Thanks Jack,
I had decided to end this discussion coz it's very hard for me to continue according to my bad English.
First, I appreciate your kind way of discussing. Because being generous shows that one has many things(whether material or spiritual) and doesn't fear to lose some of them.
Of course, It's very hard for me to understand your literature.
I've answered many of your questions about Genocide,…before so I only say what I haven't said before.
Yes, Ehsan, but the squirrel *HAS* to be seen to convince people! If acorns disappear from under a tree how can anyone say that the squirrel did it if it wasn't known for a fact that a squirrel did take them at all? It may be *BELIEVED* that they were taken, but belief and fact are totally different things. Though it wouldn't be safe to eat, someone can collect them off the ground and have other uses for them.
People can eat acorns!
One of the biggest problem is that people seek scientific evidence to accept GOD. When you want to prove something with your knowledge you need to be predominant over it. At least you should be able to encompass it into your mind. But how you can encompass GOD inyo your mind to prove him.
He is the creator of our brain, time, space, maths, physics, nature…. and every other thing you can see or imagine.
Is it possible for one of your books to prove existence of you for other books? while, you aren't even the main creator of book(GOD is.)
So our only tool to believe in GOD is our wisdom and love. Of curse there are some philosophic proofs too that I never mind them.
Once again I recall this word:
Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge?
Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?
What irritates me more than anything is that Islam, Christianity and Judaism all are religions that are based upon one man, Abraham, who is written in the Bible to live to be 175 years old! I won't get into the crazy ages of the other people found in the Bible because the age of the characters is just one of the problems I have with religion.
Genesis 25:7-8- Death of Abraham
Living for 175 years isn't weird these days but what do you say if you hear about Nuh who lived 950 years:
Quran(29:14):
"and certainly we sent nuh to his people, so he remained among them a thousand years save fifty years. and the deluge overtook them, while they were unjust"
Also we believe that Jesus and some other ones are still alive.
if you belive in GOD you also believe that anything isn't impossible for him coz
he isn't imprisoned by nature laws while we are. He is creator of nature laws himself and is able to change them whenever he wants.
Abraham was one of the most wise persons ever lived. See how Abraham believes in GOD:
Quran(6:76-78):
so when the night over-shadowed him, he saw a star; said he: is this my lord? so when it set, he said: i do not love the setting ones (76) then when he saw the moon rising, he said: is this my lord? so when it set, he said: if my lord had not guided me i should certainly be of the erring people (77) then when he saw the sun rising, he said: is this my lord? is this the greatest? so when it set, he said: o my people! surely i am clear of what you set up (with allah) (78) surely i have turned myself, being upright, wholly to him who originated the heavens and the earth, and i am not of the polytheists
I just want to build on the fact that Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all related:
Islam and Christianity = 99% the SAME religion
Abrahamic Religions- Wikipedia
Judaism, Islam, Christianity - Comparison
Ehsan, I urge you to examine at least two of the three links above. I simply believe there is more to life than to believe that people have lived to be 175 years old, there was a great flood that drowned the sinful people by a spirit who grants afterlife and so on.
Ok, Abrahamic religions have many similarities and this is not a weak point. It shows that GOD has sent all of them.
Quran(6:82)
"and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: we are christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly"
There is just simply more to life than believing in a monotheistic religion.
I hope you understand what i mean:
"thought of not existing" is the most horrible "myth" ever because:
How we can feel inexistence ourselves while we exist? and who can feel/think about inexistence when he/she don't exist?
could you even imagine inexistence of yourself?
"to be or not to be, that's the question."
Sorry, but if you are ambitious then there isn't anything worth living without eternal existence.
For me living 1 year isn't different with 1000 years if my life will end with "total annihilation".
Enter my own faith.
I am not sure what I really believe but I have been clairvoyant. I have seen many things come to pass as an event that unfolded before me or an event that I had participated in, willingly or unwillingly.
My visions never really say when or how, who or what, beyond what is given to me in a dream. The visions are vague but when I examine the dream and what actually happened, it makes me feel kind of eerie and more than just a little speechless. I get my visions when my mind is pure and empty, like when I am falling asleep, or getting up for the morning. Perhaps this is when I am busy to the point I have to flush out everything but the essentials of what I am doing.
In any case, I have an event play in my head, like a dream. Something happens and I can take it with a grain of salt. But lately, I feel that I should not say, "oh, wow, okay, this happens... so what, it's just a thought, it means nothing..." especially if someone's life is in danger or there is some other risk to life, liberty and happiness. Ehsan, you can tell me that it's some form of witchcraft or that I'm taken over by demons, that since I don't follow any religion, I cannot possibly be a prophet, or have a "powers" of any kind of prophet. That is your belief, but that's not what happened to me since 2002.
I've heard lots about ones with such powers but I've never seen myself, so I can't say anything. Anyway such powers aren't enough for mankind to be replaced with religion. Also these powers are rare personal powers and aren't a solution for mankind.
I'm not a warrior in any sense, yet wars are being waged by beliefs for which some are those you believe yourself.
Jihad as Found in Judaism, Christianity and Islam
And in this sense of war, we have nothing. We have nothing because we kill in the name of God, a God that nobody sees and as far as I know doesn't even exist... in the way you believe he does. You hold on to a belief of a squirrel that can convince 10 million atheists. But the squirrel is just a myth, a superstition, a shadow of something else, like a great flood, a virgin birth or how creation happened were all myths too.
To actually be better humans, we should not be killing major groups of populations in major wars to feed the needs of a major spirit who can (reportedly) do it himself if he so chooses! If we want to survive as a civilization, we ought to know that it takes many different perspectives to make the world work! That's why the world is three dimensional to begin with! If the world was flat, then maybe a one-sided religion (or a world full of one sided religions) WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE (...we have this corner of the world, they can take that corner...)!
I've said lots about these claims before.
Anyway I can't remember when we have killed major groups of populations but I can remember when unbelievers killed major groups of populations.
saying "peace" over and over doesn't change anything coz in such a world anyone thinks to his/her benefits. things get far worse in a materialist world.
You should be ready to devote your life to fight oppression, injustice, … while you aren't allowed to kill even an innocent animal and this is called "Jihad". I will send you an article describing "Jihad" someday.
Maybe some lost believer do some bad deeds but you shouldn't forget that US used atomic energy to kill over 200,000 Japanese in several hours and
this doesn't show that atomic energy is bad. You can use everything in correct or wrong ways.
I was feeling atheist when i was 18. I discussed kindly with my fanatic friends in university a lot and no one killed me even no one even blamed me. I returned to my religion after several years.
However saying somethings about Islam in public media, isn't legal here but it has political roots not religious.
our leaders used to debate with unbelievers in mosque.
