What do you guys think of this generation today?

Either it rules or sucks. What do you think of the music today, the movies, politics, the people, and the technology? Do we live in a generation that looks okay or sucks?
 

MikeyC

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All generations have their good and bad. Any older people who say their generation was better only remember the good times. There were certainly bad times!

I don't like the politics but this generation has bought out some good heavy metal music that probably won't be surpassed so I'm very happy about that. :)
 

Hoppy

Well-known member
My great-grandfather said that the youth of his day was hopeless.
My grandfather said that the youth of his day was hopeless.
My father is saying that the youth of his day is hopeless.
And I will probable be complaing about the youth of my day.

Conclusion: While the youth is hopeless the world is OK.
 

irrational

Active member
The music sucks, nothing will beat the 90's rave scene in Europe. The gadgets are awesome, school is bleh, cars are insane ... 650HP of the dealer floor ... who woulda thunk ... Movies are terrible most of the time, some gems do slip through. I like the 'ban the bomb' protests back in the 80's. Not that I'm against the bomb, but people seemed to give a **** about something other then starbucks. We are the world, life aid, South Africa ... it seemed like we stood for something back then. This generation ... If I had to pick it doesn't suck but doesn't look great either.
 

Waybuloo

Well-known member
Either it rules or sucks. What do you think of the music today, the movies, politics, the people, and the technology? Do we live in a generation that looks okay or sucks?

This generation sucks.

Do you mean this generation as in time, or in today's youth?

I will talk about both.

Music videos in the mainstream suck big time. They undermine peoples intelligence and desensitise people, especially young ones, into thinking that is good entertainment and that you have to shake your booty in boys faces or that you have to dance around with multiple girls to look cool. The themese in these videos make me shudder with hopelesness. Incidentially my favourite songs usually come from the 80s and sometimes the 90s. There was a sense of comfort and of strong identity through music, nowadays it's obscure beyond post-modernism. I mean Lady gaga, what is she actually singing about? Does she have any expressions or emotions that are remotely human? There is just a sense of alienation and roboticness.

The movies industry have come a long way of course, since the black and white hollywood era. There are loads of variety now, and a more abstract type of cinema led by people like David Lynch, Lars von Trier who present, ideas in more interesting ways (and what some may say arty farty). But the point is that there are more variety but quality is not necessarily compromised.

Politics, there is less trust in politicians, less respect. There is less cohesion intra-party and less polarity inter party. All politicians seem the same. Big corporations and media moguls (as is the case in the UK and AUstralia) have a strong hold on politicians and public figures so that they tow the line of the moguls. Although I don't know if this had happened in past generations as well. Politics just seem like a big mess and not very inspirational. People lack the faith to vote or to trust the politicians to do what is best for them.

There is a great gap between the young and the old, partly due to technological polarity, partly due to less respect for the old in general. Celerbrities and media outlets portray a fear of looking old, of being old, and the resultant reactions and plastic surgeries fuel the fear of aging in the public. A lot of the disrespect start from the home, where children respect their parents less and less (partly due to hyper PCness intolerant of parents dishing out punishments); parents not utlising the matriarchal/patriarchal rule of past generations. There is a generation of youths left with empty hopes for a career or a future when mass manufacturing facilities and mining towns of the past no longer operate. Mass job migration of the blue collar grade overseas contribute to working class youths either stuck in retail or nothing at all. With no inspiration and no future, no pride in their trade, there is resentment and idleness; they do not care about the old, they do not care about society. Why should they, they feel left out and deserted by the system.

About technology, well, it's a case of either you are with us or against us. Either you jump on the bandwagon and have a rat race with all your friends to see who has what new model and when you are going to keep up. Or you stay obsolete and just get what you need and discard the noise. In an age of Facebook and Twitter, which are now influencing how crime is investigated, where news come from and how much one is kept in the loop in real life, well, social media is big. It's massive. I really wish it isn't. The whole thing is dehumanised, nothing but data and letters on a computer screen. Some have said that this alienated people and relegate human relationships to a superficial level. I have to agree. Social media cannot replace having a laugh face to face, or sharing intimate secrets and seeing eachothers reactions. I don't own an iphone, an ipod, or an ipad. I think these things are used by tech companies to sell you things you don't need nor want but which their advertising tells you otherwise.

Compared to the yesteryears, we have more choice and more technology (but much of it is unneccessary and only serves to confuse and feed the sheep mentality). We have less respect for people in general, and more and more relationships are superficial rather than meaningful. This generation will sooner or later wake people up. There are already movements that call for sustainability and living within your means, and even retro living. I hope the next generation will be a result of the lessons learnt in the present.
 
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coyote

Well-known member
the only constant in the universe is change itself

everything happens precisely when it is supposed to happen

this generation for this time

that generation for that time

there is no okay or not okay

it is what it is
 
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I have extreme mixed feelings about it.

I love technology for the entertainment and due refinement it has brought, but I equally hate how lazy and twitchy it has made people. ''Why don't you use a electric lawnmower? It's easier and faster.'', ''Why are you hand mixing that dough? Mixers aren't that expansive''. I am of the opinion that life (or at least mine) should require some physical effort on a daily basis, to such a extend that you don't need a gym to stay fit, but that's just me. I like effort, it makes me feel connected to the actual planet on which we enforced our human society.

Not to mention the advancement in technology to kill, that's a buzzkill to say the least. Then again, they did already have the atomic bomb 70 years ago, so that's not really something of the current generation.

Same thing with the youth. Some kids are obnoxious, violent, sadistic bastards, but I've seen a whole buck load of kids that were kinder, and sometimes wiser, then many adults I know.
 
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goldold

Active member
I like every generations music, but i dont really care about the rest...although i really love history and reading about social psychology<3 its just too funny.
 

recluse

Well-known member
I hate the music, the lack of respect, the materialism. I think it's an awfull era to live in because all socializing seems to be done over facebook.
 

Lexington

Banned
I hate the music, the lack of respect, the materialism. I think it's an awfull era to live in because all socializing seems to be done over facebook.

And forums like this one?

I like my generation. We are not perfect but neither are previous ones.
 

this_portrait

Well-known member
This generation sucks.

Do you mean this generation as in time, or in today's youth?

I will talk about both.

Music videos in the mainstream suck big time. They undermine peoples intelligence and desensitise people, especially young ones, into thinking that is good entertainment and that you have to shake your booty in boys faces or that you have to dance around with multiple girls to look cool. The themese in these videos make me shudder with hopelesness. Incidentially my favourite songs usually come from the 80s and sometimes the 90s. There was a sense of comfort and of strong identity through music, nowadays it's obscure beyond post-modernism. I mean Lady gaga, what is she actually singing about? Does she have any expressions or emotions that are remotely human? There is just a sense of alienation and roboticness.

The movies industry have come a long way of course, since the black and white hollywood era. There are loads of variety now, and a more abstract type of cinema led by people like David Lynch, Lars von Trier who present, ideas in more interesting ways (and what some may say arty farty). But the point is that there are more variety but quality is not necessarily compromised.

Politics, there is less trust in politicians, less respect. There is less cohesion intra-party and less polarity inter party. All politicians seem the same. Big corporations and media moguls (as is the case in the UK and AUstralia) have a strong hold on politicians and public figures so that they tow the line of the moguls. Although I don't know if this had happened in past generations as well. Politics just seem like a big mess and not very inspirational. People lack the faith to vote or to trust the politicians to do what is best for them.

There is a great gap between the young and the old, partly due to technological polarity, partly due to less respect for the old in general. Celerbrities and media outlets portray a fear of looking old, of being old, and the resultant reactions and plastic surgeries fuel the fear of aging in the public. A lot of the disrespect start from the home, where children respect their parents less and less (partly due to hyper PCness intolerant of parents dishing out punishments); parents not utlising the matriarchal/patriarchal rule of past generations. There is a generation of youths left with empty hopes for a career or a future when mass manufacturing facilities and mining towns of the past no longer operate. Mass job migration of the blue collar grade overseas contribute to working class youths either stuck in retail or nothing at all. With no inspiration and no future, no pride in their trade, there is resentment and idleness; they do not care about the old, they do not care about society. Why should they, they feel left out and deserted by the system.

About technology, well, it's a case of either you are with us or against us. Either you jump on the bandwagon and have a rat race with all your friends to see who has what new model and when you are going to keep up. Or you stay obsolete and just get what you need and discard the noise. In an age of Facebook and Twitter, which are now influencing how crime is investigated, where news come from and how much one is kept in the loop in real life, well, social media is big. It's massive. I really wish it isn't. The whole thing is dehumanised, nothing but data and letters on a computer screen. Some have said that this alienated people and relegate human relationships to a superficial level. I have to agree. Social media cannot replace having a laugh face to face, or sharing intimate secrets and seeing eachothers reactions. I don't own an iphone, an ipod, or an ipad. I think these things are used by tech companies to sell you things you don't need nor want but which their advertising tells you otherwise.

Compared to the yesteryears, we have more choice and more technology (but much of it is unneccessary and only serves to confuse and feed the sheep mentality). We have less respect for people in general, and more and more relationships are superficial rather than meaningful. This generation will sooner or later wake people up. There are already movements that call for sustainability and living within your means, and even retro living. I hope the next generation will be a result of the lessons learnt in the present.

^ I like the points you bring up. :)

The more I research about decades past, I would have loved to have been the age I am now in the 80's or 90's. I grew up in the 90's, though, so I do remember the days before every schmuck had a cell phone and internet access. The music (particularly rock music) was also a lot more distinct sound-wise and didn't all sound the same like much of the music today.

As for politicians, I think that whole realm has always been corrupt for years; it's just that it took being effed over and lied to many times before the general public could finally become less trusting of the government. Not terribly surprising.

I could rant for hours about the kids of today. One of my roommates from last year was complaining about how all little girls nowadays just want to be "hot" and that's it (versus when my generation wanted to be "princesses" growing up). I definitely feel like the kids of today are going to be some of the most vapid, superficial harpies to ever walk this planet when they get older, if society keeps promoting all the trash it's been promoting lately.
 

recluse

Well-known member
And forums like this one?

I like my generation. We are not perfect but neither are previous ones.

Yeah and forums like this one. It makes me sad that social contact is mainly internet based. Then again if it wasn't for the internet i would be even lonelier than i am. I really don't know how i survived before getting the net.
 

Silentknight

Well-known member
I like this generation :)

Music: Please stop assuming that all or even most of the younger generation listen to the crap on MTV, yes it seems like they all do, but that is because of the media only focusing on whatever record companies ask them to focus on. If you want proof that this generation has some awesome music just look at the indie scene, groups like Fun. and Awolnation are incredible bands that have a large young audience, while singer-songwriters like Julia Nunes and ReinaDelCid have huge followings on youtube. If you lump this generations music as only Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga because they're the chart toppers you are forgetting that some of the greatest bands & artists never had #1 albums in the US (e.g. The Who, David Bowie, Rush...) Don't let the folks at Billboard trick you into thinking this generation has no good music.

Social: Look how politcal this generation has become due to the Internet. The Arab Spring, the Icelandic Revolution, the protests in Greece, and of course the Occupy movement, whether you agree with these movements or not they are movements, signs of change started by young people. To call this generation lazy is an insult to the work done by the youth of this world, groups like Peta2, and To Write Love On Her Arms, are made almost entirely by Millennials. This generation will be the first in history to reach an almost global unity due to the rise of social networks, so although to many people it may seem like this generation is anti-social due to sites like facebook the fact is the idea of "what is social" is changing, things like this forum and sites like twitter, although seemingly populated by vain people, are actually just as an important part of being a social person to this generation as a normal face to face conversation.
 
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Lexington

Banned
Yeah and forums like this one. It makes me sad that social contact is mainly internet based. Then again if it wasn't for the internet i would be even lonelier than i am. I really don't know how i survived before getting the net.

So I guess what you are saying is that the Internet is a mixed blessing.

Not sure if this the main issue of the thread, but "happiness" has been alluded to a few times..(Waybuloo and Recluse perhaps)

I too wonder if previous generations were happier than us young ones..(before the Net)
Was it easier to meet the opposite sex then? I mean now everyone seems to use the net to hook up..(not that it has helped me any:))
I sometimes think I live in a virtual world all the time. Nothing seems real. Even RL seems unreal to me!
 

Silentknight

Well-known member
I could rant for hours about the kids of today.

And I could argue for hours about the pros of this generation.

One of my roommates from last year was complaining about how all little girls nowadays just want to be "hot" and that's it (versus when my generation wanted to be "princesses" growing up).

Than your roommate is only focusing on a small segment of the large young female population. You can't compare perceived ideas of a different gender during different generations.

I definitely feel like the kids of today are going to be some of the most vapid, superficial harpies to ever walk this planet when they get older, if society keeps promoting all the trash it's been promoting lately.

What an insulting thing to say about an entire generation again based on a perception not facts. The fact is college enrollment is at an all time high with 18-24 year olds.
 

twiggle

Well-known member
It has its good and bad, like all the previous ones. I like the fact that globalisation has advanced as much as it has, and we're now more in touch with the rest of the world than ever. I like how diverse society is too.

I don't like modern day chart music and feel it has become a lot more 'sexualised' than it used to be... I miss the old bubblegum pop of the '90s haha. Then again, the indie-pop bands around at the moment are the best ever methinks, so this generation does produce some good music :)

I think it's getting harder and harder for music/movies to be 'different' these days... because there has been so much before it that it's harder to write something that doesn't sound like anything else heard previously.

And movies? I don't really watch movies anyway. I only watch world cinema. But I'd say that the 1980's produced the best films :p
 
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