A small rant/opinion of cutting ...

WriterChick3

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Okay, I hope I posted this in the right place. This is a thing on cutting and a huge rant of my personal life that I need to say. Read if you want.
I know everyone has different views of this subject weather or not someone can make you cut yourself or not; I believe people can provoke it.
Please don't be upset with me about this, I don't wanna start any arguments.
I cut myself when I was 12 because of my fathers overbearing, furious attitude.
I hadn't cut myself since (but mostly because of seeing a great therapist)
.... At the beginning of this year I cut myself. But to sum it all up, I've cut myself probably around ten times this year and nobody knows it.

It's hard to explain, but when people say "Nobody can make you cut." it upsets me a lot because my father makes me cut. If anything, he wants me to because .... Look, I can't even explain how he is. But do you want the truth? He is the kind of person who likes drama and excitement. And me cutting myself would be something for him to make me look bad and try to gain sympathy for himself.
He gives me so much anxiety and depression and self-loathing and hopelessness. He can manipulate feelings, and even my mom has said this. He has told us he wants us to pay for what we've done -- even though we have not done anything but act normal. He has depression, but his personality is simply awful and hard to deal with. He does not admit to what he's done -- he blames it on his issues of the past with family and his depression. Some may say "What's wrong with that?" I'll tell you what's wrong -- he uses it to get out of situations. You'd have to know him to see how he is. But trust me, it makes my blood boil knowing he is using his problems as an excuse. Depression isn't a shield, it is a very bad problem, and I've been told by my therapist I may even have a form of depression. And it also bothers me because I don't think people with depression are all that happy about it, yet he uses it for fun.

When I argue with my mom, I become sad and feel guilty ... but I don't cut.
When I argue with my brother I don't cut.
The thing is, I am not a constant cutter. I don't use it for every stressful situation or I'd be cutting myself ten times a day. I don't even do it all the times he bothers me -- I do it when my mind is swirling from what he's said/done.
Personally, in my opinion, when a person cuts (atleast for when I cut) they're not thinking 100% straight. They grab the closest thing to them, they're lost, so many emotions are clouding their sences and you wanna release the anxiety for a minute. And you cut with whatever object you have.
Personally I think people can be provoked to cut. I think sometimes people choose to cut because they don't know of other coping skills, but since I have such a freaking weird father who gossips and lies and actually craves (bad) attention and overbearing and loud and mean and immature/babyish and treats me like a four year old girl and blames everyone and even holds grudges and never lets go even if you say you're sorry and never apologizes and takes religion way too seriously enough to where he makes it all sound scary.
........... My point is: he makes me cut. Believe it or not. Please don't tell me I choose to cut. Nobody knows how he is. And even if you met him you'd never know because he can fake so much. You actually gotta live with him to know his odd thinking and behavior.

On the thing of suicide: Nobody can make you commit suicide. That is your own doing. You're taking your own life, nobody is coming at you with a weapon to do it.
Cutting is something that can often be provoked.
When people don't believe that he makes me cut it makes me feel so alone. I wish people would understand he is not normal, he makes me cut, he makes me want to give up, he has this weird thing of when he makes people cry he walks away as if he'd achieved something. He has so many odd things of his that are not considered depression or issues -- which I should not talk about. And please, do not think I am being rude. He has depression ...... but I want you to know .... he is using it as an excuse to say and do certain things. If my mom points out things to him .... he never takes responsibility for it. It's either God he brings in to it, or his family-issues, or his depression. But I don't even wanna say he has depression because he is using it for attention. And I mean it.
Like how he allowed himself to become diabetic, and instead of feeling bad or avoiding bad foods, he eats more and goes to people trying to gain sympathy. He even changes the story from he is diabetic to he is not diabetic (he likes messing with peoples minds.) But now that my family has realized he isn't as nice as they thought, they don't give him sympathy. Which is funny because when they don't pity him, he doesn't go visit them as often.

I really hope nobody gets upset at me for this or bans me. I just really needed to get this off my chest. And again, please don't tell me I choose to do it. I know a lot of you have stressful relatives ... and I have one, too. But he happens to know what buttons to push on pretty much everyone.

Please don't hate me.
 

DespairSoul

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Hello,

I was reading your story. I cant say how u feel because i never had father. I dont know how it is have father like u have. I even dont know what is huging and kind word of him coz i didnt had any. I think your father should act diffrent to you. By the way i think he suffer yet with something else as with deppresion with Histronic disorder or with some other where people simulate situation that they earn more attention and make them feel better. Importand is only how he feel not how u or others feel just him self! I dont like to hear it that u cut your self this dont solve your problems with father anyway. I think u need find something else as cuting your self-remember your father isnt worh it of cutting. Anytime if he make u angry try find something to do it. Go out, go to library,go with dog clear your mind outside. Visit some frend if u have any or aunt. Just try be more active and dont stay home if u have possibility go somewhere else. Dont punish your self if father act not nicely to you. Dont let him win. Try sugestion to your mind that anytime what u cut your nice young hand he is the winner! Try find something else what let go anger go out of your body. Scream in the nature,run around house do some crayzy stuff what let this anger set free. Please only dont cut your self. You dont deserve be punished coz of your father! What he do isnt fair to you, but what u do to your self isnt fair to yourself too! I dont Judge you hun i try only help..anytime if u need u can write me and we will figure something out ok=o)?
 

WriterChick3

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Hello,

I was reading your story. I cant say how u feel because i never had father. I dont know how it is have father like u have. I even dont know what is huging and kind word of him coz i didnt had any. I think your father should act diffrent to you. By the way i think he suffer yet with something else as with deppresion with Histronic disorder or with some other where people simulate situation that they earn more attention and make them feel better. Importand is only how he feel not how u or others feel just him self! I dont like to hear it that u cut your self this dont solve your problems with father anyway. I think u need find something else as cuting your self-remember your father isnt worh it of cutting. Anytime if he make u angry try find something to do it. Go out, go to library,go with dog clear your mind outside. Visit some frend if u have any or aunt. Just try be more active and dont stay home if u have possibility go somewhere else. Dont punish your self if father act not nicely to you. Dont let him win. Try sugestion to your mind that anytime what u cut your nice young hand he is the winner! Try find something else what let go anger go out of your body. Scream in the nature,run around house do some crayzy stuff what let this anger set free. Please only dont cut your self. You dont deserve be punished coz of your father! What he do isnt fair to you, but what u do to your self isnt fair to yourself too! I dont Judge you hun i try only help..anytime if u need u can write me and we will figure something out ok=o)?

Thanks for answering. :)
Sometimes it's like, he really lights the fuse and sets the bomb off. I'm a very patient person, I don't ever really get mad nor do I get angry with people, nor do I even hate anyone. So he is really the only human-being on this planet who makes me wanna explode or fade. He's the only person who has done this to me. I know I shouldn't cut, it doesn't help with much. It does release frustration but only for a minute until I feel in control again. I just feel so hopeless when he's around, he's like a hovering cloud of doom and everything he talks about is negative. It's all depressing and only brings out the anxiety/OCD in me (I have more compulsions when he is around) ... He's even the one who started my fear of adulthood and life for the things he's said. :( I fear I'll be like him. I fear this so much. Or that he won't ever leave me alone when I move away someday, like he'll find a way to keep contacting me and never let me live in peace.

I'll keep everything you said in mind. Thanks for trying to help. :)
PS; I enjoy photography, so I can go outside and do that instead of cutting. There's something about nature that allows me to melt in with the atmosphere ... peaceful and lovely.
 

mmmm

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This story really moved me. I used to cut when I was a teenager. Not fancy cutting like you see on TV. Those cool TV girls use razorblades and straight lines and things. If I couldn't find anything useful I would use my nails, which left ugly scars or I would swing doors into my head until I felt woozy. So, trust me, I GET it. With me it was also a family member who had a certain effect. Won't go into details about that. I Don't know how old you are but I'll let you know that when I hit my 20's I just lost the urge to cut myself. This person still bugs me but I no longer crave that instant release (I still overeat, though :)). I think the hormones have just become more settled so you never know, just ride it out and be patient.

I don't know what to tell you about dealing with your dad right now. Despair is right, he is not worth it. You know when you said you fear becoming like him? On the one hand, you will never be like him, so don't even worry. You are so aware of what he is doing wrong that you will easily avoid doing the same things so put the worry out of your mind. On the other hand, and you might get angry with me but it needs to be said, EVERY TIME you cut yourself when he has hurt you, you are saying "yes, you are right to hurt me, I follow your example." It is wrong for you to be hurt by anyone. I guess my situation was a little easier because the person who hurt me knew they were wrong and was fearful of people finding out. It took me years to figure that out because I was so often told that I was wrong, which made me feel ashamed of people finding out. Anyway, whenever I felt the blood boiling I would stay exactly where I was and scream as loudly as I could until this person was begging me to stop. And you know what? It actually felt better than cutting. Not that it solves any real problems but at least it won't scar you.

Please PM me if you need to talk about stuff. I really do get it.
 

mismeek

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I can't really put much input into this, since I dont cut. But I WILL say that NO one here will hate you for what you said. We are all here to support each other :)
 

3lefts

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Reading this hit a little too close to home.
I think the word you would be getting at is that your father has a sadistic sense of humour? A sort of insidious nature?
The thing is, he's never going to be the person you want/need him to be. He's going to be the person that he is now. If you want to be happy, you're going to have to move on, even if that means leaving him behind.
He only pushes your buttons well because your still attached, you still really care. Loving him, doesn't mean you have to do what he wants. Respect yourself and give yourself the freedom that you need from him.
Perhaps I am far off? I'm just speaking from personal experience, that's all I can do.
Take care of yourself, you deserve better.
 

DespairSoul

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Thanks for answering. :)
Sometimes it's like, he really lights the fuse and sets the bomb off. I'm a very patient person, I don't ever really get mad nor do I get angry with people, nor do I even hate anyone. So he is really the only human-being on this planet who makes me wanna explode or fade. He's the only person who has done this to me. I know I shouldn't cut, it doesn't help with much. It does release frustration but only for a minute until I feel in control again. I just feel so hopeless when he's around, he's like a hovering cloud of doom and everything he talks about is negative. It's all depressing and only brings out the anxiety/OCD in me (I have more compulsions when he is around) ... He's even the one who started my fear of adulthood and life for the things he's said. :( I fear I'll be like him. I fear this so much. Or that he won't ever leave me alone when I move away someday, like he'll find a way to keep contacting me and never let me live in peace.

I'll keep everything you said in mind. Thanks for trying to help. :)
PS; I enjoy photography, so I can go outside and do that instead of cutting. There's something about nature that allows me to melt in with the atmosphere ... peaceful and lovely.

Hello,

Well he is bad energy around u. The best for u if u will try spend with him the most less time what u can. Try focuse on the most positive things what u can if he is around. If he cloud around u will focus make opposite and smile. I know is hard if someone push your buttons well. Dont fear u will be like him. You are u and u dont like how he is. I dont think so u will be ever like him if he have so negative influence on you. What let u thinking that u will be like him?If u dislike the way how he is. Photography is wodnerfull before i was using this sometimes too. Nature can heal pain because is wonderfull miracle=o) this sound promissing a lot. U are brave girl. He will be always your dad. No matter what happend. He cant control u forever. If he will try, u just will stop him with saying enough of that dad im grow up and im on my own. Good luck!Take care!
 

dean01

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well done for posting your story, its a subject i found very emotional as i started cutting last year. i dont know what my trigger was, its just as you described it thou.
my mind was cloudy and i was lost.
i hope things get better for you.
 

agoraphobickatie

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for one thing, i think it's awesome that you wrote all that to get it off your chest, that is something really positive and therapeutic for you to do! i don't doubt at all what you say about your father, he sounds horrific and i believe you because there truly are people in this world who are just that messed up and toxic to everyone around them... although i've never cut, i understand what you mean when you say it is provoked... i wish, for your own safety/health/sanity that instead of cutting, you could be provoked to do something else.. provoked to rant and rave through words in a blog or diary or post like this. i just hate to know you're hurting yourself to get away from pain someone ELSE has caused, ya know? no one should have that kind of power over you. so maybe you could try to think of letting him provoke you to do something that would be more positive for yourself, and you'd feel better about him being such a dick.. because then when he angered you so much, instead of feeling bad because you cut, you could feel good like "ha, fukk you, i'm fine" and write about it or do something productive for yourself....

i don't know, i'm sorry for sounding preachy or whatever :) i truly understand where you are coming from, and no one on here would hate you for saying what you mean! i just wish better for you than to hurt yourself more than he already does =/
best wishes!
 

Shant

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He gives me so much anxiety and depression and self-loathing and hopelessness. He can manipulate feelings, and even my mom has said this. He has told us he wants us to pay for what we've done -- even though we have not done anything but act normal. He has depression, but his personality is simply awful and hard to deal with. He does not admit to what he's done -- he blames it on his issues of the past with family and his depression. Some may say "What's wrong with that?" I'll tell you what's wrong -- he uses it to get out of situations. You'd have to know him to see how he is. But trust me, it makes my blood boil knowing he is using his problems as an excuse. Depression isn't a shield, it is a very bad problem, and I've been told by my therapist I may even have a form of depression. And it also bothers me because I don't think people with depression are all that happy about it, yet he uses it for fun.
I completely get this. My father's not exactly the same - no depression, and he has told me almost ritually that he loves me, but besides that I know the feeling. He may or may not be at the same extent your father is, but just felt like saying I know how that kind of father is; They insist they're never at fault for anything, blaming his issues of the past, and often using it as a crutch. To insist that they've done anything wrong makes you the one in the wrong. And bringing God into everything to strengthen his self-righteousness is never fun to witness.

Basically just a lot of externalization with him. I had a small period where I succumbed to "cutting" once. I would not recommend it ever; there are times I want to but don't because I know just how low it can bring someone down. It was only after I took up that behavior that my depression magnified and I developed "anhedonia", which is basically a fate worse than death. It's when literally nothing ever brings joy.

Although that said, I do sympathize with others who do it, a lot of things that provoke "cutting" are incredibly hard to deal with. But I do not recommend it. It only makes things worse, after the few hours of things seeming better.

Hopefully things get better for you.
 

HeadFace

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I just finished reading, and I can identify with the ****ty father thing. When a child has a bad parent, it can often have the same value as having no parent at all.
But my dad doesnt make me cut. I hate him. I know he isnt worth my blood.
Unfortuanetly it does sound like your dad influences your self-mutilation. You've explained that he thrives on drama and attention. Dont give him that. Let him learn that you will no longer give him that. He might not learn that he needs to mature a bit more, but he will eventually figure out that he won't get any more drama from you. Try to remain more calm when confronting him (or when he confronts you). Avoid him more often.

Also... I have a more personal question. Do you love him?
 
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