What if there's something other at work then pure anxiety

gustavofring

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There's so many things that could be wrong with our bodies that could possibly influence our minds and discomfort.

Wether it's a lack of proper sleep, some food allergy, fatigue, bad matress, some toxin in your home that's making you sick, diabetes, some virus, fungal infection, etc. etc.

How do you guys know for sure it's only your mind and psychology and not some unknown undiagnosed thing in your body?
 

market.garden

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I definitely think that other factors like sleep, diet, general physical health have a big impact on how our minds work.

It stands to reason that if a person's anxious or depressed enough as it is, having to worry about feeling tired or unwell just adds to the problems and makes the anxiety even worse.
 

coyote

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good question

i think there are probably a number of factors at work, and it's probably wise to take a holistic approach to healing

the mind is a product of the brain, which is an organ in the body - dependent on the overall health of the body to work to it's fullest capacity - just like every other organ

i highly doubt that the human body evolved to sit alone in a dark room, immobile, eating processed snacks hand over fist, and staring endlessly at flickering electronic rectangles

is it really any wonder that we're so unhealthy?

and why, consequently, our minds don't think or feel as well as they are capable of?
 

WeirdyMcGee

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I personally have too many diagnosed factors that it's hard for my doctors to try and sort out any of the symptoms to focus on one at a time.
And when you have nowhere to start from; you're not going to get anywhere.
 

Gidi

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Great question, I think sleep, exercise, diets and ect has nothing to do with anxiety, I think its some other thing going on in the brain, I think its a chemical imbalance or its just circumstances in our life that got us this way....I don't know what it is but its not normal
 

Lea

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I think these other things can influence how one feels, but with me it was never enough to loose my SA. Even in times when I had perfect diet or excercise. Not to say they´re not worth it though!!
 

dottie

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don't laugh but this is a theory i have. i am serious. maybe for some people anxiety is manifested due to the physical, yes physical, makeup of their body. perhaps things like tendons, ligaments, muscle, inner body parts you cannot see are slightly smaller in length than which would comfortably fit our size therefore creating a permanent sort of unease. for example, someone's ligaments in their shoulders are too short by a couple of millimeters than is physically comfortable to match the span of their bones. maybe someone's tongue is a couple of millimeters too long for their mouth so that all throughout their life they are unconsciously, constantly pulling their tongue back so as not to bite it. if their tongue was only a millimeter or too shorter they would be able to easier rest their jaw, being much more relaxed. but it's something that never occurs to them, it just manifests as general anxiety. i would call this literally feeling comfortable in your own skin. these are just examples and i know they sound silly but i really think there is validity to this.

eta (edited to add):
i am not saying this is true for all people or that it would be the sole cause of anxiety. definitely, there are emotional and environment factors. but i am saying that this is an unaddressed factor that does not even occur to people/professionals because it is seemingly trivial and is not readily fixable.
 
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dyingtolive

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i think the mind influences the body to screw itself up. so the body does cause the suffering, but it came from the mind. so what comes first, chicken or egg

i think that trauma locks itself up in the body also.
your energy flow may be totally clogged in some areas.
our body also reinforces our anxiety, your muscles also tense more unconsciously and the body can be so unrelaxed.

some people take it to the extreme with cleanliness of body. very strict raw food diet. but i think the best medicine is genuine happiness and not having negative persistent cycling thoughts and fears. but of course all help, exercise, healthy food, healthy lifestyle, yoga or other similar practices
 

Lea

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don't laugh but this is a theory i have. i am serious. maybe for some people anxiety is manifested due to the physical, yes physical, makeup of their body. perhaps things like tendons, ligaments, muscle, inner body parts you cannot see are slightly smaller in length than which would comfortably fit our size therefore creating a permanent sort of unease. for example, someone's ligaments in their shoulders are too short by a couple of millimeters than is physically comfortable to match the span of their bones. maybe someone's tongue is a couple of millimeters too long for their mouth so that all throughout their life they are unconsciously, constantly pulling their tongue back so as not to bite it. if their tongue was only a millimeter or too shorter they would be able to easier rest their jaw, being much more relaxed. but it's something that never occurs to them, it just manifests as general anxiety. i would call this literally feeling comfortable in your own skin. these are just examples and i know they sound silly but i really think there is validity to this.

Hahaha :D. That was a great example. But you´re right.. in my case I suspect it might be the messed up position of some body organs. It seems to me in people with more narrow skeleton the insides must hold better together. (being serious here)
 

psych

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I have often felt, for me, that it's a byproduct of how often I've been attacked physically... From living in exaggeratedly unsafe situations, almost since I was born.
I went from the classic mom & dad house in a cozy suburbanite neighborhood to... An alcoholic household where keg parties and all kinds of drugs were about... Along with bikers and hammered Italian relatives...
To a household where a parent allowed me to be abused by their mate, & mate's two offspring for years... My own brother turned his back on me and participated in the abuse... To getting beat up by a single parent, after my brother was shipped off to the military, to finally being homeless at 17... The climb back to independence left a lot to be desired..
I was what is called hyperaware, & still am at times, it can be an asset at my job. I've learned to harness my anxiety for survival, but, the SA... It does nothing but make life harder...
Hence, the thought it may simply be a bad byproduct of a slightly rough life... For me.

Does that make sense :confused:
 
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