Anyone else slowly pushing friends/family away?

shinghan

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I dunnno if anyone else does this but I seem to slowly avoid anyone I have been in contact with and that includes my best/close friends. I had a group of girls who I have been friends since high school. I used to talk to them a lot until my second year of university. We'd be doing stuff together every couple of weeks and we'd text pretty often. Then suddenly in second year, I seem to talk to them much less. I noticed that I tried to sit in some of their classes and hang out and stuff. The frequency of hanging out with them was much lower. Not exactly sure why though. I've only figured out that I had probably had SA during my first year. My second year, I just wanted to drop school and go back to my area since there was much more resources for SA. I haven't told them yet, even now. I can't seem to dissect why I avoid them now. During my third year starting new at UofT, I realized that I barely, barely talk to them. I think I got a couple of texts and msgs online asking if I wanted to get together, but I'd usually make some random excuse.

Does SA affect friendships that much?

I've also avoided a lot of my family even though we live in the same house. I share a room with my cousin. We used to hang around a lot as kids. I don't know what happened, but ever since I moved in with him (I used to live away from my dad and my aunt) our relationship seems to have gotten worse. I rarely play games with him. I get irritate by him really easily. Everytime he comes to ask me anything, I avoid his eyes and continue to stare at my computer screen or keep myself occupied. Each time he asks me anything, I 'feel' that they are ridiculous questions even though they are perfectly valid when I think about it afterwards. My response is always some irritated and annoyed tone and it happens automatically. We both just seem to stick to our own little bubbles in the room.

I avoid a lot of my family most of the time. I can't speak my native language fluently enough to keep up a conversation, so I either answer with one word responses or avoid them entirely. My relationship with my dad is just terrible. He has a short fuse and shows his anger. I easily get frustrated and depressed when either of us try to communicate to each other because it never ends positively. I think I've stayed in my room for the majority of my high school/university life. I just recently told my dad and aunt about my SA, needing a doctor to help interpret.

My best/close friends who I've met since we were kids. We started losing contact with each other or maybe its me doing it. I talked a lot with them online through skype. I don't remember who introduced me to skype calls. I remember it being such a great benefit because my best friends always played online games with their friends and introduced me to them. Later on I would meet some of them as a get together downtown. I don't know what happened, but I literally just stopped joining in on the calls entirely. Just one or two days of not talking with them and now I've been avoiding them to the point of not us not playing the same games anymore. I don't even chat on skype even though they're always there talking with each other. I haven't asked my best friends if they thought this was odd, but I think they know since they've pvt msging me on skype. I seldom text with them if anything new happens.

Don't know if other people get these situations, but it's feels weird in my perspective.

Is it SA or depression?
 
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jaim38

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Have you heard of avpd (avoidant personality disorder)? I'm not a therapist but it sounds like you have some of the traits. Google it.

Like you, I'm also pushing my friends and relatives away. I used to be close to a male cousin in my family but as an adult, I don't want to get too close because it would be inappropriate. Same thing with my dad. I used to give hugs and kisses to both guys and girls, young or old, but now, I am more discreet. You never know, these days when you get too touchy feely, people can call you a pedophile or think you're flirting with them.

I don't hang out or talk with my friends as much anymore because I think they're probably better off without me. I see them on facebook laughing and having a good time with their friends, and I don't want to ruin their mood with my SA, depression, and other problems. Plus, I don't want to get too close because I don't want to come off as a leech or gold digger (some of my friends have jobs and are successful). So yeah, I leave them alone, now.
 

dottie

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I don't want to ruin their mood with my SA, depression, and other problems.

this. when messages come in anxiety ensues, i clam up, and procrastinate responding until i'm collected. often they message me when i'm in a bad way (depressed/stressed from work) and i don't want my energy to come off on them. by the time i respond (sometimes a week later) they are over it. people lose patience and i don't blame them.
 

Dark angel

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I've been doing that too lately. I get angry when people come visit me here without giving a prior notice or like yesterday, for some reason I lashed out at my mother and I didnt even know why because we have such a good relationship(We had a discussion earlier but even after we sorted out our differences I kept being absolutely angry at her, that never happens, she is like a sister to me). A girl that I met last semester in college moved to NY but in September she came to visit. She wanted to see me because while we took classes together we really bonded quite well. She even wondered why we didnt met earlier in our college years because we could've bonded as friends even further. Anyway, she came in September and she called me several times. I return her call once but while I was making that call I was praying that she didnt answer. She didnt. But then she call me back like three times more and I didnt return the calls. She went back to NY and yesterday she message me on Facebook saying that I didnt love her because she kept calling and I never responded back. I did it on purpose. I did not want to give any explanations to her that my life currently sucks, that Im unemployed and doing nothing while she is already a dentist at 24.

Even more, sometimes my best friend comes home and I avoid answering the door. It is weird, because I don't like to do it but in some way I have to do it. My older brothers constantly ask me, how am I doing and when are we gonna meet up 'cause is being more than a year since I saw them, but for some reason I do not want to go through that. It makes me sad. Because I have 3 beautiful nieces that I barely see in photos. My younger brother who still lives here with my mom and I, visits them constantly and play with the girls. I've never, never done that. Last weekend he offered to take the girls to the movies. Why can't I be like this? Being around other people sometimes drains the hell out of me. I could keep on going of the things that I usually do. I suspect that I have Avpd but I've never wanted to ask my therapist about it.
 

EscapeArtist

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Yes, definitely.

Same experience. The language barrier must not help you much.

You're able to look back on these good moments with your friends, your family, your cousin. But you still have them around and with time on their hands, within distance to see them.

I remember when I first started pushing people away, when I was around 14, my sister would step into my "cave" of a room, stand at the door next to my computer and ask me to go play baseball with her. I would deny the opportunity to hang out with her every time, from my computer chair, where I would rather play games alone...

Now it's one of my biggest regrets. You see before I began distancing, she was my idol, my parental figure, my gaurdian angel and my inspiration. I was the only person in the world she would "ever trust with her life", the only person she would willingly cry in front of and let see her be "weak", let hug her.... She had a wall for everybody else, but me.

It's 6 years later, and 6 years of growing apart. Now she has moved out. I had no second thought that I should repair the connection that I pushed away before she left. I only see her every 4 months for an hour or two, and she puts on her glazed over eyes as if she doesn't know me and never has. She is too hurt that I disconnected from her, shut her out of my life, didn't put effort into our friendship. She works so much that she "never has time to see me", or doesn't want to. I feel as if I lost her, all because I didn't appreciate our connection. Just remembering her standing at my bedroom door with a baseball mitt, begging me to please get off the computer and hang out with her...

Those were special moments I just wasted. In those moments, I pushed away best friends as well, and have regrets for that too, but nothing compares to the regret I have for abandoning the company of my sister, and now i'm crying.he point is that you don't want to lose these relationships. I understand the urge to push everybody away, and maybe the urge comes from somewhere different in everybody. Do you understand the feeling you get when you do it may be more of a high than anything? It probably comes from something very deep seated. For me it's a fear of intimacy, abandonment and a distrust that makes me want to abandon them first. Do you feel as if you can relate at all?

You are realizing that you are losing people by doing this... but don't wait until you lose the people that truly love you, and have to live with those regrets. The regret is hard to live with when you lose those that you love, and anybody can be lost at any time, either emotionally or physically. We have to fight this urge and keep fighting, get close despite wanting to be short-handed and pass people off to get them away, otherwise we will regret it one day.
 
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jaim38

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It's 6 years later, and 6 years of growing apart. Now she has moved out. I had no second thought that I should repair the connection that I pushed away before she left. I only see her every 4 months for an hour or two, and she puts on her glazed over eyes as if she doesn't know me and never has. She is too hurt that I disconnected from her, shut her out of my life, didn't put effort into our friendship. She works so much that she "never has time to see me", or doesn't want to. I feel as if I lost her, all because I didn't appreciate our connection. Just remembering her standing at my bedroom door with a baseball mitt, begging me to please get off the computer and hang out with her...

You have touched my heart with this post. It's so sad. If I had a sister like that, maybe I wouldn't turn out to be what I am now.
 

hardy

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Used to do this a lot...things have changed after i started vippassana meditation...i have a more positive attitude towards life now as i understand life much better now. The unpleasant sensations are my teachers. I observe them and know their reality...which is impermanent....and i gain so much confidence out of this knowledge.

Not so difficult to overcome social phobia/anxiety....just need to know a few things. And believe me, this meditation has taught me everything i needed to know.

Try it and see it for yourselves...i learned it from a good teacher and have made good progress.

Get started by reading an article on this mind observation technique: The Art of Living: Vipassana Meditation
 

Gaucho

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i even avoid my father and my half brother, when all he wants is to see me and spend some time with me, but I'm a coward
 

Section_31

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Ive been doing the same for a long number of yrs >.<

Your story is very simliar to many of ours here i think.
 
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