I'm loosing it

Englishman

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I can't take it anymore.. I think I'm edging closer to suicide more and more everyday... I can't accept my condition, I can't accept I'm part of the 1% that sugffers. I can't live a normal life, I'm trapped inside my own body I just can't go on anymore, why should I? This isn't living, this is existing.. I just wish someone would put a bullet through my head. Even if I do everybody will know why I done it, why isn't there a cure for this in 2013 it's ****ing ridiculous!!
 

8888

Active member
I do know how you feel as I feel exactly the same although I always say I wish I would not wake up in the morning.

How bad is your sweating and what areas are effected and what is it stopping you do?

I have Hand, foot and Armpit sweating which is pretty much constant through the day however any heat, exercise or anxiety turns on the taps and most of my body will sweat, so I feel this is a reason as to why I don't like going out and being around people.

I too cannot accept Hyperhidrosis and spend a lot of time thinking why theres no cure or at least good enough treatments that work for me.

So whilst I cannot stand the situation there are not many options, which is even more annoying.

I am going to retry most of the treatments whilst trying to accept it at the same time and try not put so much importance on the sweating (easier said than done).

So for armpits I have Botox which does help 80% but in an anxiety situation it does not work.
I have never tried Iontophoresis so I will be doing that very soon, also I will be trying to get the correct dosage of Oxybutynin as that does help but gives me a bad headache.
For Facial sweating I will be using the various antiperspirant gels (Neat face saver) just to help in certain situations.

I know none of these will ever be good enough but if they can help just control it, maybe I will be able to build my tolerance to it and not let it effect me to the level it has done again all easier said than done.

I am not really good at saying things to help people. I would say, just try to take a step back and see what else you can focus on, whilst still trying to treat the sweating and maybe go through all treatment options again whilst looking at coping stratergies and let me know if you find any as I have been looking for years:thumbup:
 

aries86

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I hear ya Englishman. I wish I could take your pain away as well as for myself and all HH sufferers. Please don't hurt yourself. I don't know you but I see your posts and you seem like a really cool person. HH sucks. Its even more frustrating because there isn't a lot of help and there is absolutely no explanation for why we have this. Those who don't have it would argue, but I believe it is one of the worst ailments you could possibly have. I mean I could write a book on all the ways that HH is hindering. It makes everyday activities uncomfortable and exhausting and we are constantly trying to adapt ourselves in order to cope. It's almost as though like we are prisoners in our own lives. There is no bright side but I like to think that it is nice to at least have other people on here to talk to, especially when you're feeling down. Just remember, you're not alone. I know your feelings and I feel the same way everyday. Some times it would be easier to give up and not feel the pain anymore, but please don't. It's not worth it. When I feel like you're feeling I always remind myself that with my silly luck, I would do something crazy, and they would develop a logical cure or treatment in the near future. Hang in there :)
 

Englishman

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I'm affected everywhere except my face to be honest... started off just hands and feet, last 2 month I've obtained under arm sweating too. :( Even when I sleep I wake up my legs and groin and absolutely SOAKED. It's like I'm living in a nightmare... no one else in my family is affected, I wish my absolute BITCH of a sister got this condition instead of me. Infact, I wish someone people could just live in our bodies for one day, I'm sure they'd be that horrified with themselves they'd feel like commiting suicide too...

I'm giving it like 5 years, if there's no more progress in the HH field I'm seriously giving up.
 

Englishman

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Also, my feet are like yellow of my feet sweating, I don't know why, does anybody else have this problem... I'm so sick at the moment.
 

laure15

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Hi Englishman. I also suffer from HH especially in the underarms, back, nose, and sometimes chest. Not so much the hands and feet.

Also, my feet are like yellow of my feet sweating, I don't know why, does anybody else have this problem... I'm so sick at the moment.

This could be a sign of fungal infection, like athlete's foot. You might want to get this checked out by a doctor.
 

aries86

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lol, I always wish people could see what this feels like as well. On another note, as far as discoloration goes. My hands and feet turn bright, bright fire engine red during the winter. It's like my bodies way of further defying nature and humiliating me. The colder it is the harder my hands and feet sweat and the redder they get. Sometimes it feels like they are going to pop off. I've seen in the archives that others have experienced discoloration as well. I think there could be something there.
 

gg1101

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I feel you. I've often had the same thoughts. If not for my parents, and how much pain it would cause them, I might have already done it. I've spent thousands of dollars on various treatments, some of which help but none of which completely solve my problem. Combine that with my lack of employment, despite having a law degree, and my life really sucks. I've started using kratom on a daily basis to take the edge off, and that is only because of a lack of real opiates that are available. I have noticed that I've started living a much more reckless life, since I don't think I really care if I live or die. Though something inside of me carries on, and I have even though about just saying screw my law degree, going back to school, and going to med school to become a neurologist and find a cure for this hell.
 

Luna1740

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(I'm purely providing information based on my own experiences, and I'm not a doctor, just someone to talk to)
Here's my take on what may be going on, feel free to pm me if you want to talk:

Your HH is likely related to your sympathetic nervous system. Due to both genetic and environmental stimuli, your body "believes" that the proper thing to do is to produce excess sweat. I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that you are between the ages of 18-24 (I don't care how old you are, just going off your symptoms). In a weird way, your suicidal thoughts, at least based off of my own experiences, may help provide a way for managing your symptoms. Being suicidal on a daily basis is awful (and although, to me, it is weird that other people aren't constantly dealing with this level of depression), everyone always tells me that this level of depression isn't normal. I wouldn't be surprised if in your past/current you've had to deal with some really difficult/painful situations, that, if you're like me, have added to your current situation. It's very likely that your HH is greatly magnified by the anxiety from dealing with HH which sounds illogical (and that illogic is where psychology comes in, which I would be happy to talk to you about via pm).

LOOK INTO THESE THINGS:

1. If you have HH, always-double check that you ARE NOT sleeping on a plastic lined mattress. It seems like lining the mattress would be a good idea in order to keep the sweat off of it, but (as ridiculous as it may sound) putting a plastic cover on your mattress will increase your sweating ten-fold.

2. If your underarms are a big part of it (my anxiety leads me to overproduce sweat from my armpits)... Panty-liners stuck to the inside of your shirt (I'm a guy, and I believe that is the right term, I'm sure any girl in your life will help you out) this is the ultimate discovery that I've come across (to answer your next question: nobody will be able to tell that they are there) (Also, you don't want them to have any perfumes or anything as it may irritate your skin)

3. (Depending on a variety of factors) "Alpha blockers" or "Beta blockers" may provide some relief.

4. Prescription deodorant

5. Whenever you go anywhere, tell whoever you are talking to that you sweat a lot (I've never once had someone react in a negative fashion). It'll be scary the first couple of times, but when you tell them it will take all of your body's power over your mind away. Instead of the feelings of humiliation and anxiety (especially around the opposite sex) that you might normally feel, you'll be able to focus on living your life, instead of whether or not they can see how much you sweat.



As far as I can tell, it looks like you've got some choices to make (assuming that you want things to change). Firstly, you need to find a way to overcome looking at suicide as an option. For example, I decided to stop looking at suicide as a something I have control over, and instead as an external tormentor. In doing this, I can honestly say that I've come out of some of my darkest moments laughing. Because, no matter how hard it tries to get me to give in or whatever life throws at me, laughing in the face of such a tremendous pain until it realizes it can't break you, well, my friend, I can assure you that, watching Death itself scurry away... is absolutely a sight worth living for.
Secondly, assuming you've both chosen to live, and to continue reading, you need to decide, if you haven't already, how to go about better managing your HH. I've been told too many times by too many people, both by specialists and amateurs, that what I suffer from will never get better, only to find some way to improve far beyond what I "should be capable of". I say this in the hopes that you will never stop trying to live the life that you want to live, and sure you may never be 100% cured, hell, you may never get 1% cured, but at the very very very least, even if it never goes away, you'll know that your HH regrets the day it chose your life to start messing with.
Thirdly, chose to not be like me. I waited until I was at rock bottom, and I was completely broken mentally, emotionally, and physically, before I got help (and at that point I had to be carried, literally). Whether it is through meds, talking to someone, being talked to, etc.
Finally, think, really deeply think about what you'd tell you to do, or advice you'd give a loved one going through what you're going through. I realize that "talking to yourself" is probably the wrong thing to tell someone to do in order to improve their mental state, but I highly recommend it (I write myself letters)
 

Englishman

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Thanks for your posts guys.. It just goes to show how nice the people of this forum are. It's just so hard... The levels of sadness I feel everyday are so unbearable I honestly don't know how much longer I can go on. I'm really active in this section of the forum, if anybody ever wants to chat I'm sure I can relate to all of your horrfying experiences.

All we can do is hope for the miracle that some day we might be cured of this.. It would be better than my favourite football team winning a cup final x10... Imagine the europhia guys, just imagine.
 

0707129r

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Thanks for your posts guys.. It just goes to show how nice the people of this forum are. It's just so hard... The levels of sadness I feel everyday are so unbearable I honestly don't know how much longer I can go on. I'm really active in this section of the forum, if anybody ever wants to chat I'm sure I can relate to all of your horrfying experiences.

All we can do is hope for the miracle that some day we might be cured of this.. It would be better than my favourite football team winning a cup final x10... Imagine the europhia guys, just imagine.

I can definitely relate to your frustration. Have you given avert (glycopyrrolate) a go?
 

Englishman

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I've been perscribed 2.5mg ditropan but it doesn't seem to be working too well... I'm not sure of what dose I'm supposed to be taking though. I haven't given gylpo a go, have you? If so please tell me your results.
 

0707129r

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I've been perscribed 2.5mg ditropan but it doesn't seem to be working too well... I'm not sure of what dose I'm supposed to be taking though. I haven't given gylpo a go, have you? If so please tell me your results.

It's widely known that glyco is the most effective oral treatment (currently) for HH. I've been using it on and off with very high success (90% plus), albeit side effects, for around 2 years. As long as the dose is high enough and taken on an empty stomach, it is bound to work you for, and for the whole body. It takes around 4 hours to kick in, and last for around 8 hours give or take. You can order from pharmacy.ca with no problems. From what you've said, I think you'll find it highly effective if not life changing. See ROBINUL: Side effects, ratings, and patient comments for reviews
 

Sprawling

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Like I said before, ENglishman needs to go on a different support group. Not much we can do for you here if you are feeling suicidal. Please get some help!
 

HHDisturbed

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Englishman, I apologize for the previous harsh delivery of my still existing feelings.

The point I wanted to make is that there is no cure for HH. Everyone who has HH is different and reacts differently to various treatments. Step one in helping yourself is to accept that fact then try to find a treatment that works best for you. I can guarantee that your excessive stressing is only making your HH worse. So stay calm and dont give up...keep trying different things till you find something that helps. In the mean time do your best to hide it and make preparations for those occasions when a bad HH episode is likely.

In regard to your claims of being on the brink of suicide over your excessive sweating:
When there are millions of others in the world who are victims of things a million times worse than HH...and yet they per severe with strength and courage to overcome...well, I cannot help but be feel a bit incited. But if your thoughts of suicide because you sweat a lot are sincere...then you need to get yourself some professional help right away.

Wish you the best!
 
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Knickerless

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You need to try Glyco before you give up. I'm not saying give up, I'm saying you are yet to try the most successful treatment based on this board and my own opinion. The side effects can be a bitch but thats for you to weigh up. My HH is full body and goes through bad period which can last months. During these times I know I need to exercise more, sleep more, drink less and take Glyco on days when I don't want sweat my clothes through. There is a ton of info on here about how to take it and, again, the consensus here is that taking it 3/4 hours before you need to stop sweating and on an empty stomach is the best way. The effects may lessen when you eat so you may need to skip breakfast but if you manage to get it working at its best for you then you can work the rest out and adjust to best meet your needs. In conclusion I would recommend Glyco prior to suicide.
 

86theHH

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Dude, I do understand what you are going through and I'm 100% certain others on this site understand as well. HH is a very embarrassing thing and ridiculously frustrating to deal with every day.

Please take the advice that Luna1740 is offering in his post!

For overall body sweating, I agree with the other people who have posted that Rubinul or the generic Glycopyrrolate will greatly lessen the condition.

1. Talk to your dermatologist and get the 1mg pills and take 1mg to start with. Your dermatologist should recommend this for you.
2. After 8 hours, if you do not see results, take two 1mg pills and then wait for the results.
3. Again, after 8 hours if 2mg is not effective move up to 3mg and wait for the results.
4. You should move up 1mg until you have the results you want.

I ended up finding 4mg twice a day, helped me significantly.

Good luck and post your results!!
 

foulbeast

Member
the only advice i can give you is to do activities where sweating isnt embarrassing. like running, playing football, swimming, etc.. it might loose you up a bit.

and def give glyco a go...
 
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