How would you react to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rhlQUxSwNY

Just came across this video, I am sharing it with you now.
Personally I would have smashed his filming device on the floor.

People like this guy are clearly abusing of their 'freedom to film in a public place' , his only purpose is to upset people, this is downright harassment.

When people are given too much freedom they just don't know their limits anymore and forget what good sense means.
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
I'd either react the same way you'd react, Jungle. Or ah would probably react the same way that guy who was being filmed while on his phone does. Unless there was a legit reason for filming random people on the street - like doing a short opinion piece for a TV news network, for example.

People like this guy are clearly abusing of their 'freedom to film in a public place' , his only purpose is to upset people, this is downright harassment.

So... Just like the paparazzi in many ways.

When people are given too much freedom they just don't know their limits anymore and forget what good sense means.

Aye, that's very true. But that's how society appears to be nowadays, in my opinion.
 

Megaten

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They'd probably have to enact some new laws to deal with that kind of trolling as this wouldnt have been an issue a few generations back. Like how they just set this law in Texas that says you cant touch a pregnant woman's belly without her permission. Apparently folks got tired of strangers grabbing their stomach. Not sure how I would have reacted. Lol at the crackhead though.
 

SCP-087-1

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That's "surveillance camera man". I love that guy. I think it's nothing to be upset about. I disagree that he has too much freedom or is abusing any freedom he has. There are surveillance cameras everywhere and nobody gives a shit. There are even perimeter cams on buildings that film public places and no one cares. But if a guy is holding the camera then suddenly everyone is upset and apparently filming people warrants violence.

He doesn't film people for very long. Unless he gets a big reaction from them. If they spaz out and make a spectacle of themselves then he films them for longer. If they are calm and friendly he moves on quickly. Don't take shit so seriously

A few people have physically attacked him before. Just because he pointed a camera at them in a public place. It's bullshit to resort to violence because of that. It's as bad as those people that attack other people because they said a word they don't like. Offence isn't given it's taken
 

Megaten

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To be honest I think its more of the creep factor of having your personal space invaded by another human being. Those automated cams on buildings dont have a visible person working them so they can be ignored. I bet Id get the same response if I just sat at tables with people and stared at them or just stood next to a guy and looked intently at him for 5 mins lol.
 

SCP-087-1

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Still it's no reason to get upset. That's what gorillas do. Spazz out because someone looked at them. And if you made a law about it how would you enforce it? It's a public place. People are gonna film shit. You can't tell what the people were filming until you seize their camera. Good work protecting your freedom to not be filmed for 5 minutes by allowing other people to lose their freedom of not having their shit seized.

Also, OP. I wouldn't call it harassment. You're the subject of their attention for a few minutes. He doesn't relentlessly pursue a single person or anything.
 
If you don't like involuntarily being a source of entertainment for some random creep in the street you're a spaz and a Gorilla.
 

SCP-087-1

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Yeah twist my words instead of saying something related to the topic. Good work buddy :) You should join a debating team or something.

I was trying demonstrate how ridiculous it is to attack someone over this.

I wouldn't like it either. But I wouldn't freak out about it and I certainly wouldn't attack them.
 

Megaten

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Haha well we are technically primates so I wont deny that. I'm amazed every day we dont throw poop at each other. :bigsmile:
 
If it isn't harassment for the reasons you gave, it certainly is disturbing the peace and looking for trouble.

Being filmed by CCTVs is another story, since it's for security reasons... you're less prone to end up on youtube or facebook, hence potentially be the subject of people's mockeries, in case you don't keep control of your behaviour.


Think about someone being bullied or humiliated in public for some reason, having some bloke nearby pulling out his smartphone to immortalize the moment in order to spread it all over the internet.

Think about the psychological impact this would have on that poor someone.
 
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The dude is being kind of a jackass, but he really isn't harassing anyone. What you do in a public space is just as much a part of other peoples' lives as it is your own, and they have a right to film it. If it becomes a problem beyond mere annoyance, that's different, but this is filming people in public for a few seconds each.
 

worrywort

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I liked the 3rd guys reaction...the one with the black tank top, having the "private conversation". I think he handled it well. He began by being very courteous, then gradually ramped up his assertiveness, until eventually becoming pretty forward and aggressive to the guy which I think was called for because it's a form of bullying what the film-maker was doing. One of the most painful memories I have of my time at secondary school was of a guy who used to stare at me constantly, all class. He'd never look away. At first I'd laugh, and try to make a joke, but eventually I ran out of ways to respond to this guy, he was relentless and it just wore me down to a pulp, I felt so small and humiliated. Half the class could see what he was doing and were witnessing my awkward squirming and the utter defeat going on inside of me. Another person's gaze is a surprisingly powerful force.
 

SCP-087-1

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If it isn't harassment for the reasons you gave, it certainly is disturbing the peace and looking for trouble.

Being filmed by CCTVs is another story, since it's for security reasons... you're less prone to end up on youtube or facebook, hence potentially be the subject of people's mockeries, in case you don't keep control of your behaviour.


Think about someone being bullied or humiliated in public for some reason, having some bloke nearby pulling out his smartphone to immortalize the moment in order to spread it all over the internet.

Think about the psychological impact this would have on that poor someone.

There are billions of examples of cctv footage on youtube and facebook. Someone does something dumb, the cctv operator laughs and uploads it to the internet.

I am curious, why that particular avatar?

It's a cute lookin' cow. I like it. Why do you ask? I'm really confused as to why you would bring that up in this thread. Does it somehow remove credibility from what I say? I don't get it
 

Sacrament

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Those videos are from a guy called SurveillanceCameraMan. He has quite a few of those. In that specific situation, the more bothered you get, the more likely it is for him to keep annoying you. Then again, what he's doing is rare.
 

Bronson99

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The question relevant to this forum: does he appear to be "preying" more on shy/awkward folks than the average confident person?

I must admit, I did find many parts of this video funny, and I could not conceal a laugh. At the same time, I feel guilty for laughing so much, because I would absolutely hate to be a victim of this guy's camera in public. He's just trolling for laughs in the hopes he can establish a "brand" on YouTube or on the net, etc, for possible financial gain (advertising money, etc.)
 

PugofCrydee

You want to know how I got these scars?
Still it's no reason to get upset. That's what gorillas do. Spazz out because someone looked at them. And if you made a law about it how would you enforce it? It's a public place. People are gonna film shit. You can't tell what the people were filming until you seize their camera. Good work protecting your freedom to not be filmed for 5 minutes by allowing other people to lose their freedom of not having their shit seized.

Also, OP. I wouldn't call it harassment. You're the subject of their attention for a few minutes. He doesn't relentlessly pursue a single person or anything.

Mate, I have to disagree. Being filmed can be very invasive to a lot of people.
If that camera guy filmed me, I'd grab his phone and throw it fifty feet in the air so he could watch it come down and smash into a million pieces. Then I'd film his facial expressions as he watched and say 'you're right, filming and provoking people in to a reaction IS fun!'.
 
Its not in any way funny. He films people in distress and with questionable mental states. It is harassment as he doesn't comply with requests to stop (unless threats to call the police are made). It is edited, so we don't get to see all the reactions he received :thumbdown:
 
This is really interesting. It's a pretty powerful way of making a point. I wonder if this guy is a privacy activist. :thinking: I was curious so I looked it up and they say the average person in the UK is caught on CCTV 70 times a day. I thought that was quite low,I presume that's 'average' for across the UK I couldn't find any figures for the U.S I imagine its much higher.

This surveillance guy is essentially doing what the guys in surveillance control rooms do all day. Where I used to work I needed to get keys a couple times. I went to security and they had wall to wall screens zooming in on people, following them from one screen to the next as they walked past each CCTV camera, zooming in to see what they were eating or to objectify women.
 
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