1BlackSheep
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Oh, the horror of it all! That *is* quite a curse!
Glad you found someone you like (and likes you!) to share your troubles with!
Arohanui - Ake Ake KiaKaha's Journal
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Glad you found someone you like (and likes you!) to share your troubles with!
MikeyC
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Kia, that's great. Continue going to her. She sounds wonderful.
I don't know if she's flirting with you, but I would definitely not entertain that. She's your therapist and getting sexual innuendo in there will jeopardize that. She's listening to you and you enjoy talking to her, so take that for what it is.
I don't know if she's flirting with you, but I would definitely not entertain that. She's your therapist and getting sexual innuendo in there will jeopardize that. She's listening to you and you enjoy talking to her, so take that for what it is.
Lea
Banned
It must be fought. Otherwise things will never change. They say that life is intrinsically unfair - and it is, but the only reason it is because of the lack of will to make things fair - it cant be that hard - its just that people don't want to. It's too difficult. Things are getting better - but its taking a very long time - because there is just so many hurdles and its difficult to change attitudes.
The well off will never truly empathize with those who have nothing.
I wanted to ask this recently but forgot, what do you think is the right way to change political situation - I mean what an ordinary person can do about it. Going to demonstrations? Also I think it needs correct and deep understanding of the situation, and follow daily what is going on.. which most people can´t do because they don´t have time, or just don´t care about it that much. Which I think is understandable, people have their own lives to live. If they wanted to really understand politics, they would have to devote whole lives to it.. and I don´t know if it´s worth it because politics is s**t, it´s like an enormous and powerful octopus hard to fight with, even if you manage to cut one of his hands, it manages to grow it back.
And even if they did, there are millions of other people in the country who are not the same, don´t have that much understanding and knowledge, not to mention their ideas can be very primitive and stupid. It is bad enough only in a group of 30 people to agree on what is going to be done, because everyone thinks and wants something else. I know this from making decisions in the class at school. That´s why it seems to me somehow hopeless, although I may be wrong.
KiaKaha
Banned
Well you know I have been debating this in my head... is it wrong to entertain this? I am not sure... part of me thinks, if two people like each other, then why not give it a go? Despite any professional implications that may get in the way. But the other part of me thinks...well, I am placing a certain degree of trust into pretty much a stranger and there is the issue of professionalism - she cant help me if she is involved... I dont know man... its a tough call... I probably shouldnt... but I think I am going to anyway. That is if I pick up such strong signals again next week... maybe ask her out. Oh I dont know... I bring my anguish onto myself.... I really am an idiot.
KiaKaha
Banned
I just wrote out a HUGE response to this and accidentally closed my browser tab without submitting... very annoying... I seriously cant believe it - there is no way I am going to be able to top it. Oh well I will have to do this tomorrow - I have a lot to say to answer.
But thank you for the question Lea - its one I can really get my teeth into
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KiaKaha
Banned
Oh, the horror of it all! That *is* quite a curse!
Glad you found someone you like (and likes you!) to share your troubles with!
Yes black sheep - now I know what George Cloony feels like..
Poor bastard...
Lea
Banned
I just wrote out a HUGE response to this and accidentally closed my browser tab without submitting... very annoying... I seriously cant believe it - there is no way I am going to be able to top it. Oh well I will have to do this tomorrow - I have a lot to say to answer.
But thank you for the question Lea - its one I can really get my teeth into
Oh crap, sorry that this happened. I know how it is from my own experience :
:. Glad you´re going to write it again!
KiaKaha
Banned
I have just realized that my Journal has had over 8000 views. Thats kind of cool. - who would of thought I would be so damned interesting eh?
Anyway - enough self congratulating. I though I would respond to your post Lea - which by the way thanks for asking.
See I am not really all that much into politics myself - I just follow it sometimes because the actions of politicians effect people, and its because of that reason it sometimes grabs my attention. Politics is complicated - and you do need to devote a lot of time to understanding all the underlying nuances of whats going on. I admittedly dont understand ALL of it - but I do know when it affects people and society, particularly in areas that I care about.
I have never really been a big fan of big business or corporations....or even the successful and popular (not that I resent them, I just figure they have enough support and admiration already, so I dont fuss over them - other people can) - I am more interested in the working class or the poor - as they are more overlooked and ignored (BECAUSE of their lack of success)
I have an egalitarian nature and think that all people deserve a chance and should be treated equally and fairly.... but I also believe that because of the intrinsic unfairness of life and the greedy nature of those who have more than most - then those who are less well off need to be supported and given just a little bit more opportunity.
This is because the more privileged you already are, the more opportunity you are given. I think poverty and "class" systems are designed to pen people into a certain place in society. I often feel that people think that everyone gets an equal opportunity at life - I don't see it that way at all. All I see is an increasingly pressurized and superficial society of the "haves" and the "have nots" - I am a very strong believer that the rich and powerful should help the poor and the weak - but they dont... at least not really, not without some kind of agenda. Some people cant help themselves - not because they dont try, but because there are forces in place that dictate how far they can go - whether it be external from themselves, or within.
In answer to your question - demonstrations will only take you so far, what needs to change - is our attitude. We need to become more empathetic to the needs of others. To stop rationalizing our indifference - to stop massive sweeping generalizations of those who have nothing. Only then will true change come about - but seeing as people are so afraid of change and trying new things, we might not ever get there.
I remember the global protests in 2003 before the US invaded Iraq - the politicians and the powers that be went ahead and did it anyway - destroying the lives of hundreds of thousands innocent Iraqi's.
The problem is - is that we are all different. I like being the way that I am. I think my attitude is a powerful motivating force - more so than complacency and being at "peace" with everything. Not everyone will agree of course. I may not be the most happy, or positive person out there - and that may make people not want to be around me, which is fine, because quite frankly I have an ambivalent attitude toward people sometimes - I get fed up with them. But deep down, aside from all my flaws, I feel that I am a person of integrity and sincerity - and despite detractors or naysayers, that is my strength.
KiaKaha
Banned
I mean - this is where the current govt policies is taking the everyday NZ'er.
I cant understand why the citizens of this country continually elect a government that is so counter intuitive to the needs of its people. We are only a small island, we dont have the resources to be as rich as other counties.
The second image is particularly illustrative of the national party protecting the rich and trampling on the poor...yet again.
I cant understand why the citizens of this country continually elect a government that is so counter intuitive to the needs of its people. We are only a small island, we dont have the resources to be as rich as other counties.
The second image is particularly illustrative of the national party protecting the rich and trampling on the poor...yet again.
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MikeyC
Well-known member
Kia, I agree with what you're saying, but these are things I try not to think about because they always get me upset. Always. I don't see any benefit, at least for me, to read about how I'm getting screwed over in waves and from all angles.
I can't help but notice these stories, though, like what you posted about Sally just then. A K-Mart around here is closing down on the 17th, and that's going to leave 130+ jobs in the lurch. The parent company closing it down doesn't give a crap about the workers, including some who have been there for a long time. You're just a number, an anonymous employee. It's stories like this that I don't like reading because it gets me a little hot under the collar, as I'm sure it would be for you, too.
I can't help but notice these stories, though, like what you posted about Sally just then. A K-Mart around here is closing down on the 17th, and that's going to leave 130+ jobs in the lurch. The parent company closing it down doesn't give a crap about the workers, including some who have been there for a long time. You're just a number, an anonymous employee. It's stories like this that I don't like reading because it gets me a little hot under the collar, as I'm sure it would be for you, too.
KiaKaha
Banned
I know what you are saying. Over here the govt are firing hundreds of teachers across the country to save a few pennies, all the while increasing class room size (which by the way is NOT a good idea) - at least with this finally people are starting to take notice. As soon as it effects kids - its always becomes an emotionally charged topic... so that is a good thing.
But anyway, yes I know what you mean Mikey. The people in power never care about the people whose lives they ultimately effect. A peculiar phenomena is that people only care when it happens to them - until then why WOULD they care? I know it gets people annoyed - but I see that as a good thing... I see it as a motivating power, despite the discomfort it causes... but thats just how I see it. I do know what you mean.
I always think of the french revolution when it comes to stuff like this - the common people get pushed and pushed and pushed until they cant take it anymore. The elite few have so much, while the rest have very little.
MikeyC
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It's not good to hear about the government doing such things. Increasing classroom sizes isn't the answer, either. I work at a school in the afternoon and the teachers have complained in the past about high sizes. Anything over 25 is really hard to deal with.
I get what you're saying where nobody really cares about something unless it's affecting them in some way, but everyone in the world is guilty of that.
KiaKaha
Banned
Yeah I know - thats why empathy only stems from suffering.... mostly.
There are lots of things I dont care about because I dont think about them.
Anyway - I am sure I have rambled on long enough.
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Lea
Banned
Thanks for your answer Kia.. it actually comes down to what I think as well.. demonstrations alone can´t change much... what needs to be changed is attitude of each single person.
Which is THE PROBLEM. Because everyone is dishonest, nearly everyone, even if it´s just a small things. As an example I can think of my hospital stays - the staff tried to cheat us on food as much as they could. I always got announced by doctors what I should have next day - meat, nutridrinks etc.. but never got meat or nutridrinks, only some salty broth for the whole week at most with bread etc.. Btw the food in the hospitals is worse than in some homeless shelters, they cook from old or spoiled ingredients, as a spread they give you only a miniature chunk of margarine, no fruit, vegetables.. if there is a desert, they try not go give it to you if they can - pretend to have forgotten or make up some other excuse. Not to mention until recently in hospitals in my country - which is no 3 world country btw - there was no toilett paper or soaps, everyone was required to bring their own. The hospitals said that they got no money for it. When there is a cleaner in the hospital room, she works just TERRIBLE, only smears the dirt around and never reaches to corners. Probably she isn´t paid enough, for sure. But if it was me, I would do it properly even if it was for free - just out of principle.
This is so incredibly miserable situation. In my opinion we could easily live in wealth, even abundance. Only if... IF PEOPLE WEREN´T STUPID. It comes down to every single one of us, not only those at power, although them at most. It´s just the misery of a human soul...
Which is THE PROBLEM. Because everyone is dishonest, nearly everyone, even if it´s just a small things. As an example I can think of my hospital stays - the staff tried to cheat us on food as much as they could. I always got announced by doctors what I should have next day - meat, nutridrinks etc.. but never got meat or nutridrinks, only some salty broth for the whole week at most with bread etc.. Btw the food in the hospitals is worse than in some homeless shelters, they cook from old or spoiled ingredients, as a spread they give you only a miniature chunk of margarine, no fruit, vegetables.. if there is a desert, they try not go give it to you if they can - pretend to have forgotten or make up some other excuse. Not to mention until recently in hospitals in my country - which is no 3 world country btw - there was no toilett paper or soaps, everyone was required to bring their own. The hospitals said that they got no money for it. When there is a cleaner in the hospital room, she works just TERRIBLE, only smears the dirt around and never reaches to corners. Probably she isn´t paid enough, for sure. But if it was me, I would do it properly even if it was for free - just out of principle.
This is so incredibly miserable situation. In my opinion we could easily live in wealth, even abundance. Only if... IF PEOPLE WEREN´T STUPID. It comes down to every single one of us, not only those at power, although them at most. It´s just the misery of a human soul...
KiaKaha
Banned
About 3 years ago - my friend (at the time) was working full time in a small cafe. Her boss began to sexually harrass her. Touching her behind, flirting with her, making her feel uncomfortable amongst other types of behaviour.
She stood up for herself and told her boss that it was not acceptable and that she was only trying to work. He caused a fuss and he wasnt having it - so he threatened to fire her if he couldnt continue to do what he was doing. Apparently he was doing it to all the women there, except they were all afraid to stand together for fear of losing their jobs.
So she got fired - because it was making her feel miserable. She went to the police but there was no case, there was no evidence - its complicated to sort of explain what happened there - but lets just say it was a lot of "he said, she said" and nothing was able to come of it.
Her landlords were nice and let her live rent free for a couple few weeks.
I followed her boss home one night and in the middle of the night slashed all the tyres to his car and dented his side panels.
She doesnt know that I did that. I dont think she even knows that it happened - never bought it up at least.
You know I drew a big picture of a penis in my bosses diary once? That was kinda cool...
Boy was he mad.
She stood up for herself and told her boss that it was not acceptable and that she was only trying to work. He caused a fuss and he wasnt having it - so he threatened to fire her if he couldnt continue to do what he was doing. Apparently he was doing it to all the women there, except they were all afraid to stand together for fear of losing their jobs.
So she got fired - because it was making her feel miserable. She went to the police but there was no case, there was no evidence - its complicated to sort of explain what happened there - but lets just say it was a lot of "he said, she said" and nothing was able to come of it.
Her landlords were nice and let her live rent free for a couple few weeks.
I followed her boss home one night and in the middle of the night slashed all the tyres to his car and dented his side panels.
She doesnt know that I did that. I dont think she even knows that it happened - never bought it up at least.
You know I drew a big picture of a penis in my bosses diary once? That was kinda cool...
Boy was he mad.
hidwell
Well-known member
KiaKaha
Banned
Talk about taking affirmative action, way to go, High five.
Ah ... youthful idiocy whilst amusing... I wouldnt recommend it.
Why do dumb things seems so smart when you are doing them...
hidwell
Well-known member
KiaKaha
Banned
Yes I know. That's exactly why I did it.
I didnt want her to know in case I got in trouble - I have absolutely no qualms about telling you guys though.