How can you ever be sure of anything

[KiaKaha]

Does anyone else feel that everything they think they know might actually be wrong? What I mean is, the way you see the world, or whats right or wrong, or how to treat others or behave. Thinking that everything you do is perfectly reasonable, yet somehow it just doesnt seem to work, or you dont get what you want...or even the extreme, something goes completely opposite to how you think its supposed to be...

This probably doesnt make any sense..I am tired, and grumpy... I am going to pull the wings off insects...

 

[Feathers]

No, no, don't pull wings off insects!!

What happened, and what made you think so?

 

[MaliceInWickedland]

No, it actually makes complete sense. I always find myself wondering why things tend to go badly for me even when I feel like I'm doing things right. For example, I'm currently a Senior in high school right now and I was expecting this year to be great compared to my last three years which absolutely sucked but low and behold, this year is turning out to be even worse than the last three years. I barely got any classes I wanted, I have to take seven classes rather than five like most of my classmates, I don't have any friends in my classes, and the friends I currently have are all splitting up over a really stupid fight. I feel like there's something I can do to fix all of this nonsense but then again I feel helpless because I'm not directly involved and if I do get involved I'm afraid that I'll completely lose touch with everyone. Regardless, things happen for a reason and the important thing to remember here is to just stay strong and wait out the storm - it will eventually clear up.

 

[kihira]

Makes perfect sense and has happened to me. I have had to completely change my thinking because I was wrong. Can't remember what it was about at the moment

 

[ilmatross]

I live by murphys law sadly. No matter how good my intentions or how morally righteous i live my life it's been a series of hilarious failures and pain.

Morals are mostly a social construct. You can see this by looking to the east and seeing Muslim nations stone a woman in the head to death for sex out of wedlock and in the us it would be absolutely unacceptable.

Almost everything in life is subjective.

 

[Feathers]

Does anyone else feel that everything they think they know might actually be wrong? What I mean is, the way you see the world, or whats right or wrong, or how to treat others or behave. Thinking that everything you do is perfectly reasonable, yet somehow it just doesnt seem to work, or you dont get what you want...or even the extreme, something goes completely opposite to how you think its supposed to be...

I think the world keeps changing, and as it changes, the maps we had (stuff we learnt from our families or previous experiences) may become obsolete and we may need to draw in changes.. Sometimes the changes may be big, completely new maps need to be redrawn, sometimes only minor things need to be added in...
(I read this in a book, found it quite helpful though...)

That's why it's important to learn from experience and then sort of adjust or change behavior if needed...

 

[KiaKaha]

Hmmm... yeah. It kinda blows...its very disheartening to invest so much time into something, planning it, doing everything that is deemed necessary for whatever it is to work out..and then failing miserably...or being dissapointed with the result. I just wish I could get along with people better...at least you have some friends I like your positive attitude about your situation tho....I have been struggling with staying strong myself.

Ok feathers, I wont pull off the wings of insects...but only because you asked me to

 

[Acegame]

I strongly have these feelings lately. There is doubt in my mind about everything. Every day i feel different about my own principals, thoughts and actions. I think that we can act the way we want, but we base those actions on the way we stand in life (principals, visions, etc). But since I haven't got a single clue what i stand for lately, so i dont know how to act. Does that make any sense?

 

[HopelessStranger]

Right and wrong comes from the soul. Think deep and far inside and you'll see whats right and wrong. Of course everyone has a different soul that's why life is such a mess. We as human question every single thing. I believe if you think something is right with full agreement with yourself then that is the right thing. Sometimes that is a mistake but that's what makes us human. So what is truly right and wrong? No one can answer that but yourself because you make what's right and what's wrong not anyone else.

 

[Illusions]

I live by murphys law sadly. No matter how good my intentions or how morally righteous i live my life it's been a series of hilarious failures and pain.

That sounds like me. Somehow though I try my hardest to be a good person, things just don't fall into place for me. I don't get it, what exactly am I doing wrong?

 

[BlackPuma]

I've universally accepted that there is no right or wrong, no true or false. I've accepted that the human take on reality is by definition an illusion designed to augment some kind of understanding for the beyond comprehensibly complicated world that surrounds us.

The universe only knows facts (natural laws and material properties), only living things seek for a deeper understanding. Which is fine, but it's best to understand that whatever take on reality you have, that it is always subject to change.

I might be wrong, but it helps me alter my reality when necessary.

 

[Feathers]

Ok feathers, I wont pull off the wings of insects...but only because you asked me to

Ohh, I'm so glad!!

As for investing time, I'm sure you've learnt A LOT already... And since so much time has been invested, maybe just finish it as supposed to and then you don't have to see those people again anyway? If you have any sorts of people skills at all, you will have way advantage in getting a job over them anyway!!
Maybe they are all secretly jealous?

There have been places where I didn't have friends and only got them later on or elsewhere... Sometimes it happens when you stop trying.. And maybe focus on other things or other people.. Or you meet someone along the way, after you've walked half the path already..

 

[Feathers]

I live by murphys law sadly. No matter how good my intentions or how morally righteous i live my life it's been a series of hilarious failures and pain.

Ilmatross, if I remember it right, you have a drug problem!! That's surely not helping!! So if you want to improve your life, I think you need to start there first...

 

[ilmatross]

Ilmatross, if I remember it right, you have a drug problem!! That's surely not helping!! So if you want to improve your life, I think you need to start there first...

You are correct

I'm on pain medication for varying diseases so It's not like I'll ever be able to be completely off them.

My addictions going to be a lot harder to fight then someone who does it just for fun.

I'm starting with quitting cigarettes. I've gone through 2 packs of gum already trying to keep myself busy ::

 

[Feathers]

That sounds like me. Somehow though I try my hardest to be a good person, things just don't fall into place for me. I don't get it, what exactly am I doing wrong?

Hm, if you try your hardest, it may be you might be trying too hard? Sometimes things happen more easily if you sort of relax and have faith it will work out for the best, while of course you do your own part..

Some people who also have a really good character can sometimes have a problem with assertiveness or boundaries, and some people can take advantage of that. So in that case it may be good to work on assertiveness and boundaries and such... Self-respect is important too..

It's difficult to tell more without knowing any details..

 

[Feathers]

You are correct

I'm on pain medication for varying diseases so It's not like I'll ever be able to be completely off them.

My addictions going to be a lot harder to fight then someone who does it just for fun.

I'm starting with quitting cigarettes. I've gone through 2 packs of gum already trying to keep myself busy ::

Hm, I'd say never say never..

My Dad was told he'd have to live with pain for the rest of his life and to just get on with it, and was prescribed pain-killers and not much else.
He's mostly pain-free now in completely natural ways, changed nutrition and lifestyle (more exercise), his doc was amazed.
He only gets some pain back if he eats too much of what he shouldn't (around holidays and such.)

It may be difficult to say without knowing your particular diseases, lots of things these days can be cured, if you only dig deeper than the 'official' medicine..

YAY for quitting smoking!! Keeping fingers crossed!!
It may also be good to focus on doing interesting things, so you forget about you-know-what...

 

[ilmatross]

Hm, I'd say never say never..

My Dad was told he'd have to live with pain for the rest of his life and to just get on with it, and was prescribed pain-killers and not much else.
He's mostly pain-free now in completely natural ways, changed nutrition and lifestyle (more exercise), his doc was amazed.
He only gets some pain back if he eats too much of what he shouldn't (around holidays and such.)

It may be difficult to say without knowing your particular diseases, lots of things these days can be cured, if you only dig deeper than the 'official' medicine..

YAY for quitting smoking!! Keeping fingers crossed!!
It may also be good to focus on doing interesting things, so you forget about you-know-what...

Thank you for the encouragement I'll be so glad once I'm free of these things. nasty buggers. ::

I'll look into homeopathic / natural medicine alternatives when I get the chance. The pain is so bad It almost seems impossible that something non-narcotic could take it away but if it exists I sure as hell want to give it a shot. That'd be my ticket off this ride.

 

[NathanielWingatePeaslee]

I've universally accepted that there is no right or wrong, no true or false. I've accepted that the human take on reality is by definition an illusion designed to augment some kind of understanding for the beyond comprehensibly complicated world that surrounds us.

The universe only knows facts (natural laws and material properties), only living things seek for a deeper understanding. Which is fine, but it's best to understand that whatever take on reality you have, that it is always subject to change.

I might be wrong, but it helps me alter my reality when necessary.

No, sounds like you're pretty much right.

Does anyone else feel that everything they think they know might actually be wrong? What I mean is, the way you see the world, or whats right or wrong, or how to treat others or behave. Thinking that everything you do is perfectly reasonable, yet somehow it just doesnt seem to work, or you dont get what you want...or even the extreme, something goes completely opposite to how you think its supposed to be...

This probably doesnt make any sense..I am tired, and grumpy... I am going to pull the wings off insects...

Yes. It's because of the nature of reality, and our place in it as clueless beings who are ill equipped to process what's around us.

Every now and then, you start to realize that a lot of what and even how you think just isn't right. You realize you've been making assumptions all along that were totally off. This can lead to a clearer understanding of things. It can even lead to you having an easier time and being happier.

All is to be doubted.

 

[Feathers]

Thank you for the encouragement I'll be so glad once I'm free of these things. nasty buggers. ::

I'll look into homeopathic / natural medicine alternatives when I get the chance. The pain is so bad It almost seems impossible that something non-narcotic could take it away but if it exists I sure as hell want to give it a shot. That'd be my ticket off this ride.

Ilmatross, love your attitude!! It's great you're willing to reserach and do this!

You can PM me what you have and I'll tell you if I heard of anyone curing it naturally...
It's good that you research these things yourself, because that's how you learn best... Just google what you have + nutrition or natural ways of healing or such... There's a lot of stuff online.. (Of course it's good to be careful and double-check or triple-check things.. and ideally talk to your doctor and/or pharmacist or nutricionist then too..)

I'm not so sure about homeopatic things, some people seem to have gotten help from that too, I fully believe in the power of nutrition and lifestyle changes/exercise and such, because I've seen it happen.. I've also experienced it personally.. I've heard of people curing even leukemia and cancer, you have to be really persistent and stick with it.. explore your options..

 

[Dronee]

I live by murphys law sadly. No matter how good my intentions or how morally righteous i live my life it's been a series of hilarious failures and pain.

Morals are mostly a social construct. You can see this by looking to the east and seeing Muslim nations stone a woman in the head to death for sex out of wedlock and in the us it would be absolutely unacceptable.

Almost everything in life is subjective.

Not really... Morals are an extension of a certain kind of mathematics. I've actually studied this in Game Theory when I was still an undergraduate. It's fascinating but also depressing in a way because it explains so much... As far as I can tell, the 'good' is extremely difficult because all it takes is some 'bad' to offset a lot of good. At least that's what I've seen in that module.

And on Muslims, IIRC, the law there calls for the death of a rapist as well as the death of a man who has sex out of wedlock as well, not just the woman. There's things in the US that's utterly unacceptable to Muslims as well... I do agree though that sometimes the way things are done in the Middle East are counterintuitive and occassionally downright senseless... But then again, many of these 'Muslim nations' are actually going against their religion...

Eg: From the Muslim Hadeeths, (rough translation): "Send your daughters to school (revolutionary for its times, common now)... seek knowledge even if you need to go to China (to do so)... etc"

Yet, many Muslims now actively bar their daughters from school and claim that this action is done for religious reasons...

And to OP: Don't pull the wings off the insect!