SLEEP-I need it

JackOfSpades

JackOfSpades

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When I used to lay up in bed, I'd get out and do pushups till I couldn't, immediately switch to situps till I couldn't, then back to pushups till I couldn't and around and round till I was exhausted.
 
OCDd

OCDd

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oh man, im sorry your going through this, i have experienced this occasional too. and yea i did the same thing, i just ate a bunch of food and i would be able to fall asleep (they are a little different then jaim38's) but this has helped me and i hope it works for you too. i listen to this same video before bed, i do this even when i can fall asleep, its very relaxing: 75 minutes of thunder and rain - relaxing noise for your ears - YouTube its not music but its a rain and thunderstorm and no the thunder doesn't make you more anxious, listen to it at a low level and shut your eyes and lay down very comfortable on your bed in your favorite sleeping position, whether you like to flip the pillow to the cold side or whatever, do that. and just lay their with your eyes closed and really try to listen to every rain drop and in the video their is a picture of a cactus, (its a desert storm) what works for me is to picture me walking around in the same desert when its rainy and a little dark. i picture myself as being warm and tired and worn out from walking all day, i just picture my self walking in the warm, (not hot) desert, rainstorm and getting more tired with each step as i listen to each rain drop. this works for me, make sure that when you do this you are comfortable and your eyes are shut and really make the visuals of you walking around and you are all alone in the desert (not scary alone) just alone, and calm, and warm (not hot) and just listen to the rain and with the getting more tired with every couple steps too. also this works too, listen to the rainstorm while counting backwards in your head from 300 by threes (with your eyes shut). Hope this helps you out and God Bless :) Oh also, you may need to turn up the volume in the video a lot, as it is very low volume
 
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21NZ

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i have the same problem as you OP, don't sleep to 5.00 -6.00 am some days i don't even bother to go to bed and go for a walk...
 
gustavofring

gustavofring

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Last night was bad for me too. Drank a whole bottle of cola (damn caffeine urge) and went on a crazy work spree late at night that lasted until morning and then I decided to do an all nighter..

Today I felt absolutely horrible, I even cried on my own because I felt so depressed with everything, recent breakup, not being able to find a job, etc. I'm sure lack of sleep and the caffeine rush made the emotions far worse. After the crying I took a nap and I felt a little better.

I seem to be having the same problem, because the days are filled with inactiveness and unproductivty, I get that urge to do things late at night. Not a healthy lifestyle for me. Just when I thought I had somewhat control over my sleeping habits, it slowly got out of control again.
 
Flanscho

Flanscho

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Ah, sorry, I don't know anything about sleeping pills.

I love sleep, I need a lot of it. While I was self employed, I sometimes worked late in the night, like up to 4am, and then slept half of the day. Then I accepted a full time job, and was in the office each day at 8 am. Or still am. That was quite a change.

I don't have any problems finding sleep though. I could sleep about everywhere, always.
 
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Raichel

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Hi, I've suffered from insomnia in the past and I know how frustrating it can be. Unfortenately none of the regular advices like "warm milk, exercise, relaxing music, meditating, etc, etc" helped for me.

My psychiatrist prescribed Seroquel. This is an atypical antipsychotic, however in very low dosages (50 - 100mg) it just makes you feel very sleepy and stops you from worrying all the time. Been using it for two months now, and it has really helped me.

The only other thing that sometimes (not that often sadly) helps me falling asleep are ASMR videos. Admittedly this only works if the person experiences ASMR, although some people who do no not experience the feeling have reported they find the video very relaxing nonetheless. There are tons of ASMR videos on youtube, plenty of different people with different voices/accents making them so there's something for everyone.
 
MollyBeGood

MollyBeGood

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I sympathize with you. I am more on the sleep too much track myself. I rarely get insomnia...when I do I really hate it. I love to sleep. Reading always gets me right away to fall asleep or watching a movie in bed I can usually get sleepy doing that too.

meditation, relaxing music, yoga all really good ideas. I know there are herbal remedies too that help people sleep. Try to do a search on the different kinds available. Also I get Seasonal effective disorder in the winter so if I use a light therapy box that helps my sleeping patterns. Maybe that would help you? Best to keep a more rigorous schedule of waking early so that you have a chance to be tired in the evenings. Exercise is a great idea too. Get physically exhausted..

best of luck!
 
chris11

chris11

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ImNotMyIllness said:
Hi all!

I've always been a night owl. It's my quiet time. My time to myself. I feel most alert and energetic from 10:00pm-1:00am. If I have to do anything that requires a lot of thinking or creativity, that's the time I do it.

...........Here's where it gets strange. I seem to have this love/hate relationship with sleep. I don't like to go to bed early because I think subconsciously I feel that my day was wasted AND I dread waking up to another day.....I think I'm afraid of tomorrow coming and that is part of why I avoid sleep.

Not only do I avoid sleep but I also have troubles getting to sleep. There are many days when I do need to be in bed at a decent hour. My solution is to eat late at night. I CARBO SLAM. It's the only way I can fall asleep. I will eat 1000 calories or more an hour before bed. That is the ONLY way I can fall asleep at night. I've been doing this for many years. It's my guaranteed solution.

EXCEPT, it NO longer works! For the past 9 months I have fallen into a horrible pattern (even for me). I don't go to sleep until at least 4am. Now, I can't fall asleep before that time. Today, I feel asleep at 5:30am. Sleeping pills don't really work (off counter) and only give me nightmares.

.........Reading before bed, only amps me up.....And lately, my thoughts are racing. I'm very nervous about trying to sleep early tonight. I hate just laying there with my eyes open. I now have freak'n bags under my eyes. I feel like crap!

Does anyone recommend a prescription sleeping pill that is not a benzo?


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Hey there. Zopiclone is a really effective sleep medication, that's not a benzo. However, it can be addictive. I'de recomend it for around a month, then you'll probally be back to normal.
 
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ImNotMyIllness

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chris11 said:
Hey there. Zopiclone is a really effective sleep medication, that's not a benzo. However, it can be addictive. I'de recomend it for around a month, then you'll probally be back to normal.
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Good advice everyone. Thanks Chris11. If I can't do it naturally in the next week or so, I will see my doctor about medication. I'll do some research on Zopiclone.
 
EscapeArtist

EscapeArtist

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benzos are the only thing that can keep my sleep on track :/ I would recommend adding in more exercise to your day, you can also try L-tryptophan or L-gabba, amino acids that are naturally relaxing. You could also try waking up a little earlier and not getting enough sleep on purpose (but enough to function), then make sure you don't have a completely lazy day (light exercise or mental stimulation at least) and most likely you'll be tired earlier than normal.

Here are some reviews for L-gaba for sleep. Gaba is a naturally occuring relaxing neurotransmitter.
http://www.iherb.com/product-reviews/Now-Foods-GABA-Powder-6-oz-170-g/585/?p=1&lang=en

and L-tryptophan, which raises serotonin and thus puts you to sleep. People use it for different reasons, but there are some reviews in there about using it to sleep
http://www.iherb.com/product-reviews/Now-Foods-L-Tryptophan-500-mg-120-Vcaps/13859/?p=1&lang=en

Lastly, you could just directly influence melatonin, by taking melatonin. More direct than tryptophan and probably the first resort i would go to if i were you and hadn't tried it.
http://www.iherb.com/product-reviews/Now-Foods-Melatonin-3-mg-180-Lozenges/710/?p=1&lang=en

I'm not advertising Now foods or Iherb, it's just that both of those two things seem to have LOTS of real reviews about the amino acids. So excuse me if it seems like advertising, just advertising the people's opinions not the actual brand

I have the same thing. Smetimes I had to resort to pulling all nighters so i'd sleep early the next day, but the next day would come, i would feel like all-hell, and I'd STILL stay up until 12 because I was scared for some reason. Then I'd sleep like 14 hours to make up for the all nighter before and be up at the same late time I normally would be! So it ended up being the same routine again, up until 4-5am which really doesn't help with depression, not ever seein the sun. Goodluck
 
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