Too bad, so sad - for me

cowboyup

Well-known member
Wow, where to begin. *deep breath*
In the grand scheme of things, no this is not a life changer, however, I am hoping I can gain your wisdom, insight...eh, something??

My NY *friend* is having difficulty (I'll get to this in a moment). OK, with that said, I need to confess to the fact we were in a fwb situation before he left. (I know, not a surprise... :( )

But through talking with him through skype and text, I am quickly learning things are not adding up. So, with among other things he has going on, he slipped and told me that he was 'in love' with someone, girl A - but then they ended up cheating on each other and then he started dating another girl - girl B.

So, while he was still pining for girl A, he's developed feelings for girl B as well. Girl B started having medical problems-serious medical problems, he revealed to me. Meanwhile, he left girl B and went back and was rejected by girl A and as he said, 'had violent feelings like wanting to hurt her bf'... Then he lost his job, and was still in love with girl A, but seeing girl B on and off.

I saw him the day before he left for NY and he said he's hitting the road alone, and that was the plan all along.

recently, he said, "well girl B and I contemplated going to NY together but with her medical condition, she didn't want to be a burden so I just left"
(by the way, this made girl B feel abandoned by him, he told me)

This is the exact opposite what he told me.

Girl B recently underwent surgery and apparently he was the first person she called to say the surgery went well. And of course, this stirred feelings in him.

Now, my NY friend is thinking on moving back here temporarily because he doesn't feel at home in NY and he's always been a yes or no person but feels restless, bored, unsure of things, etc...

There's a LOT more, but I don't know exactly how to explain some of it.

Also, He's currently getting flack from the city regarding where his RV is parked at his friend's house, and the fact that he lives in the RV. So someone from the city is going to come out and make sure he's not living in it, therefore he's going to stay in his friend's spare room for a few weeks.

So, this along with his feelings for girl A and girl B are still boiling inside him, and he just doesn't know what to do.

OK, so where am I going with all this?

I've been lied to. I've been piecing the days/dates/what was told to me, etc. and what it boiled down to is that he was seeing both girl A and girl B and me. Yes, yes, I know I was never the gf just a fwb, but excuse my naivete
but can you be in love/love 2 people at the same time, and then have a casual fling on the side with no regret or looking back? Perhaps both girls got mad at him because they found out about me and he's not saying anything to me.

I would much rather he had just said, "look, I am dating 2 people (or one if he so chose) and I am in love so let's just be friends WITHOUT the benefit part"

Had he said something along those lines, I would have backed off because I had no clue all this was going on and he is a strong advocate on no condom yes, stupid of me, but luckily I get regular check ups.

So now, I get tons of texts from him acting as his emotional crutch of oh how sad he is, lonely, he made bad choices, etc, etc, etc.

Next time we talk I am questioning him...Not that I really care now, but I thought if nothing else, we were friends, but I am finding out lie after lie as well.

Would you feel betrayed?
I am sorry for this sounding more like a 'relationship thing' rather than SA, but since finding these tidbits of lies, I haven't felt like leaving my room, much less the house because I feel so drained - not to mention how dumb I feel for not knowing or even having a clue about these things.
 
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This dude sounds like he uses women, in my opinion. I hate a liar, have no use at all for one. Ever. Is he wanting to keep you hanging on or is there a "girl C" somewhere he ain't talking about? I'd get tired of trying to piece the lies together and just be done with him, that's just me. I just feel compelled to ask, was this friends with benefits thing mutual or just on his end?
 

cowboyup

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This dude sounds like he uses women, in my opinion. I hate a liar, have no use at all for one. Ever. Is he wanting to keep you hanging on or is there a "girl C" somewhere he ain't talking about? I'd get tired of trying to piece the lies together and just be done with him, that's just me. I just feel compelled to ask, was this friends with benefits thing mutual or just on his end?

Yes, I am quite certain he does use women ...

I am done with it, and here I thought we were friends (I am way too honest and trusting I guess)

I don't know if he does want to keep me hanging on, but from all the things I am piecing together, I am done - friendship and all. As for a girl C, I don't know.

Fwb thing was mutual I guess - nothing was ever verbalized about being such. We had common interests (hobbies) and could carry on conversation about most topics at length...I thought of him as friend with an occasional perk, but never knew of any other people (boy, I feel foolish!) :kickingmyself:
 
Don't feel that way. You didn't do anything wrong. He just needs to grow up is what it sounds like. I don't like a user of unsuspecting people. And way back when, I had a few FWB's but I was upfront about other girls I was seeing and whatnot, I figure that's fair. I'd see other girls/they'd see other guys, no big deal. But this dude you're talking about sounds like he uses women as an ago boost or something to me. Stop beating yourself up over him, obviously he doesn't even deserve your friendship.
 

cowboyup

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@jc, yes, THAT I could deal with - someone being upfront even though some may say it need not be clarified when in fwb, I think it's just courteous, I guess.
 

jaim38

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This guy sounds like a player. I would also feel betrayed and angry if I were you. He's cheating on those girls and that's just wrong.

but can you be in love/love 2 people at the same time, and then have a casual fling on the side with no regret or looking back?

I don't think this dude knows what love is. He sounds like an immature kid playing around with people's hearts. Or maybe he's just into polygamy, don't know.
 

cowboyup

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This guy sounds like a player. I would also feel betrayed and angry if I were you. He's cheating on those girls and that's just wrong.

I don't think this dude knows what love is. He sounds like an immature kid playing around with people's hearts. Or maybe he's just into polygamy, don't know.


Thanks, jaim, yup a player with a lying heart...
 
Wanna-be-player. I'm of the school of thought that thinks if he was a real "player", neither of the three would know about each other. This guy = epic fail!
 

cowboyup

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Wanna-be-player. I'm of the school of thought that thinks if he was a real "player", neither of the three would know about each other. This guy = epic fail!

Lol, hmm....good point. hadn't thought of it that way!
 

cowboyup

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I wanted to mention that I am in no way male bashing - I just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea with this discussion. It takes 2 (or 3) to tango and I had my part in it too.

Even though it was fwb situation, and I know the 'rules' of that game, I still would have preferred him to tell me that he was in love with someone and that be that.

Hope that makes sense. I just draw the line when what I thought was a good friend to talk to with, and who understood my ordeal with SA, etc. and now that I feel like I poured my heart out to a 'friend' but was really a two-faced person - I guess that is the thing that bugs me most...in all of this, I lost a friend (or someone I THOUGHT was a friend - and not just someone to have a fling with)

Again, I don't want to come off as being entirely naive in the situation but at the same token, there was a lot of other stuff that had went on that would be too lengthy to mention here (and a moot point).

OK, nuff said

:)
 

Odo

Banned
I don't blame you for being upset, but yeah, as you said, you can't really expect too much from an FWB. The only reason people actually choose to be in that kind of situation is so they won't have to commit to someone... and I guess because in the meantime they figure they might as well be having sex with someone they don't really care about.

I would just drop him and not think too much more about it. What happens to the other people involved is their business and unless you actually know them, it's probably best to just stay out of it.
 

Pacific_Loner

Pirate from the North Pole
Someone who lies to you in order to make it more simple to use you to satisfy his needs, cannot be call a friend, and therefor there is no need to justify yourself while kicking him out of your life besides "you're too much trouble".
 
Sounds like a mess. That guy and those women got some serious issues dependency issues. The guy is juts going back and forth and using women. You should cut that scumbag off immediately and find people that won't use you as a "on the side piece of ***".
 
Also, I don't think this guy or any of these women know what love or a healthy relationship is. the girl he says he loves is really just a person to cling onto with his emotional baggage. He will also try to sleep with girls on the side too.
 

cowboyup

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Thanks to you all for your responses. Much appreciate your point of view :)

Since posting the discussion, I've talked to him once, only to conclude and put to rest this alleged *friendship* I thought we had going. I am proud to say I gave him a piece of my mind (with the help of reading what y'all wrote here) I feel that helped reassure myself that I was not blowing it all out of proportion or distorting the situation.

So, Thank You :)

It was ridiculous, he started to whine to me about how he was living in his RV without electricity or working plumbing as his pipes burst & had the option of staying with his friend - in the spare bedroom - but chose to stay in the RV without any amenities (necessities).

At that point, I told him, enough with the sh** and that started my whole rant and getting him out of my life. This may sound a bit harsh, and as originally posted, there was a lot more that went on that I couldn't even begin to start writing, lol. But I just had enough and washed my hands of this person, concluded it was a learning experience, if nothing else, and walked away. End of story.
 
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