I hate people who are optimistic

Blabla..

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i really don't understand why so much hate , but please please let me know if i sound too optimistic sometimes , i don't wanna end up on that list
 
i really don't understand why so much hate , but please please let me know if i sound too optimistic sometimes , i don't wanna end up on that list

That's actually something I was afraid would happen due to this thread; people stopping wanting to be optimistic because they feel judged for it.

I actually enjoy your posts, Blabla, and I'm sure there are quite a number of others that do also. There are many variations of people on this site, and we all have things that don't sit well with us. The only way to make any website offense-proof, you have to shut it down completely. So, everyone gets annoyed once in a while (whether it's here, on another site or in real life), it just happens.

If you want to be positive, that's fine, if you want to be negative, that's fine too. But don't choose either one because you feel forced into the decision.
 

Feathers

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Yeah, this site is for self-expression and support...

People just like to be heard and acknowledged... It's really good to read something optimistic sometimes!!

(I was a bit worried if I'd been over-optimistic sometimes too, lol, but haven't been so much lately, so I guess it evens out...)

I think the OP and some others were just expressing frustration mostly with people in RL/on FB... (and maybe own life lol)

Just remember sometimes 'negative' people just need to be heard, or that even with a 'negative' outlook one can still work on one's problems sometimes too... sometimes you need to be really miserable and angry to get that 'push' to change your life for the better... And people can get close and stronger by just being miserable and crying or venting together sometimes too...

So it's better to just not take it too personally, there are 'upbeat' treads and problem threads on this site, and all sorts of threads (and people) are important and make this site what it is!!
 
I don't see what's so bad about being optimistic. A while ago I looked at my future and thought "I'm going to have a crappy job, I'm going to be single forever and I bet I'll lose all (two) of my friends. So I decided I don't want that to happen.

Honestly I hate the thought of going to school and being around that many people - but I go anyway.

I'm afraid I'm going to bore my friends so I get nervous when they want to hang out - but I hang out with them anyway.

Social Anxiety is NOT permanent. Your body reacts because it thinks you're being threatened. The ONLY way to stop the anxiety is to show yourself that it's not a threatening situation at all. And the only way you can do that is by putting yourself in those scary situations.
 

Kiwong

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i really don't understand why so much hate , but please please let me know if i sound too optimistic sometimes , i don't wanna end up on that list

Keep your optimism coming Blaba. The more optimism there is on here, the more it grows like a huge snowball.

I've been feeling optimistic at times, my life has improved too. The advice I try to give here is that life is long, it is possible that things can change and it is possible to enjoy life.
 
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MrJones

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I think that if you hate optimists you only increase your negativism....

I know sometimes it's hard and even depressing to see people so optimist when you are having a bad time, but you can also learn from those people. That's what I did when I was feeling bad and I can tell you it works if it's done the right way.
 

david p

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I know what you mean, I recently met with up an old friend in france to watch a football game, quite how i managed it i,ll never know, it was torture ! he stormed around talking freely with all and sundry as i skulked feeling like a weirdo in the background, luckily he was so drunk he never really picked up on my social deficencies but its only a matter of time before people do, i cant hide it much longer, im acting more strange and sinking further into depression daily.
 

razzle dazzle rose

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I don't know, I rather like it when users show improvement, and better yet, admit it to themselves and others. When I first got here I remember there being quite a number of threads asking whether Social Phobia could be overcome at all. And with the constant resonating negativity on here, I'm not really surprised there was. Showing the other side of the coin sometimes might not be such a bad idea.

What some see as bragging, the person doing it might consider sharing. Oblivious to what emotional conflict it might cause with other users here.

It is crucial that there be "success" stories on forums such as this one. I belong to another forum for an unrelated disorder and I am actually one of the success stories there. It can be a tricky thing posting about getting better, but I do it because those were the type of stories that gave me hope when I was in a really bad state. Knowing about people that overcame that problem, well, I saw that it was possible for me to overcome it as well: and I am now overcoming it and doing so much better in that area. Some members in that forum have expressed that "success" posts bring them down because they are not doing so well. Reading that always makes me feel weird...almost guilty 'cause I am doing well and they are not. I have limited my posts in that forum, but I think I will be returning again 'cause it is just that important to remind others that it is possible to get better.

We can choose to be negative or positive. Many times the situation is the same, it is just our outlook on it that changes. I find this to be very true in my experience.
 

Clown

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indeed da_illest101 all people talk this way I want to the best job you need to work hard for it etc. I want that too ! I always dreamed of being someone great who people look up to and I was very special ( no ego) funny , good at acting, had a good word vocabulary now its all gone my future looks sad & depressed, what reasons have I to live for , suffer intense hell at work with my gad & sad ( muscle tension horrible !weird thougst constant) and afhter experience the horrible hell ( gad is way worse then sa) waiting for a new game .. is that what I have become...-_-' stop being negative .. have a postive look on life blabla how the **** can I have postive look on life in this situation... I simply can not function ! already for 7 years and you tell me to just look positive... some people are worse then you some low anxiety some high maybe some comorbidity anxiety disorders like I do and some not. someone give me 1 million dollar so I just can lay down on some far far away white blue beach in the middle of nowhere
 
It is crucial that there be "success" stories on forums such as this one. I belong to another forum for an unrelated disorder and I am actually one of the success stories there. It can be a tricky thing posting about getting better, but I do it because those were the type of stories that gave me hope when I was in a really bad state. Knowing about people that overcame that problem, well, I saw that it was possible for me to overcome it as well: and I am now overcoming it and doing so much better in that area. Some members in that forum have expressed that "success" posts bring them down because they are not doing so well. Reading that always makes me feel weird...almost guilty 'cause I am doing well and they are not. I have limited my posts in that forum, but I think I will be returning again 'cause it is just that important to remind others that it is possible to get better.

We can choose to be negative or positive. Many times the situation is the same, it is just our outlook on it that changes. I find this to be very true in my experience.

Yes, exactly. I totally get that it must be annoying at times, though, but let's be honest; it all comes down to ones own discontent from not being able to achieve what others supposedly can/could.

I've been there myself quite a few times, but no matter how much I ''hated'' others for their achievments, eventually the road always lead back to myself. I didn't hate them, I hated me and my short comings. I was unhappy, I didn't go after the things I wanted. Those other people were merely my mental scapegoats because I wasn't ready to accept the blame.

But frankly, annoyed as some might be hearing the success/''brag'' stories, I do think they're very important to be told. While some might have accepted negativity as the neutral state of being, I don't think it's fair to deprive others from the positivity that could possibly turn their lives around. Especially when such a fragile thing as social phobia and fear of judgment is involved.

I think it's great that you shared those success stories you had. And don't feel too guilty, because in the end everyone has to do it for him/herself. You found your way, it's up to them to find their own way. Possibly inspired by yours, but still their own way.
 

Clown

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the title maybe had to be different ( idd blackpuma), I hate that I not achieve my goals and others make it worse by telling how they learning to be a manager while I even can't work feel like a failure
 

Fighter86

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I don't buy into the "everybody is happy" facebook ordeal. It reminds me of facebook.....people on there all smiling with their friends. They have the pictures and font to go with it. "This is me in Mexico. This is me at Dave's party. Haha, I was having so much fun."


They also don't mention all of the arguments they have with their significant other.


What I'm saying is everyone has problems. We're all human. Yes, your problems may be more significant than the people I speak of, but these people aren't as happy as advertised. Anyone can look like they have their life together in a picture, or in a one-night meeting. I've found that when you have to live with someone for months, you start to see their faults and how messed up their life really is, when you originally assumed they had it made. They don't.



Actually, this is true. I have overheard people telling others they delibrately post pictures in facebook so a certain person can see how happy they are or how well their life is going. And observing relationships, they are an awful lot of hard work. Normally, people aren't as happy as they really say they are, watch closer and you start to notice there are squabbles, differences, whereby the reason the only way the relationship is still going is because they are just putting up with each other, not because they are happy as advertised. Things are never what they seem really. 'Happy'people are mostly putting up a front sometimes. If you are really happy, you would be happy being happy, why would you need to advertise you are happy? Doesnt make sense to me.
 

coyote

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The Fox and the Grapes - by Aesop

ONE hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. “Just the things to quench my thirst,” quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “I am sure they are sour.”

Moral:

“IT IS EASY TO DESPISE WHAT YOU CANNOT GET.”
 
The Fox and the Grapes - by Aesop

ONE hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. “Just the things to quench my thirst,” quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “I am sure they are sour.”

Moral:

“IT IS EASY TO DESPISE WHAT YOU CANNOT GET.”


.....so what you're saying is we're all foxes? ::p:
 
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