drinkers and non drinkers.

Skald

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I am drinking right now. I dont think its good for my health (mental or physical) but I also dont really care either.

Amen. I know this path. it's like drinking pulls back that dark blanket covering you. then when you sober up, there is another one on top of that one. A very vicious circle.
 

Queen_Of_Pain

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You dont need alcohol though to have a good time. Alcohol is an illusion. Since at gatherings/parties theres drinking, people associate this with having a good time. But if it were some other activity you could have a good time too. So you could associate that with having a good time as well. If peopel didnt respect that I dont wanna get drunk or high, then they dont need to be my friend.

I agree.
I hate getting funny looks if I'm at a 'social gathering' *shudder* when I'm purposely trying not to get wasted like everyone else. Whats the point? The only time I really drink is to calm down my panic attacks, and since my doctor suggested I should try to enjoy life, I don't bother trying to drink to hide it, I want to see what the hell it has to offer for me.

Ah life is wonderful. :eek: :D

I havn't got anything against drinking in moderation though, I just find that it's more sucsessful if other people do it. lol
 

Remus

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I occasionally enjoy a really nice glass of wine with a good meal
has to be decent though, I wont drink any old muck :)
 

doesit

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You dont need alcohol though to have a good time. Alcohol is an illusion. Since at gatherings/parties theres drinking, people associate this with having a good time. But if it were some other activity you could have a good time too. So you could associate that with having a good time as well. If peopel didnt respect that I dont wanna get drunk or high, then they dont need to be my friend.
some people here misunderstood the idea,its not to drink alone or just start drinking to battle depression,its the idea that you go out and meet people,and can socialise in a relaxed environment.And parties or gatherings without alcohol = no fun at all
 

SnowWolf

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I know it would help me socially but I also know I have the type of personality that would become reliant on it and addicted. So I have never even been drunk before. Nevermind the fact that my meds warn me not to.
 
And parties or gatherings without alcohol = no fun at all

I disagree... and I think that most of the people who have responded in this thread are debating about this exact idea. You can have fun, socialize and meet people without alcohol if you choose to do so. Everyone has different ideas about what is fun, and get enjoyment from different things. Just because the majority of people in society (or so it seems) use alcohol doesn't mean that those who don't should be looked down on, bullied, or made to feel uncomfortable because that's simply not their thing.
 

doesit

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google it you should be able to find it.yeah thats true what youre saying about people that can have fun without alcohol,but in todays society it is considered normal that people chill out by drinking.Its bad only if you dont know how to behave when drinking or cant control yourself,and theres no force because everyone chooses who with or where they want to spend theyr free time.
 

ajo86

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What a load of rubbish, alcohol should be banned, it causes too much trouble between people, and ruines peoples lives. Why do drinkers have a big problem with people who don't drink. Its pathetic. They think that there is something wrong with you if you don't drink. I'm fed up of people asking me loads of questions about why don't I drink. Can't they just accept that not everyone is a sheep.
 

recluse

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If i'm being honest with you guys, i like the taste of beer and cider but i only get drunk in social gatherings because that's the onyl way i can cope with it. If i had confidence i wouldn't get drunk.
 

klytus

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I'm fed up of people asking me loads of questions about why don't I drink. Can't they just accept that not everyone is a sheep.
Heh, it gets really hilarious when some people think they can predict that I will get drunk really bad at some point in my life, since, according to them "no one can live a happy life without alcohol".
 

Cal

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I disagree... and I think that most of the people who have responded in this thread are debating about this exact idea. You can have fun, socialize and meet people without alcohol if you choose to do so. Everyone has different ideas about what is fun, and get enjoyment from different things. Just because the majority of people in society (or so it seems) use alcohol doesn't mean that those who don't should be looked down on, bullied, or made to feel uncomfortable because that's simply not their thing.

Judging people for being different is just plain wrong, and I think that's what this is REALLY about for most people here. But I think drinkers are being judged as well, for some seem to think it's bad behaviour (or fake?) to do things under the influence, that you normally wouldn't do while sober. That's just the impression I got anyway.

What a load of rubbish, alcohol should be banned, it causes too much trouble between people, and ruines peoples lives. Why do drinkers have a big problem with people who don't drink. Its pathetic. They think that there is something wrong with you if you don't drink. I'm fed up of people asking me loads of questions about why don't I drink. Can't they just accept that not everyone is a sheep.

Wrong, alcohol isn't the cause of problems, PEOPLE are. We make the choice to drink and get that 'release', and if we can't be responsible about it in the process, then that's no one's fault but ours. Furthermore, if alcohol is banned, people will find other ways to get the release they crave. ... Perhaps you should explain to the drinkers the way their questions make you feel, and why you don't drink? They'll never learn otherwise. :)

In any case, I think this is being taken way out of context. Don't get me wrong, I don't support heavy drinking (even though I do it on occasions), especially using it to escape from reality or help vent anger, because that's how addiction starts. I JUST ENJOY A DRINK. I do it for me, and me only. I like the taste, I like the feeling, and I like the fun that comes with it. As long as I'm not hurting anyone, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
 
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Aner

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there's nothing wrong with it as long as you have control over your drinking habits, and not the opposite.
 

Sinar_Matahari

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I go out with some friends and drink every now and then. I used to go out every weekend but I had to cut back for the sake of saving some money. I think it's mostly the going out that helps me. Sure, the alchohol helps as well. If I want to sit around and have a soda or a glass of water, I'll stay at home.
 

this_portrait

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A few months ago, a 'friend' tried to set me up with one of her friends/co-workers. He's a moderate drinker, and when I mentioned that I don't drink, and never will, he seemed to frown upon it, acting as if that piss is just a damn grand luxury. I think he even tried to convince me that there's nothing wrong with it and that I should try it, too. Now that I look back on it, not only does his opinion of not drinking piss me off, but I also find it rather insulting, especially since he (a person who can LEGALLY drink) was trying to convince a 19-year-old into going against her own values and beliefs (not to mention breaking the law) just because he thinks drinking can be 'fun.' God, my 'friend' has such bad taste in men. . .

Basically, what perturbs me is that drinkers (even the moderate ones) will complain about non-drinkers, claiming that they're narrow-minded and missing out, but then after this experience, I know that the opposite is true as well. Don't drink? Then your lifestyle is frowned upon.

I know not everyone (drinker and non-drinker alike) is like this, but I just find it sad and ridiculous that even some moderate drinkers can be so judgmental. You'd think that they would be the open-minded ones, but then I guess there's disappointment in every group. =/
 

mrb

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um well im a fri night drunk lol but most of the time im a good boy , but drink can drag you down or bring you up , depends on the mood your in , but its not a good idea to rely on the stuff to calm your nerves , cos long term it will do the reverse
 

klytus

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Kch.

there's nothing wrong with it as long as you have control over your drinking habits, and not the opposite.
You can abstract this to every other drug, too, for alcohol is just another incarnation of a psychoactive drug which happened to enjoy legalization. The point is, it's always wrong to take something in order to be able to do something else, unless there is no other way. The necessity of taking it is the aspect which makes abandoning yourself to alcohol wrong. Especially if the activity you want to be capable of is natural. There are other ways. If you want to alleviate some form of social inhibition, look for its cause, or question the actual desire.

During the two years I spent at my last high school, I had been asked countless times why I don't drink, and why I don't come to some party - they'd "teach me how to drink". I was a 'freak', a 'weirdo', 'mentally sick' and whatnot just because I chose the path of abstinence. Well, that experience just made me feel confirmed in my lifestyle.
 

Moonie

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Drinking has given me many good and many bad memories in the last 5 years. I am the all-or-nothing type, so I tend to go overboard when it comes to alcohol. It has been an aid to help decrease some anxiety (shame to admit it, though) in various occasions. But, again, it's a gamble. I have gone overboard and totally made a fool out of myself on a number of occasions. Drinking is definitely a gamble for me.

I sometimes tend to wonder what my drinking behaviour would be if it weren't for SA. Would I even drink at all? Maybe, maybe an occasional froofy drink with a good dinner. As a previous poster has mentioned, I'd rather have confidence over alcohol. That's probably the number one reason I drink so much. If my confidence was raised about 90% higher than what it is now, I would never touch a drink again.
 

doesit

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This thread is beating a dead horse.

Seriously, we can babble all day about alcohol. What really was my reason for posting was to post against what was claimed about NON drinkers, because that was a load of lies. Deny it all you want though. Take a step back and question why you drink in the first place, and you will find there is no purpose. You are either drinking for social acceptance or because you have an addiction. If you are drinking for neither, then again, question why you are drinking in the 1st place.


And dont say you do it to relax or to remove pain, cause it has no medicinal properties. If it did doctors would prescibe it for anxiety. Drinking GIVES you anxiety and depression.
drinking to have a good time and relax a bit because it makes you somewhat different and it applies for people who dont have sa or depression aswell.
 
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