What do you think about religion?

Gaucho

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i wonder much about religion, but i never get a 100% convincement. . but for now I'm atheist.
 
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MrSunday

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i dont beleive in a relgion but i do beleive that someone or something created us, the only problem i find is there is so many religions now, how can you be sure what one is real and what is not.

Hi,

All you have to do is study each religion. Try it. It will also help you to gain more knowledge.

Once you studied each religion, you can decide which one makes the most sense to you or you can choose not to follow a religion at all.

Here's a good starting point:

BBC - Religion: Religions
 

Gaucho

Well-known member
Hi,

All you have to do is study each religion. Try it. It will also help you to gain more knowledge.

Once you studied each religion, you can decide which one makes the most sense to you or you can choose not to follow a religion at all.

Here's a good starting point:

BBC - Religion: Religions

hey, i think i read u are from a arabian country, so you may be a muslim? is that correct? you don't have to answer if you don't want.:)
 

MrSunday

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My view is that people need to learn how to be "good" people without feeling they need a religion to do so.

What does it mean to be good?

Some people think abortions is wrong.
Other people believe animal testing is immoral but while others support it.
Then there are people who support using a nuclear bomb against "rogue/dangerous" nations.
Some people support the death penalty while others oppose it.

There are some issues where it is quite difficult to establish what is right and what is wrong. Therefore some people turn to religion. Others may explore alternative options...
 

HumanZ

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Faith is a personal, fine and desirable thing in my opinion.

When faith becomes religion, it's getting more doubtful because it isn't personal anymore but a social union of people who think they believe in the same way. Different opinions generate contradictions and diffenrent views.

When religion becomes a church, it's a political, ideological and economical organisation that has usage of authority and hierarchy. Thus all the fineness which one had initially, will be forgotten.

I could explain my opinion much better in my own language but nobody would understand. :D

I'm atheist btw.
 

Rainbow7

Member
Honestly, I think religion is a personal choice someone makes to live after and follow. I don't like those type of people who tries to throw religion at someone, I also think it's wrong for people to judge others based on what they believe in. As far as I can remember I've always been a christian and it suits my life very well.
 

Gaucho

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in my view religion is a creation from men, to dictate the human race. if you think about it, nobody doubts about religions, when actually its the most unrealistic thing there is. it got so much power over hundred and thousand of years that its just something "Normal/standard" that nobody doubts about it. to believe and strange and bad seen to not believe.
 

MrSunday

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in my view religion is a creation from men, to dictate the human race. if you think about it, nobody doubts about religions, when actually its the most unrealistic thing there is. it got so much power over hundred and thousand of years that its just something "Normal/standard" that nobody doubts about it. to believe and strange and bad seen to not believe.

I think some human beings will use whatever is available to control others. Nothing wrong with control, but too much of it can be oppressive.

Actually there are followers of religions that have doubts. Some end up leaving the religion as a result. Others have doubts, investigate them and decide to follow the religion as usual.

As for power, currently the influence of religion is diminishing. More and more people are becoming secular. Some claim to follow a religion but behave in a manner that is contrary to their religious beliefs... A good example is Saudi Arabia. The monarchy has made changes that is very slowly leading to secularism such as free mixing.

Also I would like to mention something else...like North Korea. With the complete absence of religion or belief in a higher being, some may even start to look at human being as gods...I could be wrong but is this a possibility?
 
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Starry

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Personally I think all religion is created by man... They all have good points to them, and usually these are held in common. They all have bad points too, however...

Personally, I am a Deist... I believe in a Deity based upon knowledge and reason, not what anyone tells me to believe. Science and fact are incredibly important to me, and personally I believe the evidence points to there being a Deity (Well, I'd have to, I wouldn't be a Deist otherwise, would I?), not one who is involved in the day to day life or who causes miracles, but a Deity nonetheless...

My personal morals are based upon goodness and complete respect for all life. End suffering wherever possible, do not cause it and Love should dominate all... Very simple.

I have nothing to do with any particular religion, though I do find religions fascinating to look into...
 

Hellhound

Super Moderator
I have my set of beliefs but I don't make a huge deal out of it. I respect other people's religions too as long as they respect mine and don't come and shove their beliefs down my throat.
 

MrSunday

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I have my set of beliefs but I don't make a huge deal out of it. I respect other people's religions too as long as they respect mine and don't come and shove their beliefs down my throat.

An interesting point you raised. Can certain religious conduct make you feel that religious beliefs are being forced upon you?

Like let's say your in a business meeting and someone read a passage from the Bible or a religious book. All you have to do is listen. Would you find this acceptable? I personally don't since its a business meeting and not a religious event, but then again, I would not say anything. I'd just accept it like most things I don't agree with.
 
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Hellhound

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An interesting point you raised. Can certain religious conduct make you feel that religious beliefs are being forced upon you?

Yes. A good example could be experiences from my past. I was sent to Christian schools and kids were forced to pray, praise God, you were told you're going to Hell if you do what God doesn't approve of, which was pretty much everything... Everything was a sin, they'd make you feel guilty for doing natural human things like eating, sleeping, feeling upset. They would make you feel guilty for being born on the first place, because "we are born sinners and worthless" (quoting a teacher).

I remember when we had sex Ed. and some kid got into the topic of masturbation. We were told we are free to do what we want, but it was a sin and God would be upset. It was a massive mindf*ck. It was also a sin to look at porn and/or get horny. Sex in general was a sin unless it was used for the sole purpose of procreation.

We were bombed with these ideas for years and we weren't allowed to believe other things, otherwise you were guilt tripped until you repented.

Like let's say your in a business meeting and someone read a passage from the Bible or a religious book. All you have to do is listen. Would you find this acceptable? I personally don't since its a business meeting and not a religious event, but then again, I would not say anything. I'd just accept it like most things I don't agree with.

I'd find it a bit annoying, but I wouldn't care much unless the person starts treating me like the people at school treated me. Others can practice their religion the way they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone.
 

HumanZ

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About Christianity..

In Christianity, I don't understand why are we humans so special. Why are we different than other mammals? Uniques on the planet we live? Or even in the universe?

About the organized religion. If we are talking about for example many aboriginals around the world. If there is somewhere an island in the Pacific Ocean that has a tribe of aboriginals who has never heard anything about God or Jesus, are they automaticallygoing to hell? What's the logic, I don't get it.

Why would they be more bad people than us? They can live in harmony with the nature, appreciate others and be notably better people than some fanatic religious politicians who blindly believe Jesus' every word and follow every rules of him causing suffer to many people. Again, what's the logic?

I'm not ruling out there isn't any god. Religion is a bad subject to argue. And the world would be a considerably better place if everyone let people believe what they want..

Sry for bad English.
 

OceanMist

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As long as religion is fair, I have nothing against it. I am a Christian but not a "good" Christian if that makes sense. I drink, gamble and have fornicated.

I'm kind of a live and let live person. As long as you aren't shooting up movie theaters (example), then have at it, hoss.
 

Foxface

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I'm not agains treligon, as long as it dosent go against my beliefs, such as Naturism. Unfortunately, due to a misunderstanding in the Bible that clearly states the wholesome nudity is not sinful and is the way to be, and clothes are only worn when needed (such as from the cold, walking to stuff like thorn bushes etc), many religous are against it.

Does it make sense for one of God's greatest makings to be sinful? I think not!

On the otherhand, there are many relgious folks, who are Naturists and feel closer to God, when nude, which makes sense.
 

oddOne

Active member
As of the time of this post, I’m 27 years old. Twenty of my years were spent being subjected to Christian indoctrination. Despite that, I’m now an Atheist. Why? It’s very simple. I don’t trust institutions that rely on circular logic to convey/spread/explain their message.
 

Engulfed707

Active member
Leave me alone and you have my respect. That's what I think about religions. There's plenty of good people out there who choose to believe and that's fine with me. I just choose not to.
 
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