I would get depressed about myself because I internally felt guilty for wasting my time. That I wasnt working on any goals because I was meeting thier social demands to just not really do anything but have to be present. And I hated that. But its turned around quite a bit despite being ill myself with fatigue. I feel I have to fight my way back to independence and limit my time with rugs more and more and Ive been doing that. I hardly ever go to his house and when Im present with him, this year its really only been when going for a walk. As going for a walk is being proactive and within my values so I enjoy it. But Im still learning how to phase myself out mentally when he talks crazy and delusional. I need to have other sane people in my life to counteract that and also I need to become my values. Live for what I like and who I think i am. Because hanging out with someone the opposite to who you are can be alot of energy to counteract it.
But you know I was thinking the other day about how I would if rugs weren't around, I wouldn't have that persistent person to get me out of my old ways I can fall trap in. So there is benefits and Ive talked with my therapist about.
Its just that I feel I can really only be around him when my im able to practice living my values and he isnt in the way of that. When he is against my beliefs and gets me frustrated, I need to stop and recognise that and acknowledge its always going to happen sometime or another, and looking at him with patience and compassion and just put myself first and have many days to myself so im not too close, so Im building my independent life away from him- that way Im able to tolerate and even enjoy the times with him.
I just simply cannot throw people away. And perhaps there is some fear in that. But having more time to myself and not seeing him every single day is something Ive been working on.
I guess too, I just like to indulge on here my expression of frustration because i dont do it else where. When maybe I should speak up to him- but that I have done before and its a no win for me and even for him. Trying to argue sense into someone who hasnt much at all gets you no where.
But its just that schizophrenia that strong, it can be deceiving in that the person can seem normal esp if you spend much time with them. You begin to accept things as quirks and just turn blind eyes to. Otherwise its a spidersweb. But then every now and then, they get into a big splash of irrational behaviour that makes no sense, and it can shock you. And that is what happened last night. No matter how many times it happens, it always blows you away because your seeing in written form in front of you, the scope of the illness and mindframe he has. And you feel a bit shocked and almost decieved that all that stuff has been in that person's mind and you didnt really know it was there, youd thought it was gone.
I guess knowing him for quite sometime now, he knows me quite well and yet he is crazy. But its nice to have someone around that is now respectful and close enough tov that they know you well. There is something really humble about that. But he is really like he has 2 personalities sometimes and really its just perception of his normal behaviour vs perception of his crazy stuff. Sometimes its just hidden ( the dramatic stuff).
Im really going to have to make a goal with myself to overcome a feeling of lonliness because Im so used to him being around, in order to push my independence and grow that part of me again. Make my goals, do my dream board and act on what I want in my life. Im lacking so many values from not practicing them.
I find it hard to concentrate on things now and get a little anxious. I feel like I always never have the time to practice things - like i have impatience. And I think its just a throw over from rugs energy and mentality. So limiting time again is what I need to do. Because I want to have patience and diligence in my own goals and I want to achieve things. I want my own intergrity. I want to walk my talk so to speak. I dont want to be a person that didnt personally achieve anything important to her just because the wrong person in her life wouldnt leave her alone so she fell into depression lol. Thats what its felt like. Ive let him walk over me because of his inabilities and desperation of his own illness. I care for him, but Im not him. He needs to find his own responsibility for himself. I look at my life and the things I have gone through and the amount of responsibility I had to forgo in order to find my way out of depression and bad circumstances in the past. You have to listen to yourself and be kind to yourself and then take action. Ive also done the opposite and so I know what its like to live in fear and close your life away too. You need to push yourself somewhere down the line, and there is a whole psychology on why people act on making thier lives better- sometimes you need to be right at the bottom to get the motivation.. things like that.
With rugs, I think he can be fun and nice and loyal and I admire him for those things. But his confusion with his mind and how to be with people is s sensitive and like an autistic child that its not worth my energy to indulge in frustrations from it- but I do cause I get a shock and usually during pms Ill get super frustrated.
My goal is to have 3 days straight to myself each week. That was what I agreed with my therapist. We thought that was a starting point where have that complete stretch of days give me incklings to grow away from rugs stuff and set seeds of growth of my own independence and goals.
And I have started that, but its mainly 2 days a week atm. Mainly because he works those 2 days lol. But Im getting there.