i think i found what cause SA

divethruhaze

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Serotonin Transporter Gene Tied to Social Anxiety​

Previous research has shown that people who instead have one short and one long (S/L) version -- which is more common in people of Asian descent -- tend to exhibit more social anxiety and similar behaviors.

yay! being asian rocks >_>
 
Great post, but this is ony a COMPONENT OF SA. I very much doubt the frequency of social anxiety anywhere nearly matches the frequency of the transporter mutation. People develope Social Anxiety Phobias, at least after childhood, because they are anxious obsessives who experience traumatizing social encounters. The neurological basis makes it possible, but it isn't the direct cause. A trigger is needed as well.

Have you found any genetic research on OCD?
 

hoddesdon

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The question that popped into my mind is how knowing this can assist in counteracting it. That does not seem to be answered. Phobologist is right that this genetic characteristic creates fertile ground, but the ground needs to be seeded as well. It is not sufficient by itself.
 

Honda

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Doesnt really matter..

Ask yourself whats the solution?

There will always be tougher and weaker people no matter what the cause is... Those who can manage to adapt to the dynamics of life will survive...

Cuz this sounds more like an excuse to stay where you are and never get anywhere in life..

I had a severe social phobia some people find it very weird and awkward behavior. I worked on myself and got rid of most of it.. In the end of the day the cause of it didnt matter rather how I dealt and lived with it...
 
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Mokkat

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Very interesting read. The increased number of asian people with this gene, most likely corresponds to the increased emphasis on politeness and honor in some asian countries. I would very much like to move to fx Japan at some point, I suspect I might feel more at home there
 

goldatom

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I'd say the solution is SSRIs(Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) in the short term and CBT(Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy) in the long term. But saying is the easy part for me, because any psychiatric medicines cause me to have distressing mental experiences and hence immediate anxieties get in the way of CBT.
 

fitftw

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seratonin...is what is released all at once when you take a hit of ecstasy. Something I've taken many times in my life, but not within the last 5 years. Now I see why I have anxiety and depression and ****ed up thoughts all the time.
 

JosephG

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I'm not sure that you can say that the relationship is causal - until proven this is at least just a correlation.
I've read a bit of research anyway saying that serotonin and dopamine levels in the brain are not altered by conditions like depression/anxiety due to a series of experiments scientists have performed. At the moment I believe this to be true - I think that when we use medications like SSRIs we are unnaturally increasing the levels of serotonin in the brain to counteract some of the negative symptoms of disorders like anxiety and depression. I believe that brain chemistry may not be the cause - and even if it is it is - it is a much more complex system than we are made to believe. We are made to believe that by simply increasing serotonin we will be happier. But the brain is a mish mash of many chemicals that are all inter-dependent on eachother. Increasing serotonin may increase/decrease other chemicals in the brain such as Norepinephrine and Acetylcholine etc. It may be that by altering the serotonin levels it will have a knock on effect and decrease another chemical that my be causing our depression.
anyway what I'm trying to say is that all of this research is in its very very early days. We are so much further behind in researching mental illness than we are physical illness. This research is a good thing though - it is one more piece in the extremely complex jigsaw puzzle that may one day be part of of model of understanding completely how mental disorders work and how to treat them...

I hope my post was coherent - I've just woken up XD
 

Mokkat

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Wrong.

The politeness and honor cherished mostly by Asian communities are merely cultural elements.

I am afraid suggesting that it has something to do with some form of a disorder may imply some racial drives. Be careful please if you didn't mean it that way.

You calling me a racist? Don't get me wrong, Im not suggesting some people are inferior, Im simply suggesting that a culture formed over time by populations prone to humbleness, have perhaps had a more solid social hierarchy and more emphasis on mutual respect and the mastering of skills. Culture's gotta come from somewhere, no?
No facts, just pondering.
 
Doesnt really matter..

Ask yourself whats the solution?

There will always be tougher and weaker people no matter what the cause is... Those who can manage to adapt to the dynamics of life will survive...

Cuz this sounds more like an excuse to stay where you are and never get anywhere in life..

I had a severe social phobia some people find it very weird and awkward behavior. I worked on myself and got rid of most of it.. In the end of the day the cause of it didnt matter rather how I dealt and lived with it...

Amen to that, my friend. It's like when people go to therapists who try to dig up their worst childhood memories and figure out why they behave in a certain way. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what made you a certain way... whether it was overprotective parents, a traumatic experience, or genetics. The ONLY thing that matters is how you take the hand that you've been dealt and make the best of it.
 

Lonelykitsune

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Maybe this is why I have SA since I've never had any traumatic social experinces. Time o warp my genes back to normal. To the microwave!
 
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