Hate Capitalism!
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Porto
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I'm sure I could live in that community, cause my incomes are almost zero.
The idea seems quit interesting, special when it comes how to people interact with eachother when something as money as no value at all. Values, love, respect, help gets a different meaning.
Maybe that experience can easy prove the way to reset the actual missunderstanding of what is important and what is not.
I'll be very appreciated if u have some more information about that communities.
nafadda
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I happen to like the diversity on this post.It shows we all do not think alike.Nothing wrong with that,some people will lean more to the left and some more to the right,and some in the middle...For yrs I was more to the left and a few yrs ago I went a LOT more to the right.
but as I tend to say,nothing wrong with a good debate and people stating their positions and as to why they feel a certain way,Actually it shows that if most of us were sitting around a table we could actually discuss various subjects even if we had different points of views..nothing at all wrong with that is there?
but as I tend to say,nothing wrong with a good debate and people stating their positions and as to why they feel a certain way,Actually it shows that if most of us were sitting around a table we could actually discuss various subjects even if we had different points of views..nothing at all wrong with that is there?
1BlackSheep
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^^^ Well put! It's good to look at things from different view points as it often brings to light things you may not have considered, as long as it's done in a respectful manner.
Thelema
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Who are these people? Where are these communities? Are they 3 people? Have they lasted any amount of time? Did they bring their clothes and cars with them? doesn't that undermine the idea because they used capitalism to buy the car, their clothes, etc?
Did they run into the woods naked to do the experiment in a pure sense?
I'm very skeptical that such a system could survive for any length of time and with any sizeable amount of people without currency (money) coming up.
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Lea
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Another one for Porto: Diana Leafe Christian, Author of Creating a Life Together and Finding Community
MikeyC
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How do you treat a woman to something that'll already be free?
BlueDays
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Well you could just bring a bag full of fresh produce from your vegetable garden to give her! :
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1BlackSheep
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Yea, bring her your biggest cucumber!Well you could just bring a bag full of fresh produce from your vegetable garden to give her! :
BlueDays
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nafadda
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If NO one has money who buys the land and how does one go about paying taxes because I do know if I show up at my local tax office with a sack of veggies I grew and whatever else I could find they would tell me to get out and come back when I can pay the taxes with money..at least thats how it works here in the USA
I opt for making enough money and buying your own land and figuring out some things will need to be paid for in this day and age.
I opt for making enough money and buying your own land and figuring out some things will need to be paid for in this day and age.
Thelema
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The Venus Project
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BBC - Tribe - Anuta
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I live without cash ? and I manage just fine | Mark Boyle | Environment | guardian.co.uk
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The Resource Based Economy
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The Moneyless Society | Facebook
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That island is very interesting. It seems to me they're forced to have that lack of economy and society by their unique position. You could infer that only rich tribes with actual resources can afford to compete with eachother in terms of land and goods. Those people can't afford to have a conflict.
I'd say they aren't a resource based economy because they don't seem to have any resources. They have just enough food to eat, and just barely enough wood to make boats with and nothing else. Without outside help, they wouldn't survive (at least not very well.)
Reading about them, it seems the church and outside influences support the people.
"The resident population on Anuta is just under two hundred and fifty. Although Anuta is very isolated there is a steady flow of people and objects to and from the island. On Anuta young men in particular tend to come and go by cargo ships or visiting vessels. It is not uncommon for people who visit the island to become adopted into a family and end up staying."
"is common for men to leave Anuta in the pursuit of wage labour overseas. This time away, often throughout the Solomon Islands, can range from a few months to years. Wage workers occasionally send money or goods to relatives back on Anuta, and those returning to live on the island often bring back a supply of manufactured goods. "
So with help from the Church, selling the occasional shark fin and family sending money home, they scrape by. That's not sustainable for any big population. The island is a welfare state!
Even when you look at their canoes, the sails are made of tarp (where's the island resource of that), modern rope and paint. They fish with modern line and hooks. Take all these outside influences out and that society would be very dire.
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TheFurryConfused
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Yea, what did capitalism ever do for us!1 :v
nafadda
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it sure beats the HELL out of SOCIALISM.
capitalism has created MANY jobs over the past decades.capitalism has helped MANY people achieve their dreams.and for you people on cell phones,Ipads ,Iphones etc etc..UMMM I don't know..why not ask the people that created them about CAPITALISM..yea and I am sure many people here have that old facebook thing..once AGAIN,that was because of CAPITALISM....
so unless you believe in the 'spread the wealth'.'don't work for anything because you are just entitled to it" BS,then perhaps moving outside of the USA (for those that live here) may work better for you...yea ,let some one else do the work and sit back and just feel entitled to enjoy what others have worked for..
capitalism has created MANY jobs over the past decades.capitalism has helped MANY people achieve their dreams.and for you people on cell phones,Ipads ,Iphones etc etc..UMMM I don't know..why not ask the people that created them about CAPITALISM..yea and I am sure many people here have that old facebook thing..once AGAIN,that was because of CAPITALISM....
so unless you believe in the 'spread the wealth'.'don't work for anything because you are just entitled to it" BS,then perhaps moving outside of the USA (for those that live here) may work better for you...yea ,let some one else do the work and sit back and just feel entitled to enjoy what others have worked for..
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nafadda
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Capitalism is not about disability benifits.people that create buisness and work ,as in jobs for people and at the same time make money are not people trying to end disability benifits.
but re: that subject..I have seen so many people that said they couldn't work yet they worked 'under the table',so those people are actually stealing.yet you don't hear many people saying anything about them.
I have met people whos parents came from other countries that created buisnesses from the ground up ,all while being poor and working 7 days a week and never taking a vacation for many many years,and because of hard work they became VERY rich,,also many that were born here did the same exact thing.why should they have to spread their wealth??that is socialism.why ,if they pay their taxes,hire people so that their employees are able to earn paychecks are these hard working people considered bad,,after all if they created a buisness and made money doing so,what is so wrong with that??NOTHING..it's been the American way for many years .
but re: that subject..I have seen so many people that said they couldn't work yet they worked 'under the table',so those people are actually stealing.yet you don't hear many people saying anything about them.
I have met people whos parents came from other countries that created buisnesses from the ground up ,all while being poor and working 7 days a week and never taking a vacation for many many years,and because of hard work they became VERY rich,,also many that were born here did the same exact thing.why should they have to spread their wealth??that is socialism.why ,if they pay their taxes,hire people so that their employees are able to earn paychecks are these hard working people considered bad,,after all if they created a buisness and made money doing so,what is so wrong with that??NOTHING..it's been the American way for many years .
