Beauty!!Inner vs Outer

springk

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I agree.

No matter how much people say it, its always looks then the inside etc.

From my own experience, people don't seem to ever get passed my shaved head and probably think I'm ugly because of it. They see hair as part of a female's beauty and not wanting to get to know me.

(note: I love my shaved head)

You look great. I have seen your pic and your shaven head suits you. Its a style that many people may not carry well but some do and i guess you do that. What you say about hair being regarded as female beauty..well yeah people do that! I hate my hair and want to shave it off. Its not that i can carry that style and i perhaps dont like it for myself..but i just wish for healthy hair to grow back but i can't cause that will be a head turner lol.
 

miserablecow

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You look great. I have seen your pic and your shaven head suits you. Its a style that many people may not carry well but some do and i guess you do that. What you say about hair being regarded as female beauty..well yeah people do that! I hate my hair and want to shave it off. Its not that i can carry that style and i perhaps dont like it for myself..but i just wish for healthy hair to grow back but i can't cause that will be a head turner lol.

Thank you...I wish I have healthy hair too. I suffer from discoid lupus, that has effected my hair growth. I just thought, I'd just shave it off, better than what I have now. I'm glad I have and its been over a year and a half. If you say your hair is unhealthy, maybe try using olive oil on your hair, it does help. Or if you think it's something a doctor can help with, then you should visit one.
 

WishingICould

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What's wrong with pale skin?

I'm pale and I used to see the light of day all the time (admittedly not as much lately). I just don't tan.

Look at all the Caucasian celebrities, and notice how many of them are pale. Nicole Kidman, Madonna, Amanda Seyfried, Anne Hathaway, even Robert Pattinson (ew... but apparently he's a heartthrob :idontknow:). Pale is attractive if you know how to work it, and everyone knows tanning is bad for you. I've seen some of the aforementioned celebrities with tans, but most of the time they're pale as far as I can tell.

Don't be hatin' coyote :giggle:

I'm pale too. :thumbup:
 

planemo

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I agree.

No matter how much people say it, its always looks then the inside etc.

From my own experience, people don't seem to ever get passed my shaved head and probably think I'm ugly because of it. They see hair as part of a female's beauty and not wanting to get to know me.

(note: I love my shaved head)

That's people for you i guess, not wanting to get to know you since you shave your hair. :thumbdown:
i agree with springk, you look great with it and it suites you. :)

i wouldn't quite say i love my shaved head, since it probably makes me look older than i am, but i guess i'm used to it these days.
 

KiaKaha

Banned
Inner beauty matters - but lets face it - no one wants to wake up in the morning and look at their spouse and say "ew"

Outer beauty matters - much much more than people want to really admit - because in doing so, it's an almost an admittance of being shallow.

Just look at the post your picture thread... a pretty girl gets PAGES of responses. Someone who is not attractive gets barely a response.
 

planemo

Well-known member
Inner beauty matters - but lets face it - no one wants to wake up in the morning and look at their spouse and say "ew"

Outer beauty matters - much much more than people want to really admit - because in doing so, it's an almost an admittance of being shallow.

Just look at the post your picture thread... a pretty girl gets PAGES of responses. Someone who is not attractive gets barely a response.

you're right kia. i think if we all would rather like to ignore the fact that we show shallow tendencies when we judge others and even ourselves.
 

springk

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Inner beauty matters - but lets face it - no one wants to wake up in the morning and look at their spouse and say "ew"

Outer beauty matters - much much more than people want to really admit - because in doing so, it's an almost an admittance of being shallow.

Just look at the post your picture thread... a pretty girl gets PAGES of responses. Someone who is not attractive gets barely a response.

Thats right kia.
We have a general tendency to use sugar coated words haha, i mean like nobody will say to your face that you are ugly but they will make you feel that way ..like avoid you, bear up with you etc.
And that nobody accepts that they have this kind of attitude.
Surely its wrong to judge someone on looks but humans frail as we are have a tendency to be baised.
So why not accept it?

I m not saying that all the people in the world think that way but majority does.
The thing about a pretty girl getting pages of responses shows this. Lets face it a pretty face will get praises on the thread, while not so pretty ones will not; most us will write a sentence or just ignore it cause no one likes to be rude.
 

FallenFeathers

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I think we are wired a certain way, In the brain I mean, maybe a hold over from our less civilized days when we still had fur :) Despite our best intentions I believe we are genetically built to be attracted to certain traits, like scientific studies I believe have shown things like symmetry in a face seems to be a factor in what we see as attractive.

Now this is only applicable to me I'm not trying to say this is how it is for everyone ^.^, but I find physical looks do matter, they are what normally draws my attention sadly as shallow as that may be. But it's personality that keeps that attraction going and turns it into something more, a girls could be stunningly beautiful but if we don't click then my attraction fades. Where there have been girls I did not find attractive at first, they suddenly become beautiful once I get to know them. I don't even mean I look past their looks, I mean they genuinely become beautiful to me.
 

miserablecow

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That's people for you i guess, not wanting to get to know you since you shave your hair. :thumbdown:
i agree with springk, you look great with it and it suites you. :)

i wouldn't quite say i love my shaved head, since it probably makes me look older than i am, but i guess i'm used to it these days.

Thank you...If I didn't have my skin condition, I don't I would have shaved my head.
 

miserablecow

Well-known member
Inner beauty matters - but lets face it - no one wants to wake up in the morning and look at their spouse and say "ew"

Outer beauty matters - much much more than people want to really admit - because in doing so, it's an almost an admittance of being shallow.

Just look at the post your picture thread... a pretty girl gets PAGES of responses. Someone who is not attractive gets barely a response.

I totally agree...I noticed that on the picture thread too. I posted my pic on there, I guess as an intro to what I look like.
 

ImNotMyIllness

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Outer beauty can be a problem! As a guy, a very attractive woman can be irresistible, which can lead to a big mistake-like a long term relationship from hell! lol

I try to discount a woman's beautiful looks. I would rather date an average looking woman who was beautiful on the inside any day! Actually, I find inner beauty to be very physically attractive. That doesn't mean I don't need chemistry, but a good heart goes a long way!
 

FallenFeathers

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Thank you...I wish I have healthy hair too. I suffer from discoid lupus, that has effected my hair growth. I just thought, I'd just shave it off, better than what I have now. I'm glad I have and its been over a year and a half. If you say your hair is unhealthy, maybe try using olive oil on your hair, it does help. Or if you think it's something a doctor can help with, then you should visit one.

Kinda random side note, I really like long hair on girls, but I think you suit short hair I don't think it detracts from your prettiness at all.

But I shave my head just because I don't want to pay the extortionate amount barbers charge these days, so a shaved head and tats= me getting followed round by security guards and stuff :thumbdown:
 

miserablecow

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Kinda random side note, I really like long hair on girls, but I think you suit short hair I don't think it detracts from your prettiness at all.

But I shave my head just because I don't want to pay the extortionate amount barbers charge these days, so a shaved head and tats= me getting followed round by security guards and stuff :thumbdown:

Thank you.

That's sounds rubbish. Does the whole, being followed by security guards happen a lot? Are you heavily tattood?

I was thinking of creating a thread about body modification and beauty. After watching some youtube videos...but not sure now.
 

springk

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why do you feel unattractive?

sorry for taking so long to reply.
though its off topic.
and it will take a large space to describe what i feel about myself ..
I will say that i dont feel myself attractive or beautiful..i dont consider my face to be pretty . nor is my lack of confidence help if you dont consider facial features to be deciding factor.

^ thats seriously a low self esteem but cant help it
 

springk

Well-known member
I think we are wired a certain way, In the brain I mean, maybe a hold over from our less civilized days when we still had fur :) Despite our best intentions I believe we are genetically built to be attracted to certain traits, like scientific studies I believe have shown things like symmetry in a face seems to be a factor in what we see as attractive.

Now this is only applicable to me I'm not trying to say this is how it is for everyone ^.^, but I find physical looks do matter, they are what normally draws my attention sadly as shallow as that may be. But it's personality that keeps that attraction going and turns it into something more, a girls could be stunningly beautiful but if we don't click then my attraction fades. Where there have been girls I did not find attractive at first, they suddenly become beautiful once I get to know them. I don't even mean I look past their looks, I mean they genuinely become beautiful to me.

I too wonder if the symmetry of facial features play a role in deciding the beauty?
I can say that majority of people in my class consider select persons to be bful..so why nearly everyone consider those select persons to be bful.
 
Disclaimer *This is not directed at anybody in particular but a response generally to this subject which comes up a lot.*

Ugh why is everybody so obsessed with beauty?!? It DOESN'T MATTER. No it really doesn't. The older I get the more I see how completely meaningless it is. It's just a bunch of insecurity and that's all, sorry to be harsh but it is. And then people say 'oh only people who are good looking say looks don't matter' and well I'm sick of it. Im totally fed up of it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it is subjective. What does it matter if the whole world find you beautiful or not?! Somebody will find you attractive, attraction isnt just about looks.
 

ImNotMyIllness

Well-known member
Disclaimer *This is not directed at anybody in particular but a response generally to this subject which comes up a lot.*

Ugh why is everybody so obsessed with beauty?!? It DOESN'T MATTER. No it really doesn't. The older I get the more I see how completely meaningless it is. It's just a bunch of insecurity and that's all, sorry to be harsh but it is. And then people say 'oh only people who are good looking say looks don't matter' and well I'm sick of it. Im totally fed up of it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it is subjective. What does it matter if the whole world find you beautiful or not?! Somebody will find you attractive, attraction isnt just about looks.

:applause: Well said Jewel!
 

FallenFeathers

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That's sounds rubbish. Does the whole, being followed by security guards happen a lot? Are you heavily tattood?

I was thinking of creating a thread about body modification and beauty. After watching some youtube videos...but not sure now.

If I don't wear clothing which covers them up yeah, quite heavily inked on my arms, I'm also quite heavily scarred in some areas which I don't think helps.

I guess they are only doing their jobs, and sadly we all know their can still be stigma about ink, but it's still sad I have to cover up what is just my expression of art, it's not like I've got Mara Salvatrucha 13 and La Santa Muerte on me or anything :eek:h:

Well do whatever you feel comfy with, but I'd be interested to see that thread.

I too wonder if the symmetry of facial features play a role in deciding the beauty?

I'm not sure how conclusive the studies were, but there did seem to be a pattern, symmetry, also guys tends to like wide hips and big bewbs as apparently it's what we subconsciously look for as a sign the woman is healthy to bear Children. If I remember correctly females tended to like certain things too, like tallness because it harps back to feeling protected. I think it's humbling were still bound by things we think we have left behind and are above as we forget we are just mammals... but it's also refreshing were not all bound to it, I mean bewbs don't really matter to me at all and neither do hips, not to say I can't appreciate them *blush* But I can appreciate a girl without them just as much.

Anyway rambling, I will see if I can find the documentary on you tube :)
 
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Hellhound

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Disclaimer *This is not directed at anybody in particular but a response generally to this subject which comes up a lot.*

Ugh why is everybody so obsessed with beauty?!? It DOESN'T MATTER. No it really doesn't. The older I get the more I see how completely meaningless it is. It's just a bunch of insecurity and that's all, sorry to be harsh but it is. And then people say 'oh only people who are good looking say looks don't matter' and well I'm sick of it. Im totally fed up of it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it is subjective. What does it matter if the whole world find you beautiful or not?! Somebody will find you attractive, attraction isnt just about looks.

Yes. I love you for saying that.
 

MikeyC

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Disclaimer *This is not directed at anybody in particular but a response generally to this subject which comes up a lot.*

Ugh why is everybody so obsessed with beauty?!? It DOESN'T MATTER. No it really doesn't. The older I get the more I see how completely meaningless it is. It's just a bunch of insecurity and that's all, sorry to be harsh but it is. And then people say 'oh only people who are good looking say looks don't matter' and well I'm sick of it. Im totally fed up of it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it is subjective. What does it matter if the whole world find you beautiful or not?! Somebody will find you attractive, attraction isnt just about looks.
Someone will find you attractive, sure, but that doesn't stop the insecurities, even if you're a total beauty.

You're right, though.
 
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