What RELIGION are you?

[Thelema]

Yeah, they're rewarded 72 virgins in the afterlife for suicide bombing innocent people. Makes perfect sense to me.

That's not fair. People claim Hitler was an atheist so ipso facto atheists like to gas Jews.

Every religion has it's radical parts, it's just a natural progression of a religion or even an idea. Every religion has it's crazy members and when you get a bunch of them together....

 

[Nervous]

That's not fair. People claim Hitler was an atheist so ipso facto atheists like to gas Jews.

Every religion has it's radical parts, it's just a natural progression of a religion or even an idea. Every religion has it's crazy members and when you get a bunch of them together....

Actually, Hitler was a Roman Catholic. He wasn't a religious fanatic though. There were Christians as well as Pagans in the NSDAP.

 

[SickJoke]

That's not fair. People claim Hitler was an atheist so ipso facto atheists like to gas Jews.

Every religion has it's radical parts, it's just a natural progression of a religion or even an idea. Every religion has it's crazy members and when you get a bunch of them together....

Even if Hitler was an atheist (he was Roman Catholic), he didn't do his terrible deeds in the NAME of atheism. Islamic suicide bombers DO, do their terrible deeds in the NAME of Islam. Their religion specifically says they will be rewarded in the afterlife for their horrible actions.

Edit: Just to explain further, so I'm clear. Hitler also had a mustache, does that mean people with mustaches like to gas Jews? If he happened to be an atheist, there is no atheistic dogma that would motivate his actions. Islam, on the other hand, can be used to motivate disgusting acts such as suicide bombs, with the promise of 72 virgins in the after life.

Religion is a mental disorder. Seek help people.

 

[Bianca]

Who are you to tell people what is and is not right? Who are you to tell us what we should believe? It was messed up how you attacked Ehsan for what he believes in. I didn't see him attack your religious views. It is unfair for you to criticize him.

But what am I babbling on about? You know everything, everyone else knows nothing, and it's up to you to educate all of us poor morons with your infinite wisdom. Thank you so much.

 

[SickJoke]

Who are you to tell people what is and is not right? Who are you to tell us what we should believe? It was messed up how you attacked Ehsan for what he believes in. I didn't see him attack your religious views. It is unfair for you to criticize him.

But what am I babbling on about? You know everything, everyone else knows nothing, and it's up to you to educate all of us poor morons with your infinite wisdom. Thank you so much.

He can't attack my religious views because I have none I'm an atheist: devoid of religion. I make no apology for attacking religion, just as I make no apology for attacking any other delusions. The "holy" books are the same as any other fairy tales. It's nonsense. Anyone in the 21st century who believes in it is IRRATIONAL. There is absolutely no evidence to support it. If it was harmless, maybe I wouldn't care, but it is the biggest source of pointless violence in human history.

 

[Bianca]

Well I didn't see him attacking you for being an atheist. Seriously, get over yourself.

 

[SickJoke]

Well I didn't see him attacking you for being an atheist. Seriously, get over yourself.

There's no reason for him to attack atheism; it's logical and harmless. Religion is illogical and destructive.

 

[Ehsan]

Even if Hitler was an atheist (he was Roman Catholic), he didn't do his terrible deeds in the NAME of atheism. Islamic suicide bombers DO, do their terrible deeds in the NAME of Islam. Their religion specifically says they will be rewarded in the afterlife for their horrible actions.

Edit: Just to explain further, so I'm clear. Hitler also had a mustache, does that mean people with mustaches like to gas Jews? If he happened to be an atheist, there is no atheistic dogma that would motivate his actions. Islam, on the other hand, can be used to motivate disgusting acts such as suicide bombs, with the promise of 72 virgins in the after life.

Religion is a mental disorder. Seek help people.

Hitler was much worse than any suicide bomber coz he slaughtered millions of jews not only for his beliefs or power but also because of racism.
i can remember ten thousands of muslims who have been killed by suicide bombers while they was praying in the middle east. suicide bombers are only some few deviated radicals which are hateful anywhere in the world.
anyone doesn't kill innocents in the name of GOD. this is absurd.
we all want divine religions to help us not to bother ourselves. so it's better to end this aggressive discussion about islam.

 

[SickJoke]

Hitler was much worse than any suicide bomber coz he slaughtered millions of jews not only for his beliefs or power but also because of racism.
i can remember ten thousands of muslims who have been killed by suicide bombers while they was praying in the middle east. suicide bombers are only some few deviated radicals which are hateful anywhere in the world.
anyone doesn't kill innocents in the name of GOD. this is absurd.
we all want divine religions to help us not to bother ourselves. so it's better to end this aggressive discussion about islam.

Did you miss the point? Hitler didn't do any of that in the name of atheism.

No one kills innocents in the name of GOD? Does 9/11 ring a bell to you?

Religion is bullshit. Just because it's comforting doesn't make it true.

 

[Ehsan]

He can't attack my religious views because I have none I'm an atheist: devoid of religion. I make no apology for attacking religion, just as I make no apology for attacking any other delusions. The "holy" books are the same as any other fairy tales. It's nonsense. Anyone in the 21st century who believes in it is IRRATIONAL. There is absolutely no evidence to support it. If it was harmless, maybe I wouldn't care, but it is the biggest source of pointless violence in human history.

you said that atheism is harmless. do you forget genocide of over 50 millions of innocents in china or over 20 millions in USSR by communists.
a real religious one is responsible for every little thing he/she does and can only kill others when he/she is defending him/herself but an irreligious one can slaughter millions without any reason.

 

[SickJoke]

you said that atheism is harmless. do you forget genocide of over 50 millions of innocents in china or over 20 millions in USSR by communists.

a real religious one is responsible for every little thing he/she does and can only kill others when he/she is defending him/herself but an irreligious one can slaughter millions without any reason.

There is NOTHING about atheism that encourages violence. It is simply the lack of belief in a god, nothing more than that.

The "holy" books are FILLED with encouragements for genocide, slavery, and many, many more horrible, disgusting acts.

WE DO NOT GET OUR MORALS FROM RELIGION. Other mammals have a sense of morals as well. Morality comes from EVOLUTION and SOCIETY.

 

[Nervous]

There is NOTHING about atheism that encourages violence. It is simply the lack of belief in a god, nothing more than that.

The "holy" books are FILLED with encouragements for genocide, slavery, and many, many more horrible, disgusting acts.

WE DO NOT GET OUR MORALS FROM RELIGION. Other mammals have a sense of morals as well. Morality comes from EVOLUTION and SOCIETY.

I can see why they banned you at SAS. This is a mental health forum, not a place to debate religion.

Just to clear some things up. Hitler didn't do what he did in the name of atheism or Roman Catholicism. His ideology was National Socialism and that was his driving force.

 

[SickJoke]

I can see why they banned you at SAS. This is a mental health forum, not a place to debate religion.

Well this is the Off Topic section, and the topic is religion, so it's very appropriate to discuss and debate religion in this thread.

 

[Ehsan]

D
No one kills innocents in the name of GOD? Does 9/11 ring a bell to you?

you seem smart,
think further about 9/11.
that's more greater than an operation done by dozens of terrorists. there are lots of evidences about it.

 

[SickJoke]

you seem smart,

Thanks.

think further about 9/11.

I already have.

that's more greater than an operation done by dozens of terrorists. there are lots of evidences about it.

The Islamic hijackers were promised 72 virgins in the after life for doing what they did. I'm not interested in any conspiracy theories. Do more research and you'll see every popular conspiracy theory about 9/11 is false.

There are countless other historic examples of horrible deeds done in the name of religion.

The holy books themselves are filled with stories of genocide, slavery, and other terrible acts.

Religion is THE biggest source of pointless violence in human history.

 

[Ehsan]

Thanks.

I already have.

The Islamic hijackers were promised 72 virgins in the after life for doing what they did. I'm not interested in any conspiracy theories. Do more research and you'll see every popular conspiracy theory about 9/11 is false.

There are countless other historic examples of horrible deeds done in the name of religion.

The holy books themselves are filled with stories of genocide, slavery, and other terrible acts.

Religion is THE biggest source of pointless violence in human history.

you can find 72 million virgins in islamic countries.

have you ever seen 9/11: The Big Lie by L'Effroyable imposture or
The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11.
anyway i don't mind any theory. it's obvious that such attacks ain't possible without assistance of CIA. it was really a complex operation which used as an excuse for many wars,... afterwards.

 

[Nervous]

you can find 72 million virgins in islamic countries.

have you ever seen 9/11: The Big Lie by L'Effroyable imposture or
The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11.
anyway i don't mind any theory. it's obvious that such attacks ain't possible without assistance of CIA. it was really a complex operation which used as an excuse for many wars,... afterwards.

Let's not forget about the Mossad

And the Israelis dressed as Arabs that were dancing when 9/11 happened and said they were filming it lol

 

[SickJoke]

you can find 72 million virgins in islamic countries.

have you ever seen 9/11: The Big Lie by L'Effroyable imposture or
The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11.
anyway i don't mind any theory. it's obvious that such attacks ain't possible without assistance of CIA. it was really a complex operation which used as an excuse for many wars,... afterwards.

Anti-American psychotic delusions. Here you go, start reading:
Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

How about some more examples of the horrors of religion?

The Crusades continued from the 11th all the way to the end of 17th century.

Female genital mutilation, honor killings, terrorist attacks, suicide cults, and ethnic cleansings still occur TO THIS DAY and are all either directly influenced by religion or it is a factor.

All of this because some people place extra importance on their special book of fairy tales.

 

[Nervous]

Anti-American psychotic delusions. Here you go, start reading:
Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

How about some more examples of the horrors of religion?

The Crusades continued from the 11th all the way to the end of 17th century.

Female genital mutilation, honor killings, terrorist attacks, suicide cults, and ethnic cleansings still occur TO THIS DAY and are all either directly influenced by religion or it is a factor.

All of this because some people place extra importance on their special book of fairy tales.

You forgot to mention male genital mutilation.

 

[bleach]

WE DO NOT GET OUR MORALS FROM RELIGION. Other mammals have a sense of morals as well. Morality comes from EVOLUTION and SOCIETY.

Our societies are all shaped to some degree by religion

And if it is truly so evolutionary deterministic, then you have little reason to even be arguing against religion which can only be an extension of the 'programming' people already have

You have no cohesive argument at all, you're just throwing shit against the wall