SAD & The Lack Of Connections

Ashiene

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Another disabling factor of SAD in finding jobs is the lack of personal connections. I have always heard of people around me talking about how they got jobs due to knowing people who know people who are hiring, or friends who are employers themselves, or friends who can vouch for them to a hiring manager who is a friend. And stuff like that.

http://www.cnn.com.sg/2010/LIVING/09/16/cb.who.you.know/index.html

Of course, the traditional resume application and interview method works also, but many of us have never worked (or worked very little) in our lives due to the crippling effects of social interaction at almost all jobs.

In the rare chance that your blank resume is looked at for more than 2 seconds and in the even rarer chance that you are selected for an interview, then SAD kicks in to turn us mute, shaking, whimpering little children who cannot even make eye contact with the interviewer.

In the extremely rare chance that you pass the interview and get a job, you still have to face the horror of being surrounded by socially extroverted people at the workplace, and that is where most of us barely last a few days, or weeks or months before breaking down and either being fired due to screwups caused by SAD or just quitting due to mental overload.

So people like us have it really difficult. It is like running a race (because we are far behind academically, socially, financially) with towering obstacles higher than what non-SA people face. We have to put in a thousand times more effort into everything, and that's not even considering how fighting SAD + Depression (which usually is co-morbid) is more than a full-time job in itself that exhausts us to the point where we can hardly make time for anything else.
 
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squidgee

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Now applying for a job seems more intimidating than ever. It doesn't help that some employers are now scanning Facebook profiles and other forms of social media, making judgements based on number of friends, type of content that's posted, even what you like on Facebook. I don't use Facebook, don't really have a use for it. If an interviewer wishes to view my Facebook and I reply that I don't have one, they'll probably think somethings wrong with me, because apparently everybody has one now.

I also recently read this Cracked article, seemed relevant so I'll link it below.
6 Ways Companies Are Secretly Screwing Job Applicants | Cracked.com
 

Ashiene

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Now applying for a job seems more intimidating than ever. It doesn't help that some employers are now scanning Facebook profiles and other forms of social media, making judgements based on number of friends, type of content that's posted, even what you like on Facebook. I don't use Facebook, don't really have a use for it. If an interviewer wishes to view my Facebook and I reply that I don't have one, they'll probably think somethings wrong with me, because apparently everybody has one now.

I also recently read this Cracked article, seemed relevant so I'll link it below.
6 Ways Companies Are Secretly Screwing Job Applicants | Cracked.com

In privacy settings you can make friend list (including number of friends) visible only to yourself, also make wall posts hidden from non-friends, and 'liked' pages visible only to yourself. So a potential employer needs to add you as a friend to even know such details about you. And if he says he would not give you an interview or a job if you don't add him as a friend (so he can spy on your profile), then I don't think that is a boss you want.
 

A86

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The following is just an opinion. I mean no offense.

"Its not what you know. It's who you know"

A phrase that comes to mind. Even with my poor social circle, it was still that little circle that got my foot in the door for pretty much 99% of the jobs I have had.

I have listened to more than one HR person complain about the waste of time advertising & interviewing people is (because its company policy) when they have already decided who they are going to select. And I agree, it is a waste of time, not just for them but for the applicants.

It does make it more difficult for the socially challenged. Just looking around my workplace of ~250 people I estimate...

10% - got this job through social ties & should not be working here, no nothing & learn nothing. they just create more work for others

75% - got this job through social ties & have learned to understand the work over time or already had some skills & understanding to begin with

15% - got this job because of their skills (no social ties)


When I look at this type of environment(may be different elsewhere around the world but sums up where I live), it makes me think I should have done a social degree, learnt how to tap social things to my benefit at University instead of a specialised degree, after all getting a job is the hard part, you can always learn how to do the job later providing you have the means to keep your social circles. Plus this social experience can be applied to just about everything, compared to my degree which is niche.

Anyways the point I am getting at is the majority of the workforce were employed & preferred because of who they know rather than what they know. Its also much difficult to prove yourself on skills alone as that takes time.
 

Ashiene

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Yes, that's why there are those people who get headhunted and poached by people from other companies even though they already have a job. Like my sister for example. She is the complete opposite of me. Extremely social and has many connections. While she was working one job, her friends and colleagues would spread the word about her to their friends in other companies, who would then contact her and ask if she wanted to join their company.

She has worked 6 jobs and has only done interview for 1 job in her life. She bypassed the other 5 job interviews (her resume got submitted directly to the boss instead of hiring manager) because of recommendations by other people.
 

jaim38

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I'm experiencing the same problem too. My work history is almost blank. The last job I had, I didn't last a month before they fired me. Now, I'm doing volunteer work at a nonprofit. They had me calling up strangers and working with HR. Honestly, I don't like what I'm doing and feel like quitting so many times, but I don't have much of a choice. I needed people who can vouch for me to hiring managers, so I'm stuck here for at least a couple more months before i find another opportunity.
 

laure15

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Now applying for a job seems more intimidating than ever. It doesn't help that some employers are now scanning Facebook profiles and other forms of social media, making judgements based on number of friends, type of content that's posted, even what you like on Facebook. I don't use Facebook, don't really have a use for it. If an interviewer wishes to view my Facebook and I reply that I don't have one, they'll probably think somethings wrong with me, because apparently everybody has one now.

I also recently read this Cracked article, seemed relevant so I'll link it below.
6 Ways Companies Are Secretly Screwing Job Applicants | Cracked.com

I have an FB account but I'm not active on it. Instead, I have developed a Google+ account for professional purposes (as well as some socializing, but keeping it clean). If recruiters ask me for access to my FB account, I will just tell them I don't have FB and instead give them my Google+ account. After that, I can just change my password so they can't log in again.
 

laure15

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@Ashiene: nice disguise! I'm assuming that's the photoshopped version of yourself with a wig. You would have no problem scoring jobs like this.
 

Ashiene

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@Ashiene: nice disguise! I'm assuming that's the photoshopped version of yourself with a wig. You would have no problem scoring jobs like this.

What???! No, that is Park Soyeon from K-pop group T-ara whom has been a source of motivation for me for many years.
 

laure15

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What???! No, that is Park Soyeon from K-pop group T-ara whom has been a source of motivation for me for many years.

I did remember you saying that you take pictures of yourself impersonating a girl and then photoshop them so I figured that must be you. Looks like I was wrong. It was too good to be true. There's no way a man could look that good even with lots of makeup...:bigsmile:
 
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