Circumcision...

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sabbath9

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Genital mutilation is barbaric. My foreskin was attached the top of my penis when I was young. Then as I started to masturbate, the piece of skin attaching it to the top started to break off naturally. Eventually that piece of skin was pulled apart. It was painful while it was happening but that only lasted a few months. Funny thing is, that part of my penis where it used to attach to the foreskin is now the most sensitive part (which is a good thing). This country needs masturbation (sex) education not genital mutilation.

King Missile said:
I woke up this morning with a bad hangover
And my penis was missing again
This happens all the time
It's detachable
This comes in handy a lot of the time
I can leave it home when I think it's going to get me in trouble
Or I can rent it out when I don't need it

But now and then I go to a party
Get drunk
And the next morning I can't for the life of me
Remember what I did with it
First I looked around my apartment
And I couldn't find it
So I called up the place where the party was
They hadn't seen it either
I asked them to check the medicine cabinet
'Cause for some reason I leave it there sometimes
But not this time
So I told them if it pops up to let me know.

I called a few people who were at the party
But they were no help either
I was starting to get desperate
I really don't like being without my penis for too long
It makes me feel like less of a man
And I really hate to have to sit down every time I take a leak

After a few hours of searching the house
And calling everyone I could think of
I was starting to get very depressed
So I went to the Kiev and ate breakfast.
Then as I walked down Second Avenue toward St. Mark's Place
Where all those people sell used books and other junk on the street
I saw my penis lying on a blanket next to a broken toaster oven
Some guy was selling it
I had to buy it off him
He wanted 22 bucks but I talked him down to 17
I took it home
Washed it off
And put it back on
I was happy again
Complete
People sometimes tell me I should get it permanently attached
But I don't know
Even though sometimes it's a pain in the ass
I like having a detachable penis
 
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Nervous

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Circumcision is genital mutilation and should be outlawed!

The reasons for circumcision are total bullshit. It's amazing how brainwashed people are.
 

Generical

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Is quite a strange topic (on this forum) but whatever..who doesn't like talking about their penis, lol!

With me i'm, from what i've read, 'skinned back'? (heh lovely name for it) as in i'm not circumcised but it stays behind the head aand would return there after pushing it above it. So with there being a whole debate about which is better, whole or cut and a million advantages and disadvantages with each..it's pretty shit. Sensation-wise i doubt there's a whole lot of difference i've actually heard of people purposefully make their foreskin permanently retracted for purely sexual reasons and they said nothing about a loss of sensation, only it being a different sensation (still different from having no foreskin but it applies to the glans). So i'm just going along with be happy with what you've got....but lmao that's coming from someone who's actually looked up this sorta stuff so yeahhhhh but it's normal to be curious i guess.
 
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bleach

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80% of the worlds men are uncut. Most of the cut is located in what country? The USA.

Since our country constantly has Jewish ethics pushed on us, that is not a surprise.

You don't need to go to a doctor to get restored. You can do it on your own. I stretch my skin 30 minutes every night before I go to bed. I put intense pressure for 2-5 seconds and then light pressure and switch back and forth.

Holy moley... no thank you.
 

Rodox

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Why is that when people have a diferrent opinion than you guys they are brainwashed?what if they like different things?
No one is equal,if I have a child,which is unlikely,I will not force him to do it,I know a guy that had to do it, family friend,he was very nervous but in the end he liked cut off better,I think you are the one that needs an open mind.
 

Sacrament

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Circumcision is genital mutilation and should be outlawed!

The reasons for circumcision are total bullshit. It's amazing how brainwashed people are.

Are you seriously that close-minded? Why would something like circumcision be outlawed? I mean sure, such a thing as genital mutilation does exist (like when women are forced to have their clitoris removed), but seeing circumcision as genital mutilation is preposterous. What about those who suffer from phimosis like I did? Are they supposed to keep on living like that, not being able to feel normal around others like I did? Asking myself why me while having to live for years with the condition before finding the guts to confess and finally get a much needed surgery?

A lot of parents don't follow their doctors' advice and forget/ignore that pulling the baby's foreskin in the bath regularly is essential for it to properly stretch and not become so tight that it won't slide over the glans and fully expose it. As a result, circumcision is necessary; it's either circumcision or preputioplasty. Look up the word phimosis on Wikipedia and tell me that if your condition was as severe as the picture that's on there, you wouldn't change your mind. Or would you say "nope, it's a crime, it's barbaric and I'll just keep living as if there's a knot at the end of my penis".

A lot of cases are severe. It's not always a matter of aesthetics, you know. Not a lot of men wake up one day and go "hey, I'm in the mood to get circumcized today." It's a painful experience to go through. I had to be given the same epidural 5 or 6 times because I kept flinching, which brought the risk of having the needle break while in my back. By the time they were able to give it to me, I was so exhausted that I just told myself "you know what, screw it. Just focus and don't move an inch; it's getting way too painful."

Because having a thick needle through your spine is one of the most painful experiences you'll ever feel. It really is a whole new kind of pain.
 
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DaaaBulls

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Bleach- The Jewish remark seems a bit racist to me, being Jewish myself my parents DID NOT have me circumsized at birth. So your philosophy is wrong and blaming the Jews is a cop out for your own problems.

That being said, the Jewish culture is not the only one that does circumcision. It is widely done in Arabic countries and strict Christianity. I guess us Jews just control everything right? I mean shit we are all rich as hell? Haha, yeah right. Your public display of racism makes me sick.

Sacrament- Removing of the clitoris of a woman is considered "circumsizing". So if it is considered mutilation there how would it be any different on the body part of a male? And to say Phimosis was a reason to get circumsized was/is wrong. I too had phimosis to the point where I didn't even realize it was suppose to retract til I was 18. I thought my erections were normal, having the skin completely covering the head. Yeah it would have been nice to have been told to pull back the foreskin at an early age but phimosis is an easily treated disorder without the need for circumcision. 2-3 months of gentle stretching for 15 minutes a night would have cured it permanently.

If you can really tell me a good reason that a creature, an animal would have more than half of his penile skin cut off at birth than I am listening. If you look at it as humans being animals it makes no sense that something would be cut off of an animals reproductive organ. The reproductive organ has to be one of the most important organs to an animal since one of our basic instincts is to reproduce. The human orgasm is a huge part of being human and to take that away is "preposterous".
 
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Nervous

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Bleach- The Jewish remark seems a bit racist to me, being Jewish myself my parents DID NOT have me circumsized at birth. So your philosophy is wrong and blaming the Jews is a cop out for your own problems.



That being said, the Jewish culture is not the only one that does circumcision. It is widely done in Arabic countries and strict Christianity. I guess us Jews just control everything right? I mean shit we are all rich as hell? Haha, yeah right. Your public display of racism makes me sick.

Circumcision is a jewish thing and there are many doctors in the U.S. are jews. Why do you think most American males are circumcised?

Circumcision is also religious. If you're parents are secular jews then maybe that would explain why the didn't have it done to you. But the jewish doctors sure love doing it to gentile babies:mad:

Hell, Bobby Fischer was uncircumcised. He even offered to show a journalist his penis to prove it.
 

Remus

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Circumcision is also religious. If you're parents are secular jews then maybe that would explain why the didn't have it done to you. But the jewish doctors sure love doing it to gentile babies:mad:

I dont like where this is going, watch it!
 

Sacrament

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Sacrament- Removing of the clitoris of a woman is considered "circumsizing". So if it is considered mutilation there how would it be any different on the body part of a male? And to say Phimosis was a reason to get circumsized was/is wrong.

No, it's not. Just because in your case all you had to do was stretch the foreskin for a few minutes every day in order to get it 'working' properly, doesn't mean that's how it works for everyone. Like I said, some cases are very serious. With mine, for instance, it would make no difference if I did that. I needed the surgery. The doctor didn't even bring up the possibility of doing that specific exercise. It's not even like I didn't try it for a while either.

Please do not say things with the conviction that they are facts when they clearly aren't. To say something like phimosis not being a good enough reason to be circumcized is ridiculous. Again, look it up on Google images or Wikipedia and you'll see cases that are severe enough for surgery, where the foreskin is so tight at the end of the glans that it wouldn't matter if you spent weeks trying to stretch it because all you'd get would be pain.

Men don't get circumcized at the age of 18 or 19 like I did on a whim. Do you really think it's fun to have doctors chopping away at your family jewels or going through something as absurdly painful as getting an epidural? An epidural is something that's usually used as a last resort for women who are having some trouble giving birth. It numbs your lower limbs so you don't have to be fully asleep. Trust me when I say that the first night I spent at the hospital after getting circumcized was not fun at all. Plus, the stitches only came out over a month after the surgery, and I had to PULL some of them.

And don't tell me that male circumcision and female circumcision are the same thing just because they were given the same technical name. Actually, most people call it female genital mutilation because that's literally what it is. To cut off their clitoris is something like cutting off your entire glans, and not just the foreskin. It is done for religious reasons or to punish women slaves and so forth.

Several dictionaries, including medical dictionaries, define the word circumcision as applicable to some procedures performed on females. Cook states that historically, the term female circumcision was used, but that "this procedure in whatever form it is practiced is not at all analogous to male circumcision and so the term 'female circumcision' gave way to the term 'female genital mutilation.

Shell-Duncan states that the term female circumcision is a euphemism for a variety of procedures for altering the female genitalia. Toubia argued, in 1995, that the term female circumcision "implies a fallacious analogy to nonmutilating male circumcision, in which the foreskin is cut off from the tip of the penis without damaging the organ itself.

Amnesty International estimates that over 130 million women worldwide have been affected by some form of FGM, with over 2 million procedures being performed every year. FGM is mainly practiced in African countries. It is common in a band that stretches from Senegal in West Africa to Ethiopia on the East coast, as well as from Egypt in the north to Tanzania in the south; see Map. It is also practiced by some groups in the Arabian peninsula. The country where FGM is most prevalent is Egypt, followed by Sudan, Ethiopia, and Mali. Egypt recently passed a law banning FGM.

As for male circumcision:

Over forty epidemiological studies have been conducted to investigate the relationship between circumcision and HIV infection. Reviews of these studies have reached differing conclusions about whether circumcision could be used as a prevention method against HIV.

Experimental evidence was needed to establish a causal relationship between lack of circumcision and HIV, so three randomized controlled trials were commissioned as a means to reduce the effect of any confounding factors. Trials took place in South Africa, Kenya and Uganda. All three trials were stopped early by their monitoring boards on ethical grounds, because those in the circumcised group had a lower rate of HIV contraction than the control group. The results showed that circumcision reduced vaginal-to-penile transmission of HIV by 60%, 53%, and 51%, respectively.

As a result of these findings, the WHO and the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) stated that male circumcision is an efficacious intervention for HIV prevention but should be carried out by well trained medical professionals and under conditions of informed consent (parents consent for their infant boys). Both the WHO and CDC indicate that circumcision may not reduce HIV transmission from men to women, and that data is lacking for the transmission rate of men who engage in anal sex with a female partner. The joint WHO/UNAIDS recommendation also notes that circumcision only provides partial protection from HIV and should never replace known methods of HIV prevention.

Meta-analyses by Van Howe and Bosch et al. of observational studies had differing conclusions as to whether circumcision reduces infection of human papilloma virus. A recent prospective trial in Uganda randomized 3393 subjects to circumcision or a control group and found a significant reduction of HPV infection in the circumcision group. At 24 month follow-up, there was a 27.9% prevalence of high-risk HPV genotypes in the control group and only a 18.0% prevalence in the circumcision group (adjusted risk ratio, 0.65; 95% CI, 0.46 to 0.90; P=0.009). Another recent trial by Auvert et al. in Orange Farm, South Africa, randomized men to either a circumcision or control group. At the 21 month visit, the prevalence of high-risk HPV infection was lower in the circumcised men than the uncircumcised participants (14.8% and 22.3% respectively, a prevalence rate ratio of 0.66).

A meta-analysis of observational data from twenty-six studies found that circumcision was associated with lower rates of syphilis, chancroid and possibly genital herpes. A large randomized prospective trial in Uganda found a reduction in HSV-2 infection, but not syphilis infection, in the circumcision arm of the study.

A meta-analysis of 12 studies (one randomised controlled trial, four cohort studies and seven case-control studies) representing 402,908 children determined that circumcision was associated with a significantly reduced risk of urinary tract infection (UTI).

Everything has its pros and cons, of course, but associating male circumcision with genital mutilation is, pure and simply, wrong.
 

DaaaBulls

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Sacrament- I guess we can agree to disagree. Obviously your so narrow minded on the subject that there is really no reasoning with you.

Did you even read my first post? Lol! I had phimosis too!!! My urologist told me " DO NOT GET CIRCUMSIZED, I WOULD NOT LET MY OWN SON DO IT. EVERYONE THAT I CIRCUMSIZE LATER IN LIFE COME BACK TO ME AND SAY THEY WANT IT REVERSED" Of course I thought he was lying and just didn't want to see me be "normal" but he was 150% right!

And again, phimosis is not a reason to get circumsized. Circumcision is never the answer to any problems in that area.

And if you look at the evolution of humans the genital area is basicly made up of the same stuff whether it be a male or female. Obviously nature formed them differently but you can look it up on youtube, I doubt you will, but the genitals have the same basic stuff in them. So yes, circumsizing a male is just as wrong as circumsizing a female, no matter what you say.

And thanks for the posts about the studies, I could go ahead and do the same thing with studies saying just the oppisite of what yours say. Just because you googled and clicked on the first homepage doesn't mean that those studies are right. I dare you too actually look up the functions of the foreskin and to do some research on it. I doubt you will since you seem extremely stubborn but I dare ya!
 

Elad

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You don't need to go to a doctor to get restored. You can do it on your own. I stretch my skin 30 minutes every night before I go to bed. I put intense pressure for 2-5 seconds and then light pressure and switch back and forth.

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Oh and thanks for the lolz
 
Wow, I can't imagine what it would be like if it was 3x as good. Guys are already oversexed as it is - the world would be insane!
 

Elad

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Your welcome, enjoy your mutilated penis

I'm uncircumcised and if you're intensely pulling your foreskin every night I hope you enjoy your mutilated looking penis.

Jw if you get stretch marks.. ?
 
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Rodox

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Seriously,that doesnt sound good,you could hurt yourself and you will get frustrated,ask your urologist if he thinks that is a good idea,even if somehow you got the skin back,which I doubt,it wont be the same,you will just get frustrated,what is done is done dude, you just have to get used to it now and learn to like it.....
 
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