Do you believe in God or Science?

Evolutionists must answer origin...there is no escaping this question. If all animals came from a single celled organism.....where did that single celled organism come from? There is no escaping this question.

If you follow the hiearchy, you must answer Cosmic evolution, organic evolution, and macro evolution?

Evolutionists will deceptively claim they are all about microevolution when actually...they must answer the other types of evolution mentioned above.


Believing in evolution = Great great great great grandpa came from a rock, there is no escaping this.

Evolution and Bible are polar opposites of each other. If you believe in one, you CANNOT believe in the other no matter how many times you say.

The evidence against evolution is MASSIVE. The evidence for evolution, there is NONE.

Carbon dating - freshly killed seal carbon dated 40,000 years old. Live snails carbon dated 20,000 years old. A leg of a mammoth carbon dated 20,000 years old, the other leg carbon dated 80,000 years old. When carbon dating supports their "theory/deception", they include it. When it doesn't, they deceptively hide it. This includes all types of carbon dating, they are all inaccurate/false.

Fossil records - The layer the fossil was found in determines it's age. The layer's age is determined by the fossils found in it. This is circular referencing...it's very deceptive. They find a small piece of bone and can magically determine the structure of the whole animal etc.


Face it, you believe you came from a rock and that monkeys evolved from bananas and birds came from dinosaurs.


Given all of this deception, it is very clear God is real and the bible is literally true.


Just look at these massive deception:
FAKE PENTAGON SMOKE - YouTube

CNN fake news - YouTube

Just because there isn't currently an answer to a question, it doesn't mean that there will never be an answer to a question. This is common sense.

And it is utterly and profoundly wrong to assume that just because evolutionists don't have ALL the answers, it follows that everything you believe is true. This is also common sense.

And I don't understand why you're saying that evolutionists can't account for macro-evolution. If you make one tiny change to a single cell in your body then it is not going to make much of a difference to the whole, but if, over the generations, you make billions and billions of tiny changes to billions and billions of cells, then YES, you are going to end up with something different. This is also common sense.

I could understand choosing to believe in God because there's some sort of intuitive impulse within you that is driving you in that direction, but what I can't understand is why anyone would choose to believe in God because of false dichotomies, logical fallacies and politics. That's pretty much the worst reason that anyone could possibly have to do anything.

Odo said:

I think he means that warcraft said that evolutionists think humans are related to rocks.

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No "evolutionist" ever said that we are related to rocks. That's plain ridiculous. :kickingmyself: Not to mention that "evolutionist" is a term like "air breather" or "people-who-sleep-at-night". Those that are called "evolutionists" are simply educated people that know what scientific facts are, whereas people who doubt evolution are random people who keep shouting "no no no no no" and think that by doing that they prove their point or take part in any form of discussion.

warcraft said:

Believing in evolution = Great great great great grandpa came from a rock, there is no escaping this.

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Just by claiming such nonsense you disqualify yourself from being taken seriously in any discussion about science or evolution. It's as if I'd try to argue about soccer and start each discussion with "So let's get back to the soccer balls, that weight ten thousand metric tons and have the size of a medium skyscraper. How can they kick it?" It makes no sense to talk to someone like that.

coyote said:

you ask this, but then you do exactly the same thing and try to convert everyone else to YOUR way of thinking

not just in this thread, but many others

something you might want to reflect on

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If someone says "this is just what I believe, and that's all I want to talk about it", then I would never push the subject. But if someone claims stuff in a discussion that I have an opinion about, then I share my opinion. I can't count how many "come to our religious seminar" letters I already got that I never asked for. I can count how many "abandon religion, stick to science" letters I got in my mailbox: zero.

OK, give me single evidence for evolution. Go ahead.

You are ignoring everything I've said above, people who believe in evolution must answer origin, no way around it.

warcraft said:

OK, give me single evidence for evolution. Go ahead.

You are ignoring everything I've said above, people who believe in evolution must answer origin, no way around it.

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You just sent me a private message saying that the Earth is flat. I thought you'd be remotely interested in a serious discussion, but it turns out you are just a troll who aims at wasting other peoples time. So please, troll somebody else.

Flanscho said:

You just sent me a private message saying that the Earth is flat. So please, troll somebody else. I'm always up for a serious discussion, but not with someone who is only interested in wasting my time.

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Have you seen the earth from space? Did you personally go up there to see if it was a globe? I've shown you several TV fakeries, could not the photos of the "round earth" be fake? Which experiment has shown the earth is round?

Have you seen google earth? It shows thousands and thousands of satellites in space at different orbit levels.

Here is a video of the thousands of thousands of satellites:
How Many Satellites Are Currently In Orbit Video - YouTube

However, whenever the Hubble telescope takes a photo of the earth...the satellites are missing (sure blame the exposure settings).

I was really hoping this thread would just die. It was troll-started, it's full of trollish material, and it leads to inevitable face-palming.

mg:

So much face-palming. I could spend hours trying to address it--but why?

Meh.

Move along, nothing to see here....