Father Issues

Bittersweet

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This may not seem like a topic for an SA forum.

However, I've realized that my SA is in great part a result of self esteem issues, and those self-esteem issues are directly connected to issues with my father.

Do any of you also experience this connection?
 

EscapeArtist

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Yes, my dad made fun of me a lot and overall neglected me. He loved my older sister though. I think I had one conversation with him and it was like 1 sentence long. He left and started another family, it doesn't hurt me because I never knew him, but it hurts that he played such a nonexistent role in my life, and most definitely contributed to most of my self esteem issues. You are not alone, and I think a LOT of people have this problem. To have a decent father is rare
 

Shant

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I have so many father/"daddy" issues.

It's an abnormal case. He has good intentions, went into parenting with an ideal about how to not be as abusive as his father was (getting dramatic about it), etc... and yet, I could go on and on about how much he goes wrong.

Just looking at him pisses me off, incredibly. It takes all I have to not give in to either fight-or-flight. Being submissive to him, which removes all possibility of conflict, (him, tolerant of differences in life? hah!) is difficult, but a must-do. There's no love-hate thing going on with me, it's all just complete tension. I think if I had to give a diagnosis or explanation for his actions, the word of choice might be "narcissistic" or "megalomaniac", with the sense of always being right and other people being "sinners" (a la his judgmental side), and don't stand up to him or you're lucky if you're yelled at.

I'm working as much as I can to move out. Honestly, I could point to much worse parents, but ever since I was a child I've always preferred to be anywhere but this house, and it's a double-whammy when you're social phobic and don't have anywhere else to go except for this house. Thankfully I've got a second job coming in soon...

I do so many things to differentiate myself from him, wanting nothing to do with him.
 
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I have some daddy issues. I love him to death, but he has never been good at expressing his feelings. We are more similar than either cares to admit. Neither of us want attention placed on us and a lot of the time say hurtful things when we are scared. He's said so many things that he probably doesn't remember that were said as a defense mechanism for himself that hurt me greatly. I think a lot of my fear of rejection stems from my relationship with him. But these past couple of years he has been trying and I have to give him credit. We are a work in progress, but I love him.
 

Josette

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This may not seem like a topic for an SA forum.

However, I've realized that my SA is in great part a result of self esteem issues, and those self-esteem issues are directly connected to issues with my father.

Do any of you also experience this connection?

YES YES A WORLD OF YES. I see a direct causal relationship between his behavior and my SA. He has his own anxiety issues and couldn't handle chaos, couldn't handle not being in control. So he terrorized us all (mom & 3 daughters) into 'behaving'. I don't mean any kind of abuse really. Maybe emotional, I guess. It was more just intimidation and IDK, it's hard to explain.

I didn't know this at the time though. I figured it out in my mid-twenties. Something happened and I saw his behavior for the first time for what it was. It was a defining moment. Ironically, it made me hate him less, because I finally understood why he'd always been such an a**hole and lo and behold it was the same thing I was suffering from: anxiety.

(Still, I wish he'd gotten help before having kids and maybe I wouldn't be so screwed up.)
 

juan_sa

Member
my father drank a lot and i wasn't able to do the "normal" father son stuff. i wasn't close to him until i was a 16.. never truly got to know him because he committed suicide when i was 17.
 
I have to say yes on this one as well.
My dad was never in my life, and I had to be raised poor by just my mom.
He stepped in when I was 16 and I moved in with him, but it only last 1 school year.

I enjoyed actually having a dad for once, and I thought he taught me a lot. I was making friends, I was doing good in school. I still had major issues with actually working though, and having people judge my work, so he got mad I couldn't function and sent me back home.

We stayed in contact some, but after I changed my last name, he took it as I didn't love him anymore. I told him how much he meant to me, and how much he helped me, but I guess he still just doesn't get it.
Today I don't talk to him because we have too much of a difference in opinions. He's a rancher texas redneck religious guy, and it seems he doesn't like what I've grown up to be. He doesn't understand my problems and I guess never will.
So that's that. I don't have a dad anymore.
 

Kiwong

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No my father was alwys supportive. Unfortunately, my high school environment was toxic to my self-esteem, even though I had a safe home environment to fall back on.
 

anuskas

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I suffered a lot in my father´s hands. I would be happy by now if it hadn´t been him. (he is responsible for my SP and all my problems) I can´t forgive him but as I love my mother and she wants us to be in peace I pretend I forgot what he did to me and keep on going home for lunch once a week.
 

Danfalc

Banned
Yep, he was overly aggressive. Coming home drunk loosing his temper and smashing things. Had to watch how I spoke to him depending what mood he was in, as I would often find myself lifted off my feet by my throat or suddenly wondering why I was on the floor looking at the ceiling.

It was that or be ignored mostly, and the messed up thing is being ignored hurt me more. Then he divorced my Mum when she suffered a breakdown a kicked me out. what a stand up guy. No wonder I have issues.

So yeah Dad, here's wishing you a heart attack on Fathers day, hope you die slow you piece of crap.
 

Danfalc

Banned
now i don't care much... though his existence would bother me less if he was gone.

I think that's a healthier way to deal with it, and honestly I think it makes you the bigger person. So hard to let that hate go for me.
 

Lea

Banned
I think I wish my father death or bad things in the moment he is violent with me or enjoys to beat me down or humiliate, but when he is gone again or calm, I "forget" the hate. I think it still would make me sad if he died, sometimes he makes me sad even when he´s alive because of how hopeless and blind he has become. I tend to think he is not really bad in the core, only somehow blind or unhappy, that´s why he is acting destructively to his environment. And maybe he had inherited some tendencies to it too.
 
My dad constantly let me down throughout my childhood, he and my mum divorced when i was 3. I was meant to see him every other weekend, i hardly saw him at all. In the end, roughly the same time as i got SA, I gave up and stopped talking to him. I've seen him once in the last 4 years, and we hardly spoke. The closest person i had to a father figure emotionally and physically abused me from age 6 onwards. He's the only person in the world who I would not hesitate in torturing and horribly mutilating.

So yes, i have father issues
 

Feathers

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Oh gosh, Lea - there are organisations and ways to get help to get out of a situation like this!!
If there's violence, there are support telephone lines (maybe online too?) and safe houses and such!! Check what is available where you live!! And there are people there who can help you get a job and your own living arrangements (if you don't have these yet).

I know what it's like to 'forget' when he's in a good mood or 'everything is great', but my Dad was very moody too and sometimes very unpredictable. Or he was absent a lot, helping at the farm of relatives. Memory problems too. He could be joking around one minute, then 'bam!' the next. I never knew what to expect.
I really hated him as a kid. He hasn't hit me since I was a teen but he can be very insulting and drive us all crazy. Then he can be charming and hahaha again and never realize he did anything 'wrong'... Maybe it's an onset of Alzheimer's or such too.. People say it's only gonna get worse as he ages, probably..
I inherited some bad things, and some good things too (sense of humor :))

He worked in a chemical factory (and fell on his head as a small boy), so I relate some of it to this. He's a super-religious redneck type of guy too, though I very much respect him for some things too. So I guess it's complex...

Danfalc ((hugs)) So very sorry to hear about it... hope you manage to heal and put it behind.. EFT and TAT helped me a lot with that, to let go of old issues (but Dad has kept making new ones!! arrgh!! I need to get out of da house!! lol!!)

Pebbles - so sorry to hear about it too... I don't know what to say... Hope you will find a way to put it all behind and grow into a better person because of it... At least you know which mistakes not to make... So many people where I live still think 'physical punishment' is okay... though it's been recently 'outlawed' (but with no proper consequences) it seems a very slow shift in people's mentality... and many just don't seem to know better ways of reacting...

Oh - and for everyone else: sorry to hear about father issues, I sometimes think people would need a certificate for parenting!! (Not sure if it would help though?) And if you never had any of troubles: well, lucky you! :)
Anyway, hope things get better...
 
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Nanita

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My father was and still is an alcoholic. He is also extremely egocentric, unpredictable, attention-seeking.
Growing up with him, I experienced his many different sides and mood changes.
He was always dramatic; angry, shouting, irritated, drunk, crying, pathetic, quiet, arrogant, rejecting me, teasing me, humiliating me, forgetting to pick me up from school. And so on.
HE has effected me in so many ways. As a child I was doing pretty good, in school and in social life. But when I was about 20 years old, I began having problems and that was the time I began remembering more and more about what my father put me through.
 

Nanita

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You can add me to the list of people with crappy fathers. When I was 12 and hadn't seen my dad in three years my brother and I flew down to Texas to stay with our dad for the summer. We were so excited to see him. Once we arrived in Houston, we couldn't get off the plane fast enough....we expected him to be just as excited to see us. But, once we got off the plane we couldn't find him. He wasn't there. The airport people were freaking out. Not sure what to do with us. Finally, after a flight attendant called my mom, some uncle we did not know came and picked us up and took us to his house. He said our dad had worked overtime and was unable to pick us up but would be there soon. He kept looking out the window and saying, "here he ain't!"

Finally, dad shows up bragging about how he was gonna be on the national news that night. Why, you ask? Because he took part in a KKK rally in Houston .:rolleyes: I said to him, "I thought you were working overtime." And he responded with, "Mind your own business!"

Wow that´s horrible.
 

Kamen

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I understand and can relate. My father is not a bad person, he is not aggressive. But he is simply distant. He doesn't care about my interests, does not ask me how I feel or how I am doing, including when I have health issues, rarely talks with me and gives me his attention mostly to remark what he perceives as my bad traits, such as: "Oh yes, you are going to your room again to sit behind the computer; go under the desk if you want so that nobody can see you". He once or twice said: "If you have such serious issues, then go to a mental hospital". I've never been a social person and this sounds funny from his mouth considering he spends most of his time at home and have only one or two friends, and he himself had been shy in his young years. He does not support me enough in what I do and what I want to do - he thinks my interests and passions are bull**** and definitely does not understand my issues. He never even bought me a chocolate when I was a kid. He thinks his view is the correct one and cannot see how his behavior affects me.
As an autodidact in music (I began my self-directed study in music while I was studying Computer Science at university), I would had appreciated some moral support from him, but never received it. I am working on my first album with non-commercial, instrumental, electronic and experimental music, and unknown people and musicians support me and praise me more than my own family in total. And I am really insulted with his opinion that my psychological issues are not real, but a way to justify my laziness.
He doesn't care about art, music, films, spirituality, intriguing philosophical, scientific or paranormal topics, but mostly about doing his stuff in the garage, playing and watching tennis, watching news and sometimes Animal Planet. When I and my mother watch a movie, he goes to another room and considers movies dumb. When we watch funny, humorous shows and have a good laugh, he considers that stupid and makes remarks how dumb our laugh is. At the same time, he is at least somewhat sensitive - I see that, I have seen him crying over people's troubles, but he is not sensitive enough to me and my sensitivity. Both me and my mother can see he is sometimes much kinder to strangers and neighbors than to us; he sometimes puts their needs before his own. I suppose one of the reasons for this is because he has only a few friends and limited social contacts, so he wants to make good impression on other people and feel appreciated.
I have never needed much in the materialistic sense. I've never been a trouble for my family, never teased them constantly for money to buy new, fashionable clothes, go to parties, etc. as most kids do, never been rude, but cared only about a few long-term possessions. People and teachers often see me as interesting and having high potential, and I only wanted some attention from him, just to praise me for what I am and respect my interests and views; only needed his good word instead of reminding me of my problems and telling me how I cannot do something, I don't know a **** or have no talent. While I was studying, since I disliked the approach of the traditional educational system and paid attention mostly to the subjects I was interested in, he now keeps reminding me of my "failures" and mistakes, and pays no attention to the positive aspects, for example bad marks vs excellent marks.

Dear dad, maybe I am not exactly the son you wanted, but after all, I am your son... And no, the primary fault in our relations is not mine. I was just a lonely kid in a cruel world who was unable to fit in very well with any groups and stereotypes.

Wow... That was the most personal post I have ever written on boards. Thank you for reading this...

Lea, maybe you should take legal action if things go out of control. I was deeply moved by your story and feel enraged. Sorry I cannot help. If you need someone to talk to, I am around. You are right, he definitely has issues, but maybe you can improve your relations if you convince him to visit a psychologist?
 
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Feathers

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WOW, Kamen, I can relate... When I was younger, and music was on cassettes, Dad used to say it was a 'waste of money' to buy those - even if it was with my own money... I never asked for money or such either, did get allowance but they offered it themselves 'to learn to handle money'... I knew we had to economize and it wasn't hard for me to do so... if they said they needed the money for something else I'd probably chip in, but they didn't, hm
Of course now I know cassettes are not eco and not recyclable, so if it was explained to me that way, I'd probably understand it much better...

I think we belong to a generation of kids with parents who mostly criticised faults instead of telling the good bits too.. (Then bragged to co-workers about us!! yikes..)
Maybe it was also because we were supposed to be 'all equal' in ex-communism/socialism, so anyone 'standing out' would be 'not so great'(?)

I'd much rather he'd remember stuff about me, my wishes and interests, than get me chocolates or any stupid stuff I didn't want... Like kitschy trinkets from trips or such... After he was rude, he sometimes bought me stuff, like to make it up I guess?? And expected me to be all cheerful...
My dad was not really an alcoholic (though mum has sometimes feared he might become one) living with constant unpredictability can be very stressful though.. I've suspected him of being ADD/ADHD or bipolar-ish, undiagnosed of course, but of course the problem is usually us kids, and not him/them.. :rolleyes:

I think he sometimes lives in a movie where he has a completely different daughter... :)

Nanita, I can very much relate to what you're saying too.. It's difficult to trust people, especially men, after living with such unpredictable parents...

Luckycharms, KKK??? OMG!!

I see there are much worse parents out there, yikes...
 
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