Normal Society

[mikebird]

You must have smoked tobacco for at least 50 years and be married, with 12 children, to have earned a place in society, to have any chance of being accepted and have a job

 

[jaim38]

Society expects us to go through "rites of passage" such as losing one's virginity, dabbling in drugs, having your first drink, and falling in love before one is considered "mature". Personally, I don't care what society thinks; I want to do things my way. Society has no business telling me what to do.

 

[truffleshuffle]

Normal isan't all its cracked up to be! and what is normle anyway? Its just trying to hide the fact there is no normal.

 

[mikebird]

I see my obvious mistake

I was not giving orders or suggestions. I'm satirical.

Instead of starting with YOU, I should have said

THEY (parent, police, doctor, nurse, lawyer, Crown Judge, employer, etc) Deem that this is the only way to be. If anyone of Armed Forces, I'd do as told, even if it was to die, although if I was the one holding the gun, I might have some fun. I do prefer the idea of rebellion rather than suicide, and see what come of it.

Personally, my personal 11th Commandment for me is:
not to tell anyone what to do or not do. When they do that to me, they might regret it.

I'm still on the fence with an idea of cigars, etc to boost my morale, and see what comes of it

 

[Opaline]

is that how it is in England? In America you're supposed to have a stable job, a spouse, and MAYBE one or two children, but no more, or people will be disgusted with you for creating so many resource-gobbling brats. And smoking is generally frowned upon.

 

[Arthur_Dent]

Very appropriated quote:

The really hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. "Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does." They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted, still cherish "the illusion of individuality," but in fact they have been to a great extent deindividualized. Their conformity is developing into something like uniformity. But "uniformity and freedom are incompatible. Uniformity and mental health are incompatible too .... Man is not made to be an automaton, and if he becomes one, the basis for mental health is destroyed."

 

[Opaline]

Very appropriated quote:

Hmm, what is that quote from? Not Brave New World, right? That's the only work of his I know

I don't know if that's true though. Humans are largely followers by nature, and always have been. I don't know if you can say a society is sick just because everyone is imitating everyone else, because that is what humans have always done. Some want to be leaders, but most are content to just follow everyone else and make sure they fit the standards of those around them. To be different is to be shunned.

 

[Arthur_Dent]

It's from Brave New World Revisited, a long essay Huxley wrote some decades later analysing how the world was getting closer to his dystopia. I agree that most people conform to certain standards to fit in society, I guess the problem is when you see some kids that don't seem to show the slightlest sign of individuality.

 

[Section_31]

I prefer to be a society of one. Live my own life and my rules by my own Morals and standards. I won't change how I feel or who I am to make someone else happy.

 

[Azunyan]

In fact most people are not the magical "normal", rather thats the side ppl show. Get to know the person and you realise he/she have troubles, weirdness and what else.
I think very few would actually be what most ppl see as normal in society.

Edit: Seen this myself countless times with people i thought had a great normal life, but actually did not.

 

[Section_31]

In fact most people are not the magical "normal", rather thats the side ppl show. Get to know the person and you realise he/she have troubles, weirdness and what else.
I think very few would actually be what most ppl see as normal in society.

Edit: Seen this myself countless times with people i thought had a great normal life, but actually did not.

I agree. Most are just accustomed to hiding their true selves.

 

[recluse]

You need to have partied hard starting from your teens and throughout your twenties

Had numerous relationships from teenage years

Got a good education

Got a career

Get married and have children

 

[Opaline]

For all our society claims to support individualism and uniqueness - living life your own way - we sure come down hard on those who truly embrace this ideal. We're all a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[psych]

You must have smoked tobacco for at least 50 years and be married, with 12 children, to have earned a place in society, to have any chance of being accepted and have a job

Hey, don't feel bad, they expect me to breed. ::

 

[dottie]

Why don't people stop reading the daily mail and realise that the average person is just the people you are meeting on a daily basis. Give up newspapers as well as tv and you'll soon see that it's a wonderful world out there.

:thumbup:

...............

 

[mikebird]

Still engaged in the decision to start smoking.

The few people I socialise with, regarding Xmas, and all else, are all heavy smokers... my multitudes of uncles and aunties. The way to achieve the simple personal confidence every 10 mins from waking until bed? All schoolmates began at 14.

Just something I have not tried. Health aside, it could be the best bet to use the remaining years to boost the ego, be around others, rolling another one on your lap. My lungs are in tip top condition

Prior to interview, having shining inner soul popping out of the eyes

Possibly the undefined glow I have from booze, on my strict rules that it doesn't happen when I'm alone. Maybe smoking doesn't project my foolish self when intoxicated by liquor. Wind in the hair with a cigar?

Anyone tell me, from experience?

 

[Hellhound]

You must have smoked tobacco for at least 50 years and be married, with 12 children, to have earned a place in society, to have any chance of being accepted and have a job

Society expects us to go through "rites of passage" such as losing one's virginity, dabbling in drugs, having your first drink, and falling in love before one is considered "mature". Personally, I don't care what society thinks; I want to do things my way. Society has no business telling me what to do.

You guys are misguided.

 

[Arthur_Dent]

Seriously? smoking to fit in?

I wouldn't have any respect at all for someone who does this at your age

 

[ImNotMyIllness]

Smoking is out! Who even smokes anymore?? It's actually socially unacceptable. Besides, on top of your other issues, I don't think you would want to be all jittery.
I've seen people at work trying to bum a smoke. It's pathetic.

P.S Let's not forget the damage it will due to your health. And, it's expensive!

 

[Hellhound]

These threads are amusing. The sheer amount of ignorance is astounding.